Re: What music font packaging/selection experience do we want?

2023-04-21 Thread Jean Abou Samra
> Le 21 avr. 2023 à 15:18, Jean Abou Samra a écrit : > > The idea is that rather than putting all the .otf file in one directory, you > make one subdirectory per font. Cf. the bit about recursive searching. By the way, this is what we’re heading toward with SMuFL anyway. It doesn’t

Re: What music font packaging/selection experience do we want?

2023-04-21 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Now to the second approach, which I prefer. [...] Me too. All your suggestions are sound, thanks. Werner

Re: What music font packaging/selection experience do we want?

2023-04-21 Thread Jean Abou Samra
 > Le 21 avr. 2023 à 14:48, Wols Lists a écrit : > Just to add to bikeshed colours, please DON'T call it "stylesheet". Call it > the same name as the font, or something like that. > If I've got a bunch of custom fonts I use, I just want to dump them in a > directory and forget about them. If

Re: What music font packaging/selection experience do we want?

2023-04-21 Thread Wols Lists
On 21/04/2023 12:03, Kieren MacMillan wrote: If, next to the .otf font file, a file called stylesheet.ily (or another bikeshed color) is found, it is read and defines the style parameters. Because we want to be able to apply it both globally and locally to one score/bookpart/book, we take it

Re: What music font packaging/selection experience do we want?

2023-04-21 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le vendredi 21 avril 2023 à 07:03 -0400, Kieren MacMillan a écrit : > How modular and adaptable will that be? In a robust stylesheet system, there > would be “inheritance”, “cascading”, etc., rather than the “include and > overwrite” that happens with [ad-hoc] stylesheets now. "Inheritance" is

Re: What music font packaging/selection experience do we want?

2023-04-21 Thread Kieren MacMillan
alternative music fonts. As someone who (a) uses alternative music fonts for almost everything and (b) upgrades often, this is a welcome MR. Thank you! > Now, from the user point of view, the question is how we want to organize the > UX of using an alternative music font: > • Downlo

What music font packaging/selection experience do we want?

2023-04-21 Thread Jean Abou Samra
desirable to have that in the medium term and I think it makes sense to keep it in mind for designing this — at least, to avoid making changes that will complicate it. Now, from the user point of view, the question is how we want to organize the UX of using an alternative music font: 1. Download

Re: music-font-encodings option

2023-04-03 Thread Jean Abou Samra
> Le 3 avr. 2023 à 15:34, Werner LEMBERG a écrit : > > Yes. There is no equivalent to `glyphshow` in PDF. For some comments > on that see, for example, > > https://bugs.ghostscript.com/show_bug.cgi?id=698305#c10 > https://bugs.ghostscript.com/show_bug.cgi?id=695259 OK, thanks. > BTW,

Re: music-font-encodings option

2023-04-03 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>>> Essentially, this option switches between the `show` and `glyphshow` >>> PostScript operators to access Emmentaler glyphs. The former is >>> considered the 'standard' method for accessing glyphs in a PS file >>> (according to the GS developers); however, it needs properly set up >>> encoding

Re: music-font-encodings option

2023-04-03 Thread David Kastrup
Jean Abou Samra writes: > Le dimanche 02 avril 2023 à 18:20 +, Werner LEMBERG a écrit : >> Essentially, this option switches between the `show` and `glyphshow` >> PostScript operators to access Emmentaler glyphs. The former is >> considered the 'standard' method for accessing glyphs in a PS

Re: music-font-encodings option

2023-04-03 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le dimanche 02 avril 2023 à 18:20 +, Werner LEMBERG a écrit : > Essentially, this option switches between the `show` and `glyphshow` > PostScript operators to access Emmentaler glyphs. The former is > considered the 'standard' method for accessing glyphs in a PS file > (according to the GS

Re: music-font-encodings option

2023-04-02 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Would anyone be able to explain me what the purpose of the > music-font-encodings option is? I'm trying to understand how the > generation of the Emmentaler font works. I see that there is quite > a bit of infrastructure for this option, which is used in > `--pspdfopt`, but

music-font-encodings option

2023-04-01 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Hi, Would anyone be able to explain me what the purpose of the music-font-encodings option is? I'm trying to understand how the generation of the Emmentaler font works. I see that there is quite a bit of infrastructure for this option, which is used in `--pspdfopt`, but it's not clear to me

Re: Text and music font handling

2014-08-01 Thread Alexander Kobel
to contact me and I'll do what is necessary. Or take the offer by other friendly helpers. Regarding the music font selection: My uneasy feeling about breakinge existing code is surely invalid because convert-ly will handle that easily. That's good to hear. I'm not familiar enough with convert-ly

Re: Next step for easier custom music font switching

2014-07-23 Thread Alexander Kobel
was threefold: a) (ACHIEVED.) I needed the feature, right now. Well, turned out I didn't, but I thought I do. b) (ACHIEVED.) I wanted to have a draft ready before some interface for the music font changing is settled, because we might want to do both in one shot. c) (TODO) I hoped for a small

Re: Next step for easier custom music font switching

2014-07-23 Thread Alexander Kobel
On 07/24/2014 01:08 AM, Alexander Kobel wrote: https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=4014 ? On the other hand, I actually don't know if it is correct when I say: the Pango description string for the font, which is passed as-is to the Pango interface. Is this Pango? Is it

Re: Next step for easier custom music font switching

2014-07-23 Thread James
for the announcement of the patch in its current shape was threefold: a) (ACHIEVED.) I needed the feature, right now. Well, turned out I didn't, but I thought I do. b) (ACHIEVED.) I wanted to have a draft ready before some interface for the music font changing is settled, because we might want to do both

Re: Next step for easier custom music font switching

2014-07-21 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, 2014-07-20 16:43 GMT+02:00 Abraham Lee tisi...@gmail.com: On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 3:47 AM, Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com wrote: A thought: i'm missing the possibility to set the weight of the music font used by LilyPond for a particular score. In other words: let's say i have

Re: Next step for easier custom music font switching

2014-07-21 Thread Alexander Kobel
* ; music font *gonville* ; piano brace font FreeSerif FreeSans Inconsolata (/ staff-height pt 20))) } I agree with David's comment here. Btw, just to make sure: have you seen https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=4014 ? Hi all, and Janek: thanks

Re: Next step for easier custom music font switching

2014-07-21 Thread James
(make-pango-font-tree *lilyjazz* ; music font *gonville* ; piano brace font FreeSerif FreeSans Inconsolata (/ staff-height pt 20))) } I agree with David's comment here. Btw, just to make sure: have you seen https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues

Re: Next step for easier custom music font switching

2014-07-21 Thread Urs Liska
and piano-brace fonts are put at the first) \paper { #(define fonts (make-pango-font-tree *lilyjazz* ; music font *gonville* ; piano brace font FreeSerif FreeSans Inconsolata (/ staff-height pt 20))) } I agree with David's comment here. Btw, just to make

Re: Next step for easier custom music font switching

2014-07-20 Thread Janek Warchoł
the change. - Question 1: *Should the new syntax be something like this?* (where the music and piano-brace fonts are put at the first) \paper { #(define fonts (make-pango-font-tree *lilyjazz* ; music font *gonville* ; piano brace font FreeSerif FreeSans

Re: [SPAM] Re: Next step for easier custom music font switching

2014-07-20 Thread Urs Liska
Am 20.07.2014 11:47, schrieb Janek Warchoł: Right now the font versions meant for smaller staff-sizes are physically smaller. I think we could produced all versions in the same size, just with different weights. I think that's how it's done with text fonts - for example, a font has a display

Re: [SPAM] Re: Next step for easier custom music font switching

2014-07-20 Thread Urs Liska
Am 20.07.2014 11:47, schrieb Janek Warchoł: A thought: i'm missing the possibility to set the weight of the music font used by LilyPond for a particular score. In other words: let's say i have an engraving with staff-size 16; Lilypond automatically uses Feta16 for that. I'd like to be able

Re: Next step for easier custom music font switching

2014-07-20 Thread Abraham Lee
the possibility to set the weight of the music font used by LilyPond for a particular score. In other words: let's ‘2’ Yeah, that makes sense. That's exactly how Feta (Emmentaler) is designed. Each optical size has a different weight, where heavier ones are designed for smaller print sizes and lighter ones

Re: Next step for easier custom music font switching

2014-07-20 Thread tisimst
the original functions. 99+% of the code is the same. Putting the music/brace font arguments at the end also sound fine to me if that works for everyone else. Regards, Abraham -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Next-step-for-easier-custom-music-font

Next step for easier custom music font switching

2014-07-19 Thread tisimst
like this?* (where the music and piano-brace fonts are put at the first) \paper { #(define fonts (make-pango-font-tree *lilyjazz* ; music font *gonville* ; piano brace font FreeSerif FreeSans Inconsolata (/ staff-height pt 20))) } - Question 2: *Should we require

Re: Next step for easier custom music font switching

2014-07-19 Thread Urs Liska
experience the change. - Question 1: *Should the new syntax be something like this?* (where the music and piano-brace fonts are put at the first) \paper { #(define fonts (make-pango-font-tree *lilyjazz* ; music font *gonville* ; piano brace font FreeSerif FreeSans Inconsolata

Re: Next step for easier custom music font switching

2014-07-19 Thread David Kastrup
to be made regarding how users would experience the change. - Question 1: *Should the new syntax be something like this?* (where the music and piano-brace fonts are put at the first) \paper { #(define fonts (make-pango-font-tree *lilyjazz* ; music font *gonville* ; piano brace font

standard music font layout

2013-06-16 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Some interesting activities on music fonts: http://www.smufl.org/ Werner ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

user vs. user (was: User vs Developer: Round 2 (and half-time?) (was: Re: music font)

2012-01-24 Thread Graham Percival
about bugs that annoy many people, and they waste a lot of your own time. Have you considered organizing a collective bounty to fix that bug? We now have a webpage for this: http://lilypond.org/sponsoring.html My main goal was to attract attention to Emilio's nice project of music font

Re: user vs. user (was: User vs Developer: Round 2 (and half-time?)(was: Re: music font)

2012-01-24 Thread Phil Holmes
?)(was: Re: music font) Let's take a look at the current statistics, shall we? http://lilypond.org/~graham/maybe-missing-emails.html [from 2011 Dec 01 to 2012 Jan 24] Response category Number Percent of total Less than 24 hours 50 68.49% 24 to 48 hours6 8.22% More than 48 hours 8 10.96

Re: user vs. user (was: User vs Developer: Round 2 (and half-time?)(was: Re: music font)

2012-01-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:27:56PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: Of course, a 96-hour reponse rate isn't precisely fantastic, but it's a start. Well - TBH time isn't of the essence as a general rule. Whether a bug gets added to the tracker in one day or 3 rarely affects the overall

Re: user vs. user (was: User vs Developer: Round 2 (and half-time?)(was: Re: music font)

2012-01-24 Thread Janek Warchoł
2012/1/24 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: Our published materials says 24 hours: [...] we should update that accordingly. http://codereview.appspot.com/5575047/ and stop worrying. :) ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org

Re: User vs Developer: Round 2 (and half-time?) (was: Re: music font)

2012-01-23 Thread Janek Warchoł
attention to Emilio's nice project of music font with LilyPond. I attracted Graham's attention on me instead. Well, you asked for Graham's attention when you cc'd him. I think cc'ing him was a mistake, because: - his function as administrator means that he won't do stuff like this (help someone

Re: music font

2012-01-22 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 12:05:46AM +0100, Xavier Scheuer wrote: I am not a developer, just a simple user. But I must say I am a bit disappointed no developer (except Janek) replied to your e-mail. And I'm a bit disappointed that you keep on

Re: music font

2012-01-22 Thread Emilio Grazzi
Thanks Janek for your suggestion. I'm looking at the gonville readme but it will take me some time to understand, I'll let you know. Of course I've tried some shortcuts before, I opened lilypond font (the 20pt weight) in a font-editor, modified some glyphs and dropped an otf replacing the old

Re: music font

2012-01-22 Thread Federico Bruni
Il 22/01/2012 09:40, Emilio Grazzi ha scritto: [...] Interpretazione della musica... errore di programmazione: Errore FreeType: SFNT font table missing continua, incrociare le dita errore di programmazione: Errore FreeType: SFNT font table missing continua, incrociare le dita errore di

User vs Developer: Round 2 (and half-time?) (was: Re: music font)

2012-01-22 Thread Xavier Scheuer
This is a split reply from the thread music font. http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2012-01/msg00752.html The title is a reference to the fist Users versus developers flame war of which I appear to be also at the origin. http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2009-05

Re: music font

2012-01-21 Thread Xavier Scheuer
(except Janek) replied to your e-mail. Some of these developers are known to grump at the lack of investment (mainly from users) to help improving LilyPond. And when a typographic designer come with a music font and ask for help in order to run it with LilyPond, these same developers simply ignore

Re: music font

2012-01-21 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 12:05:46AM +0100, Xavier Scheuer wrote: I am not a developer, just a simple user. But I must say I am a bit disappointed no developer (except Janek) replied to your e-mail. And I'm a bit disappointed that you keep on whining about developers not doing what you want

Re: music font

2012-01-17 Thread Janek Warchoł
2012/1/9 Emilio Grazzi i...@emiliograzzi.com: Hi you all, i'm a (typo)graphic designer from Italy and i'm about to finish my dissertation about typography inside musical notation. I would like to apply my result inside lilypond like it was for the gonville font ( 

music font

2012-01-10 Thread Emilio Grazzi
Hi you all, i'm a (typo)graphic designer from Italy and i'm about to finish my dissertation about typography inside musical notation. I would like to apply my result inside lilypond like it was for the gonville font ( http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/gonville/ ). The problem is that

Re: Suggestions for a Contemporary Music Font

2011-07-10 Thread Janek Warchoł
2011/7/10 Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com: I'm thinking of creating a font for contemporary music with the most commonly used symbols. I miss a lot of specific symbols and I'm sure a lot of LilyPond users do too. I know that there are some sources for this purpose, and find them

Re: G clef changes [was: Re: Alternative music font]

2010-01-01 Thread Marc Hohl
Carl Sorensen schrieb: [...] Ok, so I'll go for this. It isn't as easy as I thought, because I cannot just rotate the whole picture, because the path is too complex for metafont. So I'll have to transform every point and draw thereafter. It seems to work, but I have to change some explicit

Re: G clef changes [was: Re: Alternative music font]

2010-01-01 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 1/1/10 2:52 AM, Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de wrote: Carl Sorensen schrieb: [...] Ok, so I'll go for this. It isn't as easy as I thought, because I cannot just rotate the whole picture, because the path is too complex for metafont. So I'll have to transform every point and draw thereafter.

Re: G clef changes [was: Re: Alternative music font]

2010-01-01 Thread Marc Hohl
Carl Sorensen schrieb: On 1/1/10 2:52 AM, Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de wrote: Carl Sorensen schrieb: [...] Ok, so I'll go for this. It isn't as easy as I thought, because I cannot just rotate the whole picture, because the path is too complex for metafont. So I'll have to

Re: G clef changes [was: Re: Alternative music font]

2010-01-01 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 1/1/10 4:08 PM, Han-Wen Nienhuys hanw...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de wrote: IIUC, you should do the following: 1) Make a sample at 1200 dpi and post it somewhere so that we can be satisfied that it looks right at 1200 dpi. Ok, I

Re: G clef changes [was: Re: Alternative music font]

2010-01-01 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu wrote: This doesn't make a lot of sense: you should print out the PDF on a 1200 dpi printer, and see how it looks on paper.  Screen appearances are misleading. OK, so if we print it out on a 1200 dpi printer, how do we get

Re: G clef changes [was: Re: Alternative music font]

2009-12-31 Thread Marc Hohl
Carl Sorensen schrieb: On 12/30/09 7:42 AM, Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de wrote: Carl Sorensen schrieb: On 12/30/09 6:06 AM, Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de wrote: @Carl: I am not at all familiar with SVG. Could you please produce a file similar to the one you sent already with

Re: G clef changes [was: Re: Alternative music font]

2009-12-30 Thread Marc Hohl
Francisco Vila schrieb: 2009/12/29 Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de: I concatenated the pdfs to one file, which is too big for the list, so I put it on my website: http://www.hohlart.de/marc/gclef-slant.pdf I know that there is a spurious error on value 2, but I think that's not the main problem.

Re: G clef changes [was: Re: Alternative music font]

2009-12-30 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 12/30/09 6:06 AM, Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de wrote: @Carl: I am not at all familiar with SVG. Could you please produce a file similar to the one you sent already with different rotating angles? I can only produce a file like that with the clefs you have designed if you generate svg

Re: G clef changes [was: Re: Alternative music font]

2009-12-30 Thread Marc Hohl
Carl Sorensen schrieb: On 12/30/09 6:06 AM, Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de wrote: @Carl: I am not at all familiar with SVG. Could you please produce a file similar to the one you sent already with different rotating angles? I can only produce a file like that with the clefs you have

G clef changes [was: Re: Alternative music font]

2009-12-29 Thread Marc Hohl
Marc Hohl schrieb: Francisco Vila schrieb: Just to add a bit to the brainstorming: The uppermost lace of our G-clef already was slightly oversized. I cannot explain why, but latest proposals I've seen are getting it even greater. Anyone appreciates the same? Well spotted. I was not sure

Re: G clef changes [was: Re: Alternative music font]

2009-12-29 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/12/29 Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de: I concatenated the pdfs to one file, which is too big for the list, so I put it on my website: http://www.hohlart.de/marc/gclef-slant.pdf I know that there is a spurious error on value 2, but I think that's not the main problem. Which value looks best?

Re: G clef changes [was: Re: Alternative music font]

2009-12-29 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 12/29/09 1:54 PM, Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de wrote: Marc Hohl schrieb: Francisco Vila schrieb: Just to add a bit to the brainstorming: The uppermost lace of our G-clef already was slightly oversized. I cannot explain why, but latest proposals I've seen are getting it even greater.

Re: Alternative music font

2009-12-24 Thread Marc Hohl
Francisco Vila schrieb: Just to add a bit to the brainstorming: The uppermost lace of our G-clef already was slightly oversized. I cannot explain why, but latest proposals I've seen are getting it even greater. Anyone appreciates the same? Well spotted. I was not sure whether this is kind

Re: Alternative music font

2009-12-23 Thread David Kastrup
Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de writes: Carl Sorensen schrieb: Looks good to me. I'd also like to see half-way between this attempt and the first attempt, not because I think this is wrong, but because I tend to find optimum settings by finding not enough and too much and going between those

Re: Alternative music font

2009-12-23 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 12/23/09 12:41 AM, Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de wrote: Carl Sorensen schrieb: On 12/22/09 12:45 AM, Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de wrote: Carl Sorensen schrieb: On 12/21/09 1:52 PM, Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de wrote: [...] I like it much better. But I think

Re: Alternative music font

2009-12-23 Thread Francisco Vila
Just to add a bit to the brainstorming: The uppermost lace of our G-clef already was slightly oversized. I cannot explain why, but latest proposals I've seen are getting it even greater. Anyone appreciates the same? -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) www.paconet.org , www.csmbadajoz.com No le

Re: Alternative music font

2009-12-22 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 12/22/09 12:45 AM, Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de wrote: Carl Sorensen schrieb: On 12/21/09 1:52 PM, Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de wrote: [...] I like it much better. But I think that the bulb on the bottom of the clef needs to shift slightly to the right with this change.

Re: Alternative music font

2009-12-21 Thread Marc Hohl
Carl Sorensen schrieb: Jan Nieuwenhuizen janneke-list at xs4all.nl writes: Op maandag 19-10-2009 om 15:33 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Simon Tatham: It's interesting that you should mention that: that actually reminds me of one of my specific issues with Feta, namely that the curved

Re: Alternative music font

2009-12-21 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de wrote: It's interesting that you should mention that: that actually reminds me of one of my specific issues with Feta, namely that the curved centre line of its treble clef _does_ make it look to me as if it's leaning over backwards.

Re: Alternative music font

2009-12-21 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 12/21/09 3:08 AM, Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de wrote: Carl Sorensen schrieb: Jan Nieuwenhuizen janneke-list at xs4all.nl writes: Op maandag 19-10-2009 om 15:33 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Simon Tatham: It's interesting that you should mention that: that actually reminds me

Re: Alternative music font

2009-12-21 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 12/21/09 1:52 PM, Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de wrote: [...] I like it much better. But I think that the bulb on the bottom of the clef needs to shift slightly to the right with this change. Like the attached one? You may use the pdf file for a printout. This may be a bit too much

Re: Alternative music font

2009-11-28 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu wrote: It's interesting that you should mention that: that actually reminds me of one of my specific issues with Feta, namely that the curved centre line of its treble clef _does_ make it look to me as if it's leaning over

Re: Alternative music font

2009-11-01 Thread Patrick McCarty
On 2009-10-28, Patrick McCarty wrote: On 2009-10-28, Patrick McCarty wrote: On 2009-10-28, Neil Puttock wrote: 2009/10/20 Neil Puttock n.putt...@gmail.com: 2009/10/20 Patrick McCarty pnor...@gmail.com: This should be fixed now in latest git. Works for me. I guess I

Re: Alternative music font

2009-11-01 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/10/29 Patrick McCarty pnor...@gmail.com: This isn't entirely true, now that I look at it again.  In this case, gonville, gonville-brace, and aybabtu are all loaded, but aybabtu is used for the braces. Thanks for fixing this, Patrick; now I can compare and contrast the ugliness of the

Re: Alternative music font

2009-11-01 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/11/1 Patrick McCarty pnor...@gmail.com: On 2009-11-01, Neil Puttock wrote: This is what I saw before reversing the settings (my latest commit), and now everything loads fine for me. Same here, but I can't see why you need to set font-defaults twice; surely the first setting is ignored?

Re: Alternative music font

2009-11-01 Thread Patrick McCarty
On 2009-11-01, Neil Puttock wrote: 2009/11/1 Patrick McCarty pnor...@gmail.com: On 2009-11-01, Neil Puttock wrote: This is what I saw before reversing the settings (my latest commit), and now everything loads fine for me. Same here, but I can't see why you need to set font-defaults

Re: Alternative music font

2009-10-28 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/10/20 Neil Puttock n.putt...@gmail.com: 2009/10/20 Patrick McCarty pnor...@gmail.com: This should be fixed now in latest git. Works for me. I guess I spoke a bit prematurely here, since the fix you pushed always loads aybabtu, even when font-defaults has been redefined. I've tried

Re: Alternative music font

2009-10-28 Thread Patrick McCarty
On 2009-10-28, Neil Puttock wrote: 2009/10/20 Neil Puttock n.putt...@gmail.com: 2009/10/20 Patrick McCarty pnor...@gmail.com: This should be fixed now in latest git. Works for me. I guess I spoke a bit prematurely here, since the fix you pushed always loads aybabtu, even when

Re: Alternative music font

2009-10-28 Thread Patrick McCarty
On 2009-10-28, Patrick McCarty wrote: On 2009-10-28, Neil Puttock wrote: 2009/10/20 Neil Puttock n.putt...@gmail.com: 2009/10/20 Patrick McCarty pnor...@gmail.com: This should be fixed now in latest git. Works for me. I guess I spoke a bit prematurely here, since the fix you

Re: Alternative music font

2009-10-23 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) lilypondt...@organum.hu wrote: Wow too. Actually, there are things in Feta what I don't feel natural either. For example: the caesura sign, the G-clef and the trill indication feels better for me in Gonville. Though the G-clef is

Re: Alternative music font

2009-10-20 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Op maandag 19-10-2009 om 20:49 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Jan Nieuwenhuizen: Hi Simon, Op maandag 19-10-2009 om 15:33 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Simon Tatham: Jan Nieuwenhuizen janneke-l...@xs4all.nl wrote: All I'd suggest is trivial changes to Lilypond to make it easy to use an

Re: Alternative music font

2009-10-20 Thread Simon Tatham
Jan Nieuwenhuizen janneke-l...@xs4all.nl wrote: is a bit problematic. We do not want to ship font binaries, but I suppose we also do not want to add half an hour build time. I guess you feel the same: it would really be nice if you found a way to reduce the font build time :-) Absolutely!

Re: Alternative music font

2009-10-20 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/10/20 Jan Nieuwenhuizen janneke-l...@xs4all.nl: See     http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=lilypond.git;a=commitdiff;h=c56ba7b4abd3b27e96367ea04b37f2e1d3b77663 After this change, piano braces do not work. Would it require a complete font build? Drawing

Re: Alternative music font

2009-10-20 Thread Patrick McCarty
On 2009-10-20, Francisco Vila wrote: 2009/10/20 Jan Nieuwenhuizen janneke-l...@xs4all.nl: See     http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=lilypond.git;a=commitdiff;h=c56ba7b4abd3b27e96367ea04b37f2e1d3b77663 After this change, piano braces do not work. Would it require a complete font

Re: Alternative music font

2009-10-20 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/10/20 Patrick McCarty pnor...@gmail.com: This should be fixed now in latest git. Works for me. One little niggle remains: there are two grobs with font-family set to 'music (AmbitusAccidental and Clef), which means they ignore the font-family change unless it's explicitly set (i.e.,

Re: Alternative music font

2009-10-20 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Op dinsdag 20-10-2009 om 09:47 uur [tijdzone -0700], schreef Patrick McCarty: On 2009-10-20, Francisco Vila wrote: 2009/10/20 Jan Nieuwenhuizen janneke-l...@xs4all.nl: Drawing systems.../usr/local/share/lilypond/2.13.6/scm/font.scm:167:29: In procedure string-replace in expression

Re: Alternative music font

2009-10-20 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Op dinsdag 20-10-2009 om 14:58 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Simon Tatham: Jan Nieuwenhuizen janneke-l...@xs4all.nl wrote: I generate trivial Postscript describing a lot of overlapping nib shapes moving round the curves, call Ghostscript to render to a bitmap Ah, I see. Ghostscript is the

Alternative music font

2009-10-19 Thread Simon Tatham
Hi, I've recently drawn a new font of musical symbols for use with Lilypond, which look more like the ones I'm used to and hence distract me less. I put it up on the web this weekend at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/gonville/ Currently the only way I've found to use that font

Re: Alternative music font

2009-10-19 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Op maandag 19-10-2009 om 08:15 uur [tijdzone +], schreef Simon Tatham: Hi Simon, I've recently drawn a new font of musical symbols for use with Lilypond, which look more like the ones I'm used to and hence distract me less. I put it up on the web this weekend at

Re: Alternative music font

2009-10-19 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Op maandag 19-10-2009 om 15:05 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Simon Tatham: (I hope this reply to the list works. I think not, you'll have to subscribe. I had to post my previous message through the Gmane interface, but if I have to post this one the same way, I won't be able to get the

Re: Alternative music font

2009-10-19 Thread Simon Tatham
Jan Nieuwenhuizen janneke-l...@xs4all.nl wrote: Wow. You created a full font? That must have taken quite some time! I think Feta took Han-Wen and me something between one and two man-years of work. This one has only taken me a couple of months (including some initial thought about how to

Re: Alternative music font

2009-10-19 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all, Although I greatly prefer the Feta font to Gonville, I'm very much enjoying this thread — kudos to Simon and Jan for all their hard and considered work! it doesn't seem surprising to me that one answer doesn't satisfy everybody's tastes! Agreed — this is one of the great(est)

Re: Alternative music font

2009-10-19 Thread David Kastrup
Simon Tatham ana...@pobox.com writes: I may yet make another attempt at redesigning the multiple flags. The intention was to have them all essentially similar in shape Why? What do you gain by smaller note values essentially making a spread-out regular rectangular black pattern across the

Re: Alternative music font

2009-10-19 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
Wow too. Actually, there are things in Feta what I don't feel natural either. For example: the caesura sign, the G-clef and the trill indication feels better for me in Gonville. Though the G-clef is I think a clear LilyPond watermark, so I would keep that one :) The best would be if I could

Re: Alternative music font

2009-10-19 Thread Simon Tatham
(I hope this reply to the list works. I had to post my previous message through the Gmane interface, but if I have to post this one the same way, I won't be able to get the In-Reply-To header to work properly.) Jan Nieuwenhuizen janneke-l...@xs4all.nl wrote: Wow. You created a full font? That

Re: Alternative music font

2009-10-19 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Jan Nieuwenhuizen janneke-l...@xs4all.nl wrote: Op maandag 19-10-2009 om 15:05 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Simon Tatham: (I hope this reply to the list works. I think not, you'll have to subscribe. If this helps, I did receive Simon's earlier mail on the

Re: Alternative music font

2009-10-19 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Op maandag 19-10-2009 om 15:33 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Simon Tatham: Jan Nieuwenhuizen janneke-l...@xs4all.nl wrote: This one has only taken me a couple of months (including some initial thought about how to get nice-looking curves without an excessive amount of manual specification).

Re: Alternative music font

2009-10-19 Thread demery
it would be nicer if Lilypond itself could centre the digits around the 2nd and 4th lines of the stave in the case where they're smaller than 2*staff_spacing Be sure to consider non-5-line staff situations. Character glyph could be raised above the baseline using a seperate coding point for

handwritten music font

2006-06-10 Thread Johannes Schöpfer
hi all, please excuse my lousy english. i would like to design a handwritten music font for lilypond based on the art of music copying by clinton roemer. would a modyfied feta-bolletjes.mf make sense to you to have a look at it? regards, johnny -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70

mapping of custom music font, or display characters by name?

2004-05-17 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
customly-encoded feta music font. Here's a C snippet canvas = GNOME_CANVAS (canvas_widget); root = gnome_canvas_root (canvas); int text_item = gnome_canvas_text_get_type (); gnome_canvas_item_new (root, text_item, x, 45.0, y, 122.5, font, lilypond-feta-nummer 16, text