On Thu, Aug 09, 2012 at 01:08:42PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes:
Do you want to tell me (and them) that we shouldn't be editing
.scm files in lilypond?
This is not satisfactorily solved by first writing everything and
running an indenter
On Wed, Aug 08, 2012 at 12:27:40PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote:
We're getting to the time where the Grand Regression Test Checking
(TM) project
(http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/contributor/grand-regression-test-checking
) has got enough results to allow us to use it to fix poor
On Wed, Aug 08, 2012 at 09:59:03AM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote:
I've been looking at how the regression test comparison works. The
first thing I find is that we have 2 effectively duplicate, but
different, pages on running regtest comparisons:
On Wed, Aug 08, 2012 at 02:22:48PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote:
- Original Message - From: Graham Percival
gra...@percival-music.ca
To: Phil Holmes em...@philholmes.net
I'm content to propose changes myself. But I really don't think 200
patches on Rietveld and 200 issues are the way
On Wed, Aug 08, 2012 at 09:17:38PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
Phil Holmes em...@philholmes.net writes:
Absolutely appreciate this comment. However, the theory of the
regtests is that by looking at the description and the image, you can
tell whether the regtest has been passed. No-one
On Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 06:57:17PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote:
Il giorno sab, 04/08/2012 alle 16.44 +0100, Phil Holmes ha scritto:
FWIW it also failed on the lines
$LILYPOND_GIT/configure
for reasons I don't understand, but must be something to do with bash.
Replacing the variable
On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 01:12:19PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote:
or, if this appears to be too hackish, we could keep the per-directory
build system layout for GNU Make, and try such a tree-global build
layout with a build tool designed for this, namely Omake:
On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 08:36:05AM +0100, Ramana Kumar wrote:
In this message on users
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2012-08/msg00094.html
Mike mentioned the possibility of generating cache files to speed up
recompilation. He also said working out the details might take
On Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 12:02:59AM +0200, m...@mikesolomon.org wrote:
On 6 août 2012, at 23:23, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote:
I'd suggest an alternate method: the cache needs to contain:
1. the bar numbers of page breaks for the last _full_
compilation of file X
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 06:36:26PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote:
I raised this because I signed to mention this support whenever as
necessary, so I thought a mention on the website would be fine.
That sounds good.
Perhaps we should rename the current sponsoring page to
something else
On Fri, Aug 03, 2012 at 11:36:53AM +, Valentin Villenave wrote:
PS. Graham, is that enough for you? :-)
I don't see a patch in staging which announces this on
lilypond.org, so... no?
- Graham
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On Fri, Aug 03, 2012 at 07:42:34PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote:
Il giorno mer, 01/08/2012 alle 20.51 +0100, Graham Percival ha scritto:
I was particularly thinking of the download links and links to
docs (on both the Downloads page and the Development page). That
needs to do build number
Unchanged from last week's proposal; no objections; this is now
the policy. All hail Dictator Kastrup!
http://lilypond.org/~graham/gop/gop_3.html
** Summary
Let’s appoint David Kastrup as the “benevolent dictator” of the
stable/2.16 git branch.
*** Motivation
(mostly copied from an email by
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 12:31:55PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
At the time the 2.16 branch will be cut, the versioning for the unstable
branch will need to advance to 2.17 in order to maintain an ordered
relation between version numbers and LilyPond language.
Do you mean 2.16 instead of 2.17
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 02:37:58PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes:
What versioning should I be using for the release
candidates? Numerically, one has the options to start with
2.15.95
why not 2.15.42 ?
Because the 2.16 branch
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 03:21:34PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes:
If it is non-operative, it should be either made operative or removed.
There is no point dragging it along as purely dead weight we should not
be using.
Sure, patches
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 04:15:34PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote:
I'm sometimes slow to react (up to one week for making a patch), but I'm
willing to help with version number management in the build system if
this definitely appears to be the route to go with.
Regardless of the question of
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 06:36:14PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote:
Il giorno mer, 01/08/2012 alle 15.52 +0100, Graham Percival ha scritto:
Regardless of the question of having a tuple of four values, it
would be nice to support build numbers, i.e. 2.15.43-2:
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 08:10:26PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote:
Il giorno mer, 01/08/2012 alle 18.08 +0100, Graham Percival ha scritto:
The first step is to make it
work in make website, which is infinitely easier than trying
to do anything in GUB. This is a relatively easy thing
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 11:26:12AM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote:
Graham Percival wrote Monday, July 30, 2012 7:11 PM
\version 2.16.0
\score {
...
\midi {}
}
Currently this code produces no pdf and, if \layout {} is
added, no titles.
Was this an intentional suggestion
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 02:14:17PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
And if you think this is purely hypothetical, check out
Documentation/snippets/incipit.ly.
David, thank you for identifying a specific problematic example.
There are exceptions to every rule. But if you are calling for an
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 03:47:42PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes:
I think this is a bit too far. Phil is trying to solve a
long-standing *extremely* annoying bug for documentation writers
which has not attracted much attention from real
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 04:13:20PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote:
- Original Message - From: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org
So _how_ are you trying to accommodate? Increase indent until the
instrument name fits wholly in the text width? Let it stick out
somewhat? How much?
Increase the
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 11:22:25AM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote:
So I open collated-files.html, to find that there are no images to
eyeball. The HTML expects PNG files, but very few are created (in
particular, the one I want...).
collated-files.html only shows the differences, not the actual
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 05:51:17PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote:
All that said, I'd like to advertise that this server is provided by
http://www.mshparisnord.fr on lilypond.org in addition to the home page
of the server http://194.254.171.80. The Thanks pages on the former
website and docs no
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 05:31:17PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote:
- Original Message - From: Graham Percival
gra...@percival-music.ca
collated-files.html only shows the differences, not the actual
files. Furthermore, these differences are calculated based on the
.eps or something like
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 01:12:44PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes:
Could I have some examples? I just don't get this word
business. Is there any syntax which was previously
(theoretically) supported, which this patch breaks?
Here is one
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 08:50:01AM +0200, Frédéric Bron wrote:
Who can review my patch?
http://codereview.appspot.com/6434048
I see that John has just added it to the tracker:
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2704
so it will now make its way onto our countdown.
- Graham
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 03:48:48PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes:
Does this affect
{
\tempo 4. = 120
c2 d
%\tempo Adagio 4. = 43.5
\tempo Adagio 4. = 43
e4. d8 c2
}
?
No.
(aside: do we want to disallow all
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 03:50:18PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
gra...@percival-music.ca writes:
LGTM, and I think it can be pushed to staging right now.
Without even asking test-patchy?
Sorry, of course we should ask test-patchy. I meant after that --
i.e. in this case I think we can
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 01:48:15PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote:
From: John Mandereau john.mander...@gmail.com
2012/7/30 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
Here is what I see as the required steps:
-snip steps-
At this point of time, it becomes feasible to sensibly test one setup
against the other
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 02:43:46PM +, d...@gnu.org wrote:
Incorrect title (from book)
Correct title (from bookpart)
and similar. That way, it is easier to see whether the results are as
expected.
sure, that sounds good.
- Graham
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On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 12:56:12PM -0300, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 6:09 AM, Graham Percival
gra...@percival-music.ca wrote:
Let’s decide whether to try to stabilize the syntax or not. What
type of project do we want LilyPond to be? What kinds of
guarantees
There seems to be fairly broad support for _some_ form of
standardization. Here's an update of the proposal along those
lines, along with brief responses to common concerns, in order to
let people just joining the discussion to skip the past 50 emails.
Better formatting here:
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:44:28PM +0100, Bernard Hurley wrote:
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:14:37PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote:
- Original Message - From: gra...@percival-music.ca
lily/output-def.cc:38: Real long_name_len = 0.0;
could these be class member variables instead of global
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 10:15:10PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
Forwarding this from the lilypond-auto list since this review concerns
an important syntax change. GLISS material, in a manner. Consider it a
proposal for word and command syntax across _all_ lexer modes.
What's a lexer mode ?
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 08:54:47AM +0100, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote:
On 26/07/12 19:19, Graham Percival wrote:
I should add some more context. I've just remembered that we have
a tutorial (don't ask me how I forgot), and that covers pretty
much what I was thinking about really simple
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 02:32:42AM +, Keith OHara wrote:
Phil Holmes email at philholmes.net writes:
So it would be easy to add something to the
indent here to take account of intrument names.
The InstrumentName spanners can change when an instrument changes, or
whenever the user
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 10:40:30PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
Location is Waltrop near Dortmund in Germany, date is August 24th to
28th. Here is the web site, and the agenda for starters.
URL:http://news.lilynet.net/?LilyPond-meeting-in-Waltrop
To get the ball rolling, I'm flying in to
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 09:02:38AM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote:
Graham Percival wrote Tuesday, July 24, 2012 10:09 AM
Let’s decide whether to try to stabilize the syntax or not.
We /should/ try to stabilize the syntax, but trying to do this
at exactly the time when David is straightening
Mostly unchanged from last week's proposal; I think we're pretty
much decided on this, but we'll still have another week for final
objections.
http://lilypond.org/~graham/gop/gop_3.html
** Summary
Let’s appoint David Kastrup as the “benevolent dictator” of the
stable/2.16 git branch.
***
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 06:31:50PM +0100, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote:
Sounds to me like that was what Graham proposed in the first place.
No, Graham proposed freezing a subset of _Lilypond syntax_. I'm
proposing that before doing any such thing it's important to look at
Lilypond's
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 07:03:11PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
It's much simpler than that. Expressions are greedy: what can become
a part of them, will.
...
yuck?
\displayMusic c4-3
is existing syntax. Long-existing syntax. A total nuisance to support.
But it is not like there is much
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 08:41:36PM +, lilyp...@googlecode.com wrote:
Hm. Can't find one there, but there is one in input.itely;
the very next example as it happens. This uses a8landscape,
but that is not tall enough for Eluze's example. And a8 is
not wide enough. a7 is ok, but
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 10:04:12AM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote:
- Original Message - From: Frédéric Bron
frederic.b...@m4x.org
got this message:
WARNING: could not change issue labels;
please email lilypond-devel with the issue number: 2401
Frédéric
Looks like it has successfully
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 12:33:30PM +0200, Francisco Vila wrote:
Speaking of, another stupid idea I once had, was to establish big
ranges of music Lily can do, for example All J.S.Bach and try to
find counter-examples that break this set. If we find them, _that_
would be a good source of ideas
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 04:58:57AM +, Keith OHara wrote:
Graham Percival graham at percival-music.ca writes:
2. Define a subset of input as being stable for the 3.x branch.
We add regression tests for that subset of notation and
forbid running convert-ly on those files
This summer hasn't been going as I'd hoped -- heh, who am I
kidding, this whole year hasn't been going as I'd hoped. Anyway,
we seem to have radically different concepts of what input
stabilization might mean, or even if it's a good idea worth
doing.
Hopefully we can settle those questions now.
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 11:00:30AM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote:
Surely an alternative is to have an archive of stable version
installations?
We have that already:
http://lilypond.org/old-downloads.html
We could advise users who require that their work
will compile into the future to ensure it
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 05:26:01PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote:
I'd be happy to push this, but would like a little advice. If I
go to Rietveld and download the raw patch set, it comes without
proper email addresses and formatting. This means to push stuff
from Rietveld, I have to git apply the
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 06:50:52PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
We don't commit anything other than patches. That's redundant. But
Issue 2679: Function for overriding broken spanners
would make it easier to find the corresponding issue in case one needs
to revisit the commit at one point
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 10:26:14AM +0200, John Mandereau wrote:
Fine. As for the name of the server, it's called srv-lilypond in MSH
Paris Nord, but it's all right to use a different name on the internet,
what do you think of
tadpole.lilynet.net
I think tadpole. is nicer than toadunderthe.
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 12:07:29PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes:
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 10:39:33AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
cranks out a list of 44 Invalid issues. According to the stated
policy, those should be marked Verified
Sorry, our Frog Meister should be helping you with this. I've
cc'd him. If you are familiar with various linux utilities, you
could follow the instructions here
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/contributor/summary-for-experienced-developers
otherwise just wait and hope that somebody
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 06:42:15PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote:
and we'd need A and DNS records for something like
builder.lilypond.org or builder.lilynet.net to make the machine
reachable more easily than just 194.254.171.80.
I recommend lilynet.net.
- Graham
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 09:45:48PM +0200, Frédéric Bron wrote:
If you are familiar with various linux utilities, you
could follow the instructions here
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/contributor/summary-for-experienced-developers
Do you mean that with git-cl, I could submit a
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 03:48:25PM +, philehol...@googlemail.com wrote:
On 2012/07/20 09:45:10, dak wrote:
Ah ok, I was not aware that this was a doc-build only patch, so it
seems
reasonably safe to go ahead here.
Do we need to update GUB with the lilypond-map?
Short answer is I don't
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 05:41:05PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote:
If someone can let me know how I should update my GUB installation,
I'll run a build on it as soon as I've tried the update. I think
this would work best with this patch on a branch on git so I can
build GUB from that branch.
If
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 10:12:11PM -0700, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 9:53 PM, Graham Percival
gra...@percival-music.ca wrote:
Phil did this a few times. I'll let him sort it out with Colin
was Phil successful?
yes, although upon further recollection I think he only
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 07:45:58PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote:
- Original Message - From: Ian Hulin i...@hulin.org.uk
To: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net
Cc: lilypond-devel@gnu.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: Volta enhancements tranche 1 (issue 6398055)
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 11:01:03AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
We can still decide on what we want to see in our source code. Matching
that to the realities of an existing Texinfo implementation is then a
matter of changing macros.
Texinfo does not allow us to sort
abc
\bcd
cde
instead
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 12:24:06PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
Again: I don't see that Texinfo behavior precludes us from writing
consistent input. Mapping this input to current Texinfo behavior is a
matter of redefining a macro then.
I don't see how this can be done with a macro, but I'm
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 12:55:41PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes:
to remove any backslash from the sort-order but still print the
backslash?
We have @funindex, our own macro. If we use this (or something else)
consistently without backslash
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 11:35:04AM +0200, Marc Hohl wrote:
I tried to follow the instructions on
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/contributor/working-with-remote-branches
Unfortunately that page is not really maintained, and so it may
contain incorrect information. Our best page for
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 01:58:54PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
John Mandereau john.mander...@gmail.com writes:
Sorry for bearing with my move to a more disciplined developer from a
hybrid of pyromaniac and fireman of the build system I used to be :-P
It's not really trivial to get into
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 03:08:55PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote:
Note that in the case you change a single or a couple of snippets in
Documentation/snippets/new and don't want to update everything by
downloading and unpacking a tarball from LSR website, there are
currently contradictory
Much nicer formatting in the online html:
http://lilypond.org/~graham/gop/gop_2.html
*** Summary
LilyPond has been a member of the GNU project for longer than I’ve
been involved (2001), but there’s a few policies for which we
aren’t in full compliance. We should remedy this.
*** Not optional
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 07:45:27PM +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote:
for some time we've been running low on Google Tracker quota for
attachments.
Now i've read their documentation and the FAQ says If you hit these
limits, please contact us via our Google Group or email
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 10:39:33AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
Then we need to change the descriptions in the tracker.
Sure! Just go find the source that's running code.google.com,
make a patch, submit it to google, and the next time they update
their code (maybe once every few months?) we'll
Hi,
Mike Solomon, our Frog Meister, should have responded to help
you to submit the patch in our desired manner. I've cc'd him on
this email.
- Graham
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 01:07:34AM +0200, Frédéric Bron wrote:
I transfer this email to bug-lilypond because I got no answer on
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:50:07AM +0200, Federico Bruni wrote:
BTW, as we have one critical bug, no release will happen on Wednesday?
Or it's up to David?
It will take over two weeks for GOP 2-2b stable 2.16 releases to
be accepted. Until then, we continue as normal.
- Graham
http://lilypond.org/~graham/gop/gop_3.html
*** Summary
Let’s appoint David Kastrup as the “benevolent dictator” of the
stable/2.16 git branch.
*** Motivation
(mostly copied from an email by David)
Releasing a stable release brings progress to LilyPond users.
LilyPond users are the most
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 02:02:31AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
One really ugly problem is interpreting things like 4.. Looks like a
duration, but then we have
input/regression/dynamics-broken-hairpin.ly: line-width = 4.\cm
I am against making a change like this outwith[1] of GLISS. It
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 12:37:15AM +, john.mander...@gmail.com wrote:
configure.in:66: _NCSB_SOURCE_FILES_=
On 2012/07/15 00:21:16, Graham Percival wrote:
what's the convention for leading _ in names? I havent' encountered
this
before.
It was just my lack of imagination for a variable
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 02:49:21PM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote:
Jean-Charles Malahieude wrote Saturday, July 14, 2012 1:29 PM
I think that most of these bad presentations are due to the fact that
proofreading is done with the HTML version. We should then advocate
that the final draft
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 09:23:00AM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote:
My suggestion - unless there are _real_ problems with my patch (and
there aren't) let's start focussing on other shitty bits of
documentation now that I've fixed this shitty element of the NR.
...
ok. By my working rule (he who does
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 08:01:52AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes:
Sorry, I should have specified absolutely no way to get ---
without any mixing of content and layout commands. I think we
should minimize any layout-specific commands in our
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 11:07:57AM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote:
Would I be right in saying that in scheme files (a) (define lines
should always be left-justified (no space before) and (b) indents
should always be 2 spaces and never tabs?
Unfortunately not. The current situation for scheme is:
-
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 09:50:58PM +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote:
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 5:42 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
[ lots of travel info ]
Thanks for tips! I'm not totally sure what my route will be, but i'll
be glad if there'll be a chance to finish the journey in company
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 06:23:57PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote:
- Original Message - From: Trevor Daniels
t.dani...@treda.co.uk
a) a release-meister with responsibility to take all decisions.
That's what Han-Wen used to do, I believe. It worked
quite well, although Graham will have
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 12:17:40AM +0200, Thomas Morley wrote:
2012/7/13 Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net:
(...)
You can absolutely use different branches with lilydev. It's only more
difficult with lilygit. If you need help with creating and switching to
other branches, please shout.
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 05:27:57PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
And, above all, won't require the Release Manager to be an expert
programmer.
Or communicator. Or look at recent issue reports more thoroughly than
counting Critical labels to
I will officially introduce this next Tuesday, but since it's now
a hot topic, let's have an extra round of discussion and fixing
before then.
http://lilypond.org/~graham/gop/gop_3.html
*** Summary
Let’s appoint David Kastrup as the “benevolent dictator” of the
stable/2.16 git branch.
***
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 05:48:48PM +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote:
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 10:55 PM, Graham Percival
gra...@percival-music.ca wrote:
To avoid slowing down programming to a crawl, I figure that we’ll
identify some subset of these regtests and have a separate make
regtests-quick
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 02:07:39AM +0200, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
It is very unfortunate that we can't upgrade to the current
texinfo.tex file; it contains a lot of improvements, including a very
flexible URL command.
Why can't we do this? Do we just have to many custom hacks in our
existing
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:45:24PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes:
Hmm. So there's absolutely no way to get
--- linewidth --
from some kind of
emergency-stretch-tweak
--- linewidth --
? that's a shame
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 09:44:41AM -0500, Jeremiah Benham wrote:
I want to know if I could have write access to lilyponds git. Would
I need an account on the server? Do I submit my ssh key somewhere?
https://github.com/gperciva/gub
I want to push my changes into a branch called denemo. I plan
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 03:50:21PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 1:56 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes:
It should wrap between the words the file and the filename.
+1
It
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 09:45:49PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes:
Sure. So we're asking if TeX can be tweaked to consider
additional solutions. (namely, always add a line-break before
anything with an overfull hbox, regardless of what
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:28:35PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
More like
--- linewidth --
Thisisaparagraph
which has a really long
word and has benefitted
from some kind of
emergency-stretch-tweak
which isn't IMO exactly what
we want in
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:32:28PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
Phil Holmes em...@philholmes.net writes:
David doesn't like @* so I avoided it. I'll use @*
@* is awful. It cuts the current line _short_ unconditionally which
means that we may get abysmally bad breaks when the paragraph
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 05:18:26PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote:
Could a docs person have a look at
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Snippet?id=825
and let me know if you think there's far too many linebreaks? Our
general rule is one bar per line?
Yes, and yes. If there's a special reason to
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 01:21:38PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
I mean, we have too few categories for regressions. I can see the
following:
-snip-
My personal opinion is that
My personal opinion is that we should not discuss major policy
changes in the middle of a thread about dots and staff
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 09:06:10PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes:
My personal opinion is that we should not discuss major policy
changes in the middle of a thread about dots and staff sizes.
It was in the course of changing the status
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:51:11PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes:
I'll only address meta-discussion points here.
What about the next one? Phil has been learning how to do it, and I
certainly won't call *him* a trained monkey... but his
On Thu, Jul 05, 2012 at 10:11:09AM -0300, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Graham Percival
gra...@percival-music.ca wrote:
Commercial services are ok, but non-Free software is not. The GNU
coding standards are quite clear on this:
A GNU program should
On Thu, Jul 05, 2012 at 03:57:00PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes:
A GNU program should not recommend, promote, or grant legitimacy
to the use of any non-free program. Proprietary software is a
social and ethical problem, and our aim
On Wed, Jul 04, 2012 at 02:55:19PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote:
- Original Message - From: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org
To: lilypond-devel@gnu.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: Help with git rebase recovery, please
You already got one answer that is more
On Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 05:44:42PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes:
Namely, git-cl first tries importing readline unconditionally, then it
tries importing it again conditionally.
That does not look all too clever. Perhaps removing the unconditional
On Wed, Jul 04, 2012 at 11:29:28AM +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote:
Do we know about http://tunefl.com ?
Also, should we be mentioning commercial services like scorio.com
on our website?
Commercial services are ok, but non-Free software is not. The GNU
coding standards are quite clear on
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