Re: status of release 2.16.0

2012-05-21 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 01:02:01AM +0200, Valentin Villenave wrote: there is a long-ish explanation about the release process in our latest LilyPond Report: http://news.lilynet.net/?The-LilyPond-Report-26#the_road_to_2_16 Can we get a news item for this? and maybe a (general) email to the

Manual volta placement and invisible barline kills previous barline

2012-05-21 Thread Philip Thomas
Hi fellow-users, I don't know whether I have one joint problem or two separate ones. My apologies for running them together in the same post if they are in reality separate issues. I'm putting together a vocal (choir) score in the key of G major which has five repeated sections. I tried

Re: Manual volta placement and invisible barline kills previous barline

2012-05-21 Thread David Kastrup
Philip Thomas philip.tho...@bluewin.ch writes: Hi fellow-users,   I don’t know whether I have one joint problem or two separate ones. My apologies for running them together in the same post if they are in reality separate issues.   I’m putting together a vocal (choir) score in the key

contemporary accidental style

2012-05-21 Thread Orm Finnendahl
Hi, for years I'm sorely missing an accidental style for contemporary music, which I always use and which is quite common among contemporary composers in my experience. At the moment it requires quite some extra work in every score implementing the accidentals explicitely although its behaviour

Re: Source management tools for lilypond projects

2012-05-21 Thread Susan Dittmar
Dear Urs, I just have one thing to add to the discussion: *do* use one of the repository tools! No matter which one (you had some suggestions already), but do use one! I do so since about 10 years (csv originally, converted to subversion some -- more than 6, I think -- years ago), and even for

Re: contemporary accidental style

2012-05-21 Thread David Kastrup
Orm Finnendahl o.finnend...@inm.mh-freiburg.de writes: Hi, for years I'm sorely missing an accidental style for contemporary music, which I always use and which is quite common among contemporary composers in my experience. At the moment it requires quite some extra work in every score

Re: contemporary accidental style

2012-05-21 Thread Orm Finnendahl
Am Montag, den 21. Mai 2012 um 15:37:33 Uhr (+0200) schrieb David Kastrup: \accidentalStyle neo-modern does not match your requirements? its close, but the immediate repetition is the problem. I encounter calls by musicians quite often if I don't explicitely restate the accidental (even if

Re: contemporary accidental style

2012-05-21 Thread Jonas Olson
On 2012-05-21 13:09, Orm Finnendahl wrote: My suggestion for the name of this style would be contemporary That only works from our particular point of view. If someone runs Lilypond sometime far into the distant future or in the distant past, they wouldn't see it as contemporary. I'd suggest a

BeatStructure in 4/4 time

2012-05-21 Thread Urs Liska
I'm stuck :-( Why doesn't this work as I expect? . \version 2.15.36 \time 4/4 \set Timing. BeatStructure = #'(1 1 1 1) c8 c c c c c c c This should result in four groups of two beamed notes, isn't it? But I always get two groups of four notes. The same problem with 3/4, but with 5/4 I can do

Re: contemporary accidental style

2012-05-21 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Orm Finnendahl writes: \accidentalStyle neo-modern does not match your requirements? its close, but the immediate repetition is the problem. I encounter calls by musicians quite often if I don't explicitely restate the accidental (even if it's stated in the foreword). Question is: is

Re: BeatStructure in 4/4 time

2012-05-21 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de wrote: I'm stuck :-( Why doesn't this work as I expect? . \version 2.15.36 \time 4/4 \set Timing. BeatStructure = #'(1 1 1 1) c8 c c c c c c c you have to clear BeamExceptions if i remember correctly. HTH, Janek

Re: contemporary accidental style

2012-05-21 Thread Orm Finnendahl
Am Montag, den 21. Mai 2012 um 15:58:14 Uhr (+0200) schrieb Jan Nieuwenhuizen: Question is: is neo-modern used and appreciated as it works right now and do we indeed need a contemporary style, or should neo-modern behave like Orm describes? I would opt for that. The only situation, I know of,

Re: Source management tools for lilypond projects

2012-05-21 Thread Francisco Vila
2012/5/21 Susan Dittmar susan.ditt...@gmx.de: Dear Urs, I just have one thing to add to the discussion: *do* use one of the repository tools! No matter which one (you had some suggestions already), but do use one! I'd like to add just one more idea. You could use a CVS such as Git, and maybe

Re: BeatStructure in 4/4 time

2012-05-21 Thread Urs Liska
Thanks, that was it. OK, it# in the docs, but I had to re-read it three times until I got it :-( Best Urs -- Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Mobiltelefon mit K-9 Mail gesendet. Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com schrieb: On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Urs Liska

Re: contemporary accidental style

2012-05-21 Thread Orm Finnendahl
Am Montag, den 21. Mai 2012 um 16:18:16 Uhr (+0200) schrieb Orm Finnendahl: The example for neo-modern in the documentation actually is an excellent example for a situation where the musician has to ask about the second fis because it's not obvious if the accidental has been accidentally

Re: Source management tools for lilypond projects

2012-05-21 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Susan Dittmar susan.ditt...@gmx.de wrote: One thing you will have to think about is check-in policy though. I personally like to check in very often, but that means the checked in version might not compile, let alone be in a state acceptable to use. I

Re: use guile to set specific extra-offset values if stem direction is up or down

2012-05-21 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi José, On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 9:09 AM, padovani zepadovani.li...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, I'm dealing with special noteheads I've designed and I need to move the stem and the flag differently if stem direction is up or down. I would like to create a guile lisp clause that sets the

use guile to set specific extra-offset values if stem direction is up or down

2012-05-21 Thread padovani
Hello, I'm dealing with special noteheads I've designed and I need to move the stem and the flag differently if stem direction is up or down. I would like to create a guile lisp clause that sets the extra-offset value accordingly to the Stem position. I was trying this, but it does not

Re:Manual volta placement and invisible barline kills previous barline

2012-05-21 Thread Philip Thomas
Aha, I thought: try adding an invisible barline at the beginning of bar 5. That works fine to position the volta bracket correctly, but it also makes the barline at the end of bar 4 invisible also, even when I add a manual single barline at the end of bar 4. (See Example B below.)

Re: use guile to set specific extra-offset values if stem direction is up or down

2012-05-21 Thread padovani
Em 5/21/12 11:44 AM, David Nalesnik escreveu: \override Stem #'extra-offset = #(lambda (grob) (if (eqv? (ly:stem::calc-direction grob) UP) '(-0.02 . -0.25) '(0.02 . 0.25))) Hello David, thank you very much! Now I see that ly:stem::calc-direction only gives me the standard Stem

Re: mention canceled releases on website? (was: status of release 2.16.0)

2012-05-21 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 8:56 AM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 08:53:05AM +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 2:32 AM, Neil Thornock neilthorn...@gmail.com wrote: Not sure why nothing was mentioned on the website. I'm not happy with

Re: use guile to set specific extra-offset values if stem direction is up or down

2012-05-21 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi José, On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:20 AM, padovani zepadovani.li...@gmail.comwrote: Em 5/21/12 11:44 AM, David Nalesnik escreveu: \override Stem #'extra-offset = #(lambda (grob) (if (eqv? (ly:stem::calc-direction grob) UP) '(-0.02 . -0.25) '(0.02 . 0.25))) Hello David, thank

Re: use guile to set specific extra-offset values if stem direction is up or down

2012-05-21 Thread padovani
Oh, I'm sorry... I was reading everything in a hurry and didn't got the second part of your message. Thank you again! 2012/5/21 David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com Hi José, On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:20 AM, padovani zepadovani.li...@gmail.comwrote: Em 5/21/12 11:44 AM, David Nalesnik

Re: Volta repeat with different lyrics places all words on lower staff

2012-05-21 Thread Colin Jesse Kinlund
Thank you so much for the responses! Trevor’s solution was successful (using alignBelowContext). I feel like I scoured the manuals for this, and saw nothing of using it for this purpose — A.4.3 SATB with aligned contexts doesn’t really demonstrate why you’d want to use that construct over the

Re: use guile to set specific extra-offset values if stem direction is up or down

2012-05-21 Thread David Nalesnik
José, On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 11:02 AM, padovani zepadovani.li...@gmail.comwrote: Oh, I'm sorry... I was reading everything in a hurry and didn't got the second part of your message. No problem! I learned something new about ly:stem::calc-direction because of your email: didn't know that it

Re: use guile to set specific extra-offset values if stem direction is up or down

2012-05-21 Thread padovani
Hi again, so.. as the flags are now separate objects (2.15.38), I'm having problems to move them to the same place that I am moving the stems... if I just reproduce the lambda function I am using with Stems with flags, it does not work... \once \override Stem #'extra-offset =

Re: use guile to set specific extra-offset values if stem direction is up or down

2012-05-21 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi José, On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 12:25 PM, padovani zepadovani.li...@gmail.comwrote: Hi again, so.. as the flags are now separate objects (2.15.38), I'm having problems to move them to the same place that I am moving the stems... if I just reproduce the lambda function I am using with Stems

Re: use guile to set specific extra-offset values if stem direction is up or down

2012-05-21 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi again, It would be possible to offset both of them, but I think you might be better served by approaching the problem from a different angle. You can control the relative positioning of stem and note head through 'stem-attachment, which is a property of NoteHead. The flag will move

Error in tremolo with accidentals

2012-05-21 Thread Marcos da Silva Sampaio
Hello. I'm trying to write a tremolo that fills a 4/4 bar. I used the code below and I got this error message: Drawing systems...lilypond: ../flower/include/drul-array.hh:35: T Drul_arrayT::at(Direction) [with T = double]: Assertion `d == 1 || d == -1' failed. { \repeat tremolo 16 { ees32 g } }

Re: TupletNumber placement - can you improve this function?

2012-05-21 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi David, On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 2:42 PM, David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 2:34 AM, Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com wrote: That's the true LilyPond way: instead of fixing the same thing all the time, write one fix once and for all - kudos!  I

Re: Letters as Left hand fingering

2012-05-21 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
To David and Nick, I thank you very much for your kind help. I have now plenty of new ways to emprove my left fingering notation. Pierre 2012/5/17 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net writes: On 16/05/12 17:43, David Kastrup wrote: Nick

Re: Volta repeat with different lyrics places all words on lower staff

2012-05-21 Thread Trevor Daniels
Colin Jesse Kinlund wrote Monday, May 21, 2012 5:06 PM Thank you so much for the responses! Trevor’s solution was successful (using alignBelowContext). I feel like I scoured the manuals for this, and saw nothing of using it for this purpose — A.4.3 SATB with aligned contexts doesn’t

Re: Manual volta placement and invisible barline kills previous barline

2012-05-21 Thread Thomas Morley
2012/5/21 Philip Thomas philip.tho...@bluewin.ch: Aha, I thought: try adding an invisible barline at the beginning of bar 5. That works fine to position the volta bracket correctly, but it also makes the barline at the end of bar 4 invisible also, even when I add a manual single barline at the

Jazz chords

2012-05-21 Thread rosea.grammostola
Hi, What is the status of this? http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2011-11/msg00285.html I'm searching for a way to display A7(#5) Regards, \r ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Voices and vocals

2012-05-21 Thread John McWilliam
Snippet: \relative c' { \time 4/4 r2 r8 \new Voice = melody { \autoBeamOff \partial 4. c'4.^\markup {Sjung.} % Rehersal mark A \mark \default \slurDown

Voices and vocals

2012-05-21 Thread John McWilliam
\relative c' { \time 4/4 r2 r8 \new Voice = melody { \autoBeamOff \partial 4. c'4.^\markup {Sjung.} % Rehersal mark A \mark \default \slurDown

Re: Source management tools for lilypond projects

2012-05-21 Thread Urs Liska
Dear Susan, thank you for the valuable input. What you describe is basically what I thought how it works - but didn't know for sure due to lack of experience. Especially the aspect of branching is interesting, as I didn't really have an idea about that. So what you describe as the intention of

Re: Voices and vocals

2012-05-21 Thread Thomas Morley
2012/5/21 John McWilliam jsmcwill...@gmail.com: (...) The snippet seems to compile without any errors Well, it returns: atest-14.ly:757:16: error: unknown escaped string: `\Bkey' \Bkey atest-14.ly:757:16: error: syntax error, unexpected STRING \Bkey

Re: Four Bars per Line/System, again :)

2012-05-21 Thread Thomas Morley
2012/5/21 David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com: Added as  http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?u=1id=838 -David Hi David, I'm going to approve your snippet. I'd prefer to use the Standalone-snippet-option (I changed it this way). What do you think? -Harm

Re: Jazz chords

2012-05-21 Thread lilypond
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 05:51:25PM +0200, rosea.grammostola wrote: Hi, What is the status of this? http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2011-11/msg00285.html What do you mean by 'status'? It works for me. I've tweaked the markup to suit my tastes, and have added some additional

Re: Source management tools for lilypond projects

2012-05-21 Thread Colin Hall
Hi Urs, In addition to version control your team may need the concept of a build token. The person holding the token has the right to merge in their latest work and, in so doing, break the project. They also have the responsibility to leave it in a working state before releasing the token for

Re: Four Bars per Line/System, again :)

2012-05-21 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi Harm, On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com wrote: 2012/5/21 David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com: Added as http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?u=1id=838 -David Hi David, I'm going to approve your snippet. I'd prefer to use the

Re: Source management tools for lilypond projects

2012-05-21 Thread Urs Liska
Am 22.05.2012 00:53, schrieb Colin Hall: Hi Urs, In addition to version control your team may need the concept of a build token. The person holding the token has the right to merge in their latest work and, in so doing, break the project. They also have the responsibility to leave it in a

Re: TupletNumber placement - can you improve this function?

2012-05-21 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi Janek, On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.comwrote: Hi David, On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 2:42 PM, David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 2:34 AM, Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com wrote: [ ... ] You get