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2003-09-17 Thread Aaron
Hi, I have been using the docs and find some places to be to abbreviated. The cheat sheet is one. It seems to be geared only to those who know lilypond already. I have friends who I am trying to win over to lilypond, but they keep telling me its to complicated. an example to illustrate: -( -)

Re: Cue parts with simultaneus rests

2003-09-17 Thread Paul Scott
Paul Scott wrote: With 1.8.1 on Debian unstable when I place a cue part simultaneous with 'r1' for the instrument resting the whole rest is placed at the beginning of the measure. Duh! That's what r1 does. R1 works much better. Please ignore this thread. Paul

Re: Metronome mark not showing up.

2003-09-17 Thread Mats Bengtsson
You have to specify the tempo together with the music of the stave where you want it to appear. If you go to the on-line version of the manual and read the section on Metronome marks you can click on the example to see the corresponding input .ly file to see exactly how to do it. /Mats Darren

Re: slightly OT question about midi rendering

2003-09-17 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Lucas Gonze wrote: Sorry to say that I tried moving the tempo command around and had no luck. It's possible that I missed whichever magic location is required, though, since my test file is from a template that I don't fully understand. I will try again with simpler Lilypond source.

Re: Cue parts with simultaneus rests

2003-09-17 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Always use R1 (or R2. or R2 if you are in 3/4 or 2/4, respectively) for whole bar rests. This has nothing to do with cue parts. /Mats Paul Scott wrote: With 1.8.1 on Debian unstable when I place a cue part simultaneous with 'r1' for the instrument resting the whole rest is placed at the

Re: slightly OT question about midi rendering

2003-09-17 Thread Nathan Hurst
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 10:36:52 +0200 Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, the problem is that MIDI isn't really well standardized. Different MIDI interpreters (sound cards as well as software) handle these things differently. It's fully possible that you are not seeing a general

Re: Beams == Melismata?

2003-09-17 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Jozsa Marton writes: Why beams mean melismata? Because that's the convention, at least in the music with lyrics that I have seen. It is very strange for me that setting \property Staff.automaticMelismata = ##t \autoBeamOff c-[ d e-] will mean a melisma for the lyrics, but I think

Re: Quarter-tones

2003-09-17 Thread Thorkil Wolvendans
At 00:11 17-9-03 +0200, you wrote: My real problem is: where does it end? We can add quarter tone accidentals by doubling the alteration field, we now have 0 = natural, 1 = sharp 2 = double sharp. We could do 0 = natural 1 = 1/2 sharp 2 = sharp 3 =

Re: Quarter-tones

2003-09-17 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, I don't think people will start mumbling about 1/3 sharps really fast, because as far as my knowledge goes, that's pretty hard to achieve...(correct me if I'm wrong - I'm only a simple composer molesting the piano all day..! ;) But I would recommend the

Re: Metronome mark not showing up.

2003-09-17 Thread Aaron
Hi, I just put in a MM and the note was huge way out of porportion to the notes in the score and the paper size. Must I do something special to fix this??? In most printed music with a MM it is usually quite small Thanks Aaron ___ Lilypond-user

Re: Quarter-tones

2003-09-17 Thread Thorkil Wolvendans
At 12:57 17-9-03 +0200, you wrote: The point isn't what symbols to use (designing them isn't so difficult), but how to represent them internally. If we change that, we will break a lot Scheme and C++ code. That is is inevitable, but I'd rather get it right for once and for all. I think what you

Debian (Sid) packages for Lilypond 1.9.6

2003-09-17 Thread Pedro Kroger
Debian Sid packages of Lilypond 1.9.6 are available from my website: http://www.pedrokroeger.net/lilypond/ They're also apt-gettable adding the following line to sources.list: deb http://www.pedrokroeger.net/lilypond/ ./ And running the commands: apt-get update apt-get install lilypond (or

Re: Quarter-tones

2003-09-17 Thread Peter Lutek
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: My real problem is: where does it end? We can add quarter tone accidentals by doubling the alteration field, we now have 0 = natural, 1 = sharp 2 = double sharp. We could do 0 = natural 1 = 1/2 sharp 2 = sharp 3 = 3/4 sharp 4

Re: Stanza numbers

2003-09-17 Thread Rob V
I've been wanting to do the same thing with the alignment of the stanza numbers, so I figured this morining would be a good time to try. Reading through the documentation, and experimenting a little, I added the line: \property LyricsVoice . StanzaNumber \set #'break-align-symbol =

Re: Darn, it doesn't work

2003-09-17 Thread Adrian Peakman
Download and ran setup.exe from your download site. Ran setup.exe using all the options you suggest ( used ftp://cygwin.csie.ntu.edu.tw/pub/cygwin as download source) Tried to run the sample you suggest...didn't suceed. Included is the bug.txt as you requested, and the two output files

Re: slightly OT question about midi rendering

2003-09-17 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
On Tuesday 16 September 2003 09:45 pm, Richard Schoeller wrote: Timidity can adjust volume with timidity -T n% where n is the percentage of change desired. Thanks for the midi staff trick. daveA -- Why should any country entrust its young people to the leadership of the same geniuses who

Re: Darn, it doesn't work

2003-09-17 Thread Mats Bengtsson
What is it you think doesn't work? Actually, I think the only reason that you get some strange errors in your log file is that the bug-lilypond-cygwin script hasn't been updated since the documentation was moved from /usr/doc/ to /usr/share/doc/. Try to run the following commands manually: cp

Re: Debian (Sid) packages for Lilypond 1.9.6

2003-09-17 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
On Wednesday 17 September 2003 08:41 am, Pedro Kroger wrote: Debian Sid packages of Lilypond 1.9.6 are available from my website: http://www.pedrokroeger.net/lilypond/ They're also apt-gettable adding the following line to sources.list : deb http://www.pedrokroeger.net/lilypond/ ./ And

[Józsa Márton] RE: Beams == Melismata?

2003-09-17 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
---BeginMessage--- Well, then I think it depends on the language of lyrics. According to Hungarian conventions beams never mean melismata, only slurs and ties. (I came to this problem when I wanted to unbeam two notes. Can it be done without switching autobeaming temporarily off?) I suppose that

Awkward Slur

2003-09-17 Thread Will Oram
Check out this megaslur using the \translator command: http://www.foxchange.com/~spamguy/misc_pictures/slursegment.jpg What's the best way to fix this? Ideally I'd like to make the slur bulge more and have the right end closer to the c4. I've looked through the documentation at

cross-barline AND cross-linebreak beams

2003-09-17 Thread plutek
regression | beaming.ly states Beams may cross bar lines. In that case, line breaks are forbidden. i am attempting to typeset a piece with many cross-barline beamings. in some places, there is insufficient opportunity, while avoiding beamed-across barlines, to find line breaks. i get a warning:

Re: Debian (Sid) packages for Lilypond 1.9.6

2003-09-17 Thread Paul Scott
David Raleigh Arnold wrote: On Wednesday 17 September 2003 08:41 am, Pedro Kroger wrote: Debian Sid packages of Lilypond 1.9.6 are available from my website: Interesting. I didn't get that post. (snip) picky I'm all between distributions right now, but like every lilypond debian user who

Re: Debian (Sid) packages for Lilypond 1.9.6

2003-09-17 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
On Wednesday 17 September 2003 03:41 pm, Paul Scott wrote: David Raleigh Arnold wrote: On Wednesday 17 September 2003 08:41 am, Pedro Kroger wrote: Debian Sid packages of Lilypond 1.9.6 are available from my website: I am not developing Debian. Many people I know run unstable unless they

Re: Debian (Sid) packages for Lilypond 1.9.6

2003-09-17 Thread Pedro Kroger
* David Raleigh Arnold ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Try it, you'll like it. Could you put a textfile in your lilypond (for download) directory showing the commands? great info, thanks! I've put it in a file called readme.txt. I'm all between distributions right now, but like every lilypond

[Józsa Márton] RE: Beams == Melismata?

2003-09-17 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, then I think it depends on the language of lyrics. According to Hungarian conventions beams never mean melismata, only slurs and ties. (I came to this problem when I wanted to unbeam two notes. Can it be done without switching autobeaming temporarily off?) I

Re: Quarter-tones

2003-09-17 Thread Nathan Hurst
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 13:53:56 +0200 Thorkil Wolvendans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think what you suggested must be sufficient, for I don't think people will start asking about 1/3 sharps and/or 3/5 flats, but that is because I don't believe these kinds of accidentals exist. Actually, the

Re: cross-barline AND cross-linebreak beams

2003-09-17 Thread Peter Lutek
regression | beaming.ly states Beams may cross bar lines. In that case, line breaks are forbidden. sorry. i was attempting incorrect implementation of allowBeamBreak. thanks to stefaan himpe for his example of implementation in the thread line break problem from mid-august! i'll move

Re: line break problem

2003-09-17 Thread Peter Lutek
thanks, stefaan, for your example of correct implementation of allowBeamBreak --- it is a great relief to have this functioning. now i am wondering if there is any way to make the broken beam follow the angle it would have taken if unbroken (other than manually tweaking them). i have a

Re: Quarter-tones

2003-09-17 Thread Peter Lutek
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: See 1.9 CVS: * Quarter tones are now supported. They are entered by suffixing `ih' for a half-sharp and `eh' for a half-flat. Hence, the following is an ascending list of pitches: ceses ceseh ces ceh c cih cis cisih cisis excellent... thankyou!

Re: Debian (Sid) packages for Lilypond 1.9.6

2003-09-17 Thread Paul Scott
Pedro Kroger wrote: Forgot to send it to the list again. And then I sent it to the wrong list! sooner. However, I am considering the possibility of becoming a debian developer and making a official lilypond-unstable package. I guess it would be available for all debian flavors then. Did you

emacs lilypond-mode still not working with Pedro's 1.9.6

2003-09-17 Thread Paul Scott
I have cleaned up my .emacs and looked at all the documentation I can find.and after installing Pedro's 1.9.6 debs I get the following when loading an ly file into emacs Loading lilypond-mode (source)... File mode specification error: (invalid-read-syntax #) After reinstalling 1.8.1 from Debian