Re: Lilypond newbie can't compile

2017-05-20 Thread Urs Liska
Am 20. Mai 2017 18:53:54 MESZ schrieb David Wright : >On Sat 20 May 2017 at 18:26:40 (+0200), Jean Brefort wrote: >> Le samedi 20 mai 2017 à 11:18 -0500, David Wright a écrit : >> > Stable has more than one meaning. 2.18.2 has been stable for a long >> > time, and

Re: Lilypond newbie can't compile

2017-05-20 Thread David Wright
On Sat 20 May 2017 at 18:26:40 (+0200), Jean Brefort wrote: > Le samedi 20 mai 2017 à 11:18 -0500, David Wright a écrit : > > Stable has more than one meaning. 2.18.2 has been stable for a long > > time, and promises to be around a lot longer seeing that Debian's > > "stretch" (as yet unreleased)

Re: Lilypond newbie can't compile

2017-05-20 Thread Jean Brefort
Le samedi 20 mai 2017 à 11:18 -0500, David Wright a écrit : > Stable has more than one meaning. 2.18.2 has been stable for a long > time, and promises to be around a lot longer seeing that Debian's > "stretch" (as yet unreleased) still includes it. Debian Stretch currently does not include any

Re: Lilypond newbie can't compile

2017-05-20 Thread David Wright
On Sat 20 May 2017 at 18:38:24 (+1000), Andrew Bernard wrote: > I have used the development versions full time 8 hours plus a day for the > last few years, with only two trivial crashing bugs, on massively complex > scores. Stable has more than one meaning. 2.18.2 has been stable for a long time,

Re: Lilypond newbie can't compile

2017-05-20 Thread Manuela Gößnitzer
Ok I have made this experience, e.g. the grace-problem. Sometimes it seemed to me that I stumbled over every known Lilypond-bug ;-) and blamed it on me. As a newbie you think it is your fault, that does not depend on the Lilypond-Version. On the other hand you learn much about using Lilypond.

Re: Lilypond newbie can't compile

2017-05-20 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Robin, Would't it be great if instead of saying 'failed(1)' we could have a message saying 'unable to write to output file - file locked'. Especially since newbies are not generally able to read and remember all the details in the references, even though these may be obvious to old hands.

Re: Lilypond newbie can't compile

2017-05-20 Thread Robin Bannister
William Zeitler wrote: It fails to compile: Processing `C:/Users/william/Documents/Untitled.ly' Parsing... Interpreting music... Preprocessing graphical objects... Finding the ideal number of pages... Fitting music on 1 page... Drawing systems... Layout output to `Untitled.ps'... Converting

Re: Lilypond newbie can't compile

2017-05-20 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Richard, I have used the development versions full time 8 hours plus a day for the last few years, with only two trivial crashing bugs, on massively complex scores. Here the OP is using the so called stable version and it has crashed straight up. Andrew On 20 May 2017 at 18:11, Richard

Re: Lilypond newbie can't compile

2017-05-20 Thread Richard Shann
On Sat, 2017-05-20 at 10:05 +0200, Manuela Gößnitzer wrote: > Hi Andrew, > > > well, I think the Lilypond-Homepage should be updated so that the > latest "developer"-version is strongly recommanded. Compiling a > sourcefile is a batchjob, so where is the harm done when it crashes? > The harm

Re: Lilypond newbie can't compile

2017-05-20 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Manuela, The emphasis in my mail was on 7, not Windows. I wonder if there is an incompatibility with ghostscript and Windows 7, that being rather dated now? Andrew On 20 May 2017 at 18:05, Manuela Gößnitzer wrote: > Hi Andrew, > > well, I think the

Re: Lilypond newbie can't compile

2017-05-20 Thread Manuela Gößnitzer
Hi Andrew, well, I think the Lilypond-Homepage should be updated so that the latest "developer"-version is strongly recommanded. Compiling a sourcefile is a batchjob, so where is the harm done when it crashes? I use windows myself for several reasons (there is software that works on windows

Re: Lilypond newbie can't compile

2017-05-20 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Manuela, Well I think the reason newcomers use 2.18.2 is because the download page strongly asserts that this is the latest stable version. More experienced users find the development versions very stable, of course, but newcomers don't know that. The question that arises in my mind is why

Re: Lilypond newbie can't compile

2017-05-19 Thread Manuela Gößnitzer
Is there any particular reason why you use 2.18 and not 2.19? Don't be afraid of the term "unstable version", it works fine :-). I would advise you to use Frescobaldi http://lilypond.org/easier-editing.html as editor, this is a great help especially for new users. Greetings Manuela 2017-05-19

Lilypond newbie can't compile

2017-05-19 Thread William Zeitler
I've installed (and uninstalled/reinstalled) the current LilyPond (2.18.2-1) on Windows 7 (with all the latest updates). From the command line I'm compiling this example: \version "2.18.2" { c' c' c' c' } with this command: lilypond Untitled.ly It fails to compile: Processing