Re: Chords in LilyPond

2017-05-24 Thread mskala
On Thu, 25 May 2017, Charles Winston wrote: > > On May 25, 2017, at 12:26 AM, Kieren MacMillan > > wrote: Except contains a > > huge amount of information that cannot currently be input in > > \chordmode (as far as I know). > > > > Ultimately, as long as we end up

Re: Chords in LilyPond

2017-05-24 Thread Charles Winston
> On May 25, 2017, at 12:26 AM, Kieren MacMillan > wrote: > > Hi Charles, > >>> Which mode of input? >>> \chordmode { c1:7 } >>> or >>> { 1 } >> >> I think \chordmode will be the most useful form of input, because that way >> we know the user's

Re: Chords in LilyPond

2017-05-24 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Charles, >> Which mode of input? >> \chordmode { c1:7 } >> or >> { 1 } > > I think \chordmode will be the most useful form of input, because that way we > know the user's intentions with the chords. It would be tough to infer the > semantics from just the note input, which

Re: Chords in LilyPond

2017-05-24 Thread Winston, Charles R.
On May 25, 2017, at 12:09 AM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: >> how much should we base this data structure on the current mode of input? > > Which mode of input? > >\chordmode { c1:7 } > > or > >{ 1 } I think \chordmode will be the most

Re: Chords in LilyPond

2017-05-24 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Charles, > we certainly want the output to match the input. An important question is: is it a one-to-one relationship? > how much should we base this data structure on the current mode of input? Which mode of input? \chordmode { c1:7 } or { 1 } ?? > certain

Re: Chords in LilyPond

2017-05-24 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Matthew (et al.), > What I think is most needed is a chord-naming mode that *just prints what > the user typed*, formatted with the fonts, spacing, and so on that we > expect for chord names - not translating it to an "internal > representation" of notes plus extra data as LilyPond "music" at

Re: Chords in LilyPond

2017-05-24 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Simon (et al.), >> added bass note >> inversions > I’m under the impression that in chord notation those are actually the same Definitely not! What if I want a C7 in second inversion over a Db? In pseudo-harmonic-analysis code, that would be C4/3 / Db In my compositions (especially

Re: Chords in LilyPond

2017-05-24 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Harm, > Once I tried to get Brandt-Roemer namings. Have you seen my B-R stylesheet? It’s almost a complete representation. > The criteria which pitches are regarded to set extensions, etc are different > enough from Ignatzek > that it would have resulted in a complete rewrite of the >

RE: Permission for music

2017-05-24 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
So we should burn the books because the ignorant refuse to learn? -Original Message- From: lilypond-user [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org] On Behalf Of msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 6:43 PM To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re:

Re: Permission for music

2017-05-24 Thread David Wright
On Wed 24 May 2017 at 20:42:36 (-0500), msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca wrote: > On Wed, 24 May 2017, David Wright wrote: > > Perhaps this is because educators are pandering to their ignorance, > > thus decreasing the likelihood they'll ever encounter the term. > > I'm glad that LilyPond's authors know

Re: Chords in LilyPond

2017-05-24 Thread Winston, Charles R.
> On May 24, 2017, at 9:40 PM, "msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca" > wrote: > >> On Wed, 24 May 2017, Charles Winston wrote: >> I’m participating in the Google Summer of Code working on improving >> LilyPond’s internal representation of chords. The goal here is to create a

Re: Permission for music

2017-05-24 Thread mskala
On Wed, 24 May 2017, David Wright wrote: > Perhaps this is because educators are pandering to their ignorance, > thus decreasing the likelihood they'll ever encounter the term. > I'm glad that LilyPond's authors know precisely what it does so well. Removing the advertisement is much easier than

Re: Chords in LilyPond

2017-05-24 Thread mskala
On Wed, 24 May 2017, Charles Winston wrote: > I’m participating in the Google Summer of Code working on improving > LilyPond’s internal representation of chords. The goal here is to create a > data structure that will represent a chord’s semantics beyond just a list of > notes in the chord. The

Re: Chords in LilyPond

2017-05-24 Thread Thomas Morley
2017-05-25 0:17 GMT+02:00 Charles Winston : > I would love to hear any ideas from the user community about this. And beyond > the specific issues I’m talking about here, what aspects of LilyPond’s > support for chords do you believe should be improved or changed? I think

Re: Chords in LilyPond

2017-05-24 Thread Thomas Morley
2017-05-25 0:54 GMT+02:00 Simon Albrecht : > Am 25.05.2017 um 00:17 schrieb Charles Winston: >> >> added bass note >> inversions > > > I’m under the impression that in chord notation those are actually the same > – I don’t think that there is a conceptual difference between

Re: Chords in LilyPond

2017-05-24 Thread Thomas Morley
2017-05-25 0:17 GMT+02:00 Charles Winston : > Hi LilyPond users, > > I’m participating in the Google Summer of Code working on improving > LilyPond’s internal representation of chords. The goal here is to create a > data structure that will represent a chord’s semantics

Re: Permission for music

2017-05-24 Thread David Wright
On Wed 24 May 2017 at 22:30:46 (+), Karlin High wrote: > On 5/24/2017 5:19 PM, msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca wrote: > > On Wed, 24 May 2017, Simon Albrecht wrote: > >> Only if you overlook that the tagline specifically says the music was > >> _engraved_ with LilyPond, which does not tell anything

Re: Chords in LilyPond

2017-05-24 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 25.05.2017 um 00:17 schrieb Charles Winston: How do we deal with semantics that may overlap between these categories? For example: is a sharp-5 an alteration or just an augmented chord? Off the top of my head: Both should be possible input methods, but internally represented the same. How

Re: Chords in LilyPond

2017-05-24 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 25.05.2017 um 00:17 schrieb Charles Winston: added bass note inversions I’m under the impression that in chord notation those are actually the same – I don’t think that there is a conceptual difference between C/E and C/D in chord notation. But it may be that instead of this pragmatic

Re: Chords in LilyPond

2017-05-24 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hello Charles, > I’m participating in the Google Summer of Code working on improving > LilyPond’s internal representation of chords. As someone who uses chord names extensively, I’m thrilled that you’re tackling this! > The goal here is to create a data structure that will represent a chord’s

Re: Permission for music

2017-05-24 Thread Karlin High
On 5/24/2017 5:19 PM, msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca wrote: > On Wed, 24 May 2017, Simon Albrecht wrote: >> Only if you overlook that the tagline specifically says the music was >> _engraved_ with LilyPond, which does not tell anything about any connection >> between LilyPond and the _content_. >> >>

Re: Permission for music

2017-05-24 Thread mskala
On Wed, 24 May 2017, Simon Albrecht wrote: > > This is one reason that putting advertising for the LilyPond Web site in > > every PDF document by default may not be such a great idea. It makes > > LilyPond appear to have a meaningful connection with the content. > > Only if you overlook that the

Chords in LilyPond

2017-05-24 Thread Charles Winston
Hi LilyPond users, I’m participating in the Google Summer of Code working on improving LilyPond’s internal representation of chords. The goal here is to create a data structure that will represent a chord’s semantics beyond just a list of notes in the chord. The current representation contains

Re: Can an augmentation dot be parenthesized?

2017-05-24 Thread Thomas Morley
Hi David, 2017-05-24 22:40 GMT+02:00 David Nalesnik : > Hi, > > On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 12:47 PM, Lukas-Fabian Moser wrote: >> Hi Robert, >> >>> >>> I would tather like to parenthesize these added augmenation dots but I've >>> not found a way to do that. >>

Re: Permission for music

2017-05-24 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 24.05.2017 um 15:41 schrieb msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca: On Wed, 24 May 2017, Manuela Gößnitzer wrote: Which website would that be? AFAIK this here is a mailing list, there is no website with music sheets. This is one reason that putting advertising for the LilyPond Web site in every PDF

Re: Can an augmentation dot be parenthesized?

2017-05-24 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 24.05.2017 um 10:58 schrieb Robert Blackstone: For two consecutive bars the time seems to have changed, from 6/2 to 5/2, which, as far as I know, was never done in that period. This makes me think of John Dowland, who used bar lines in his songs, but quite irregularly (depending on the

Re: Can an augmentation dot be parenthesized?

2017-05-24 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi, On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 12:47 PM, Lukas-Fabian Moser wrote: > Hi Robert, > >> >> I would tather like to parenthesize these added augmenation dots but I've >> not found a way to do that. > > > I don't know how to parenthesize them, but here is a solution yielding > brackets

Re: Can an augmentation dot be parenthesized?

2017-05-24 Thread Thomas Morley
2017-05-24 10:58 GMT+02:00 Robert Blackstone : > > Dear all, > I'm transcribing a few handwritten late 17th century fragments of music. > > There are a few problematic spots. (Perhaps the composer or writer was in a > hurry, the whole thing is difficult to read anyway

Re: Can an augmentation dot be parenthesized?

2017-05-24 Thread Lukas-Fabian Moser
Hi Robert, > I would tather like to parenthesize these added augmenation dots but I've > not found a way to do that. > I don't know how to parenthesize them, but here is a solution yielding brackets around them: \version "2.19.44" #(define (special-bracketify original-stencil len thick

Re: changing alignment of augmentation dots across multiple voices in the same staff

2017-05-24 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 5/24/17 7:49 AM, "David Nalesnik" wrote: >On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 2:51 PM, Kieren MacMillan > wrote: >> Hi David, >> >>> I would say so. However, the situation is more complicated: >> >> #ugh #IsntItAlways >> >>> [Simon:] maybe a

Re: Permission for music

2017-05-24 Thread Paul Scott
On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 02:35:57PM +0200, Manuela Gößnitzer wrote: > IMSLP hosts only free scores, the composer must have been deceased for more > than 70 years. It's not that simple at all. IMSLP has music that is copyrighted and relies on the downloader to not break copyright laws. For

different margins for headers/footers than systems/score

2017-05-24 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hello all, In the snippet below, I’m trying to have a “fancy header”, where the inside edge (barline) of the score is aligned with the inside edge of the header, but the outside edge (barline) of the score is aligned to a line in the header *outside of which the page number appears*. I’ve

Re: Frecobaldi 3.0 install

2017-05-24 Thread Using
Hi, Knute, Thank you. I will send to frecobaldi as suggested. Ming Sent from my iPhone > On May 23, 2017, at 1:46 PM, Knute Snortum wrote: > > You may have gotten no responses because this is off-topic for this list. > Have you tried the Frescobaldi mailing list? > >

Re: changing alignment of augmentation dots across multiple voices in the same staff

2017-05-24 Thread David Nalesnik
On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 2:51 PM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Hi David, > >> I would say so. However, the situation is more complicated: > > #ugh #IsntItAlways > >> [Simon:] maybe a context property to turn off alignment of dotted rests >> would be useful? > > That

Re: Permission for music

2017-05-24 Thread mskala
On Wed, 24 May 2017, Manuela Gößnitzer wrote: > Which website would that be? AFAIK this here is a mailing list, there is no > website with music sheets. This is one reason that putting advertising for the LilyPond Web site in every PDF document by default may not be such a great idea. It makes

Re: Permission for music

2017-05-24 Thread Manuela Gößnitzer
IMSLP hosts only free scores, the composer must have been deceased for more than 70 years. Last time I checked YT was still alive ;-) actually he is much younger than I am. I have done engraving of Amelie theme myself for private purposes, I think the sheet I produced is nicer than Kevin's.

Re: repeat percent footnote

2017-05-24 Thread Gianmaria Lari
I can live without it :) It was more a curiosity than a necessity. Thank you anyway! g. On 24 May 2017 at 10:57, Thomas Morley wrote: > 2017-05-24 9:01 GMT+02:00 Gianmaria Lari : > > Need again some help about footnote and repeat. Have a look

Re: Permission for music

2017-05-24 Thread N. Andrew Walsh
Hi List, doing a quick google search for the title and "sheet music" returns this link on the first page: http://www.kevinhabits.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Amelie-theme-Yann-Tiersen.pdf which was engraved with Lilypond (as noted in the sheet music). I'm guessing this is the sheet music to

Re: Permission for music

2017-05-24 Thread Remy CLAVERIE
May be she was talking about the IMSLP website ? The best,   Rémy           > Message du 24/05/17 11:10 > De : "Manuela Gößnitzer" > A : "Sarah Fosdick" > Copie à : "lilypond-user Mailinglist" > Objet : Re: Permission for music > > Which website would that be? AFAIK this here is a

re: Can an augmentation dot be parenthesized?

2017-05-24 Thread Remy CLAVERIE
Hi Robert,   You can use this definition: ficta = { \once \override AccidentalSuggestion #'parenthesized = ##t \once \set suggestAccidentals = ##t }   And use it this way just before the note with an ? : cis4 \ficta cis?   Have a nice day,   Rémy     > Message du 24/05/17 10:59 > De

Re: Permission for music

2017-05-24 Thread Manuela Gößnitzer
Which website would that be? AFAIK this here is a mailing list, there is no website with music sheets. Greetings Manuela 2017-05-24 2:40 GMT+02:00 Sarah Fosdick : > Hi, I am a piano student, and I have a piano test coming up. I know the > song "Comptine d'un autre été

Can an augmentation dot be parenthesized?

2017-05-24 Thread Robert Blackstone
Dear all, I'm transcribing a few handwritten late 17th century fragments of music. There are a few problematic spots. (Perhaps the composer or writer was in a hurry, the whole thing is difficult to read anyway and it contains some symbols I've never seen before. see screensho.t) For two

Re: repeat percent footnote

2017-05-24 Thread Thomas Morley
2017-05-24 9:01 GMT+02:00 Gianmaria Lari : > Need again some help about footnote and repeat. Have a look to this example: > > \version "2.19.60" > { > \repeat percent 2 {c'8 d' e' f' \footnote #'(1 . 5) "This is a note on > percent" RepeatSlash } > \repeat percent 2

Permission for music

2017-05-24 Thread Sarah Fosdick
Hi, I am a piano student, and I have a piano test coming up. I know the song "Comptine d'un autre été - L'aprés-midi by Yann Tiersen. I printed the sheet music off your website, and was wondering if I have permission to use the music for my coming up piano test? Thank you!

Re: repeat percent footnote

2017-05-24 Thread Gianmaria Lari
Need again some help about footnote and repeat. Have a look to this example: \version "2.19.60" { \repeat percent 2 {c'8 d' e' f' \footnote #'(1 . 5) "This is a note on percent" RepeatSlash } \repeat percent 2 {c'4 d' e' f' \footnote #'(1 . 5) "This also" PercentRepeat} } It works only for