Re: Tuplet bracket padding at system ending

2023-12-24 Thread Gregory Evans
ur has changed recently, so > it's well worth checking the current beta. > > Paul > > > * From: * Gregory Evans > * To: * Lilypond-User Mailing List > * Sent: * 24/12/2023 14:03 > * Subject: * Tuplet bracket padding at system ending > > Hello, > I need some he

Re: Tuplet bracket padding at system ending

2023-12-24 Thread Paul Hodges
Subject: Tuplet bracket padding at system ending Hello, I need some help constructing a function. Lilypond seems to be relatively consistently applying less right padding to tuplet brackets at the end of a system. This causes tuplets in voices below the top of a score to collide with the barline

Tuplet bracket padding at system ending

2023-12-24 Thread Gregory Evans
Hello, I need some help constructing a function. Lilypond seems to be relatively consistently applying less right padding to tuplet brackets at the end of a system. This causes tuplets in voices below the top of a score to collide with the barline at the end of every system. I have attached an

Re: Where is my tuplet bracket?

2023-10-17 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG writes: >> \new Staff { >> \key c \minor >> < es' g' > < bes' d''~ >2. | >> \tuplet 3/2 \voices "",2 << { \voiceOne d''4 c'' es'' \oneVoice } \\ >>{ g'4 as'2 } >> >> < f' as' >4 | >> } > > Looks like a bug, so please file a report. The problem

Re: Where is my tuplet bracket?

2023-10-16 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> \new Staff { > \key c \minor > < es' g' > < bes' d''~ >2. | > \tuplet 3/2 \voices "",2 << { \voiceOne d''4 c'' es'' \oneVoice } \\ > { g'4 as'2 } >> > < f' as' >4 | > } Looks like a bug, so please file a report. Werner

Re: Where is my tuplet bracket?

2023-10-16 Thread David Kastrup
William Rehwinkel writes: >> On 10/16/23 19:09, David Kastrup wrote: >>> William Rehwinkel writes: >>> Dear David, This seems like an improper/unintended use of \tuplet. >>> How so? >>> How is >>>\tuplet 3/2 \voices "",2 << { \voiceOne d''4 c'' es'' \oneVoice } >>> \\ >>>

Re: Where is my tuplet bracket?

2023-10-16 Thread William Rehwinkel via LilyPond user discussion
I don't know, but what I meant to say is that this use of \tuplet outside of \voices or a split into multiple voices seems to me to be "undefined behavior" ("unspecified"?). -William On 10/16/23 19:09, David Kastrup wrote: William Rehwinkel writes: Dear David, This seems like an

Re: Where is my tuplet bracket?

2023-10-16 Thread David Kastrup
William Rehwinkel writes: > Dear David, > > This seems like an improper/unintended use of \tuplet. How so? How is \tuplet 3/2 \voices "",2 << { \voiceOne d''4 c'' es'' \oneVoice } \\ { g'4 as'2 } >> improper while \tuplet 3/2 << { \voiceOne d''4 c'' es''

Re: Where is my tuplet bracket?

2023-10-16 Thread William Rehwinkel via LilyPond user discussion
Dear David, This seems like an improper/unintended use of \tuplet. I would have used \scaleDurations instead. However, if you slightly modify the mwe as shown below, the tuplet bracket is shown. Thanks, -William \version "2.25.7" \new Staff { \key c \minor < es' g' >

Where is my tuplet bracket?

2023-10-16 Thread David Kastrup
\new Staff { \key c \minor < es' g' > < bes' d''~ >2. | \tuplet 3/2 \voices "",2 << { \voiceOne d''4 c'' es'' \oneVoice } \\ { g'4 as'2 } >> < f' as' >4 | } Admittedly, this is still better than the warning and crash an earlier version rather than current master puts out. But

Re: Annotated tuplet bracket

2023-05-28 Thread Gregory Evans
rim, your override is a good step in the right direction for me. > > So now I guess what I'm looking for is a way to query the tuplet bracket > for its direction while tweaking the tuplet number. > > Something like this? > > \version "2.25.5" > > #(

Re: Annotated tuplet bracket

2023-05-27 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le samedi 27 mai 2023 à 17:17 -0400, Gregory Evans a écrit : > Hi Everyone, > Yes Andrew, that excerpt is from Mahnkopf: good eye! > > Thanks Karim, your override is a good step in the right direction for me. > > So now I guess what I'm looking for is a way to query

Re: Annotated tuplet bracket

2023-05-27 Thread Gregory Evans
Hi Everyone, Yes Andrew, that excerpt is from Mahnkopf: good eye! Thanks Karim, your override is a good step in the right direction for me. So now I guess what I'm looking for is a way to query the tuplet bracket for its direction while tweaking the tuplet number. regards, greg On Sat, May 27

Re: Annotated tuplet bracket (Gregory Rowland Evans)

2023-05-27 Thread Karim Haddad
s > To: Jean Abou Samra > Cc: Lilypond-User Mailing List > Subject: Re: Annotated tuplet bracket > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi Jean, > In the attached image, notice the parenthesized note head above some of the > tuplet numbers.

Re: Annotated tuplet bracket

2023-05-27 Thread Andrew Bernard
Music for oboe by Mahnkopf?

Re: Annotated tuplet bracket

2023-05-27 Thread Gregory Rowland Evans
t is sometimes found in scores where >> tuplets are of uncommon duration (I can provide an incipt if necessary). I >> have seen the ratio of a tuplet bracket annotated with a parenthesized note >> head *above* the tuplet number when the bracket is up and *below* when the &g

Re: Annotated tuplet bracket

2023-05-27 Thread Jean Abou Samra
> Le 27 mai 2023 à 01:43, Gregory Evans a écrit > : > >  > Hello, > I am trying to imitate a notation that is sometimes found in scores where > tuplets are of uncommon duration (I can provide an incipt if necessary). I > have seen the ratio of a

Annotated tuplet bracket

2023-05-26 Thread Gregory Evans
Hello, I am trying to imitate a notation that is sometimes found in scores where tuplets are of uncommon duration (I can provide an incipt if necessary). I have seen the ratio of a tuplet bracket annotated with a parenthesized note head *above* the tuplet number when the bracket is up and *below

Re: Left-hand end of tuplet bracket sometimes wrong

2022-06-04 Thread Paul Hodges
From: Aaron Hill You would want to adjust the X-positions, so that the TupletNumber is centered properly.  See the difference: Thanks for the correction; I used shorten-pair, because in the internals it is clear that the effect is relative to the situation without it, which was easy to

Re: Left-hand end of tuplet bracket sometimes wrong

2022-06-03 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> I find that even using shorten-pair (with a negative first value) >> fails to do this as I expected. So now I don't know any way to >> print the bracket with the preferred layout... > > This looks like a bug. Please file an issue at > > https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/issues

Re: Left-hand end of tuplet bracket sometimes wrong

2022-06-03 Thread Thomas Morley
extent, so this is not a true replacement/fix. > > > -- Aaron Hill > Hi Aaron, I had a similar idea, though, not ignoring `ly:tuplet-bracket::calc-x-positions', but calculating correction values. Ofcourse it's more complicated. At least it works for broken TupletBracket as well:

Re: Left-hand end of tuplet bracket sometimes wrong

2022-06-03 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2022-06-03 10:10 am, Paul Hodges wrote: I find that even using shorten-pair (with a negative first value) fails to do this as I expected.  So now I don't know any way to print the bracket with the preferred layout... You would want to adjust the X-positions, so that the TupletNumber is

Re: Left-hand end of tuplet bracket sometimes wrong

2022-06-03 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I find that even using shorten-pair (with a negative first value) > fails to do this as I expected. So now I don't know any way to > print the bracket with the preferred layout... This looks like a bug. Please file an issue at https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/issues Werner

Re: Left-hand end of tuplet bracket sometimes wrong

2022-06-03 Thread Paul Hodges
I find that even using shorten-pair (with a negative first value) fails to do this as I expected.  So now I don't know any way to print the bracket with the preferred layout... Paul From: Paul Hodges To: Sent: 02/06/2022 0:05 Subject: Left-hand end of tuplet bracket

Re: Left-hand end of tuplet bracket sometimes wrong

2022-06-03 Thread Andrew Bernard
Dorico does this 'correctly', that is, according to those texts. See picture. Andrew Paul Hodges wrote on 2/06/2022 9:05 AM However, LilyPond doesn't always do this - instead, if the first note has an up-stem, the bracket is aligned with the stem instead.

Left-hand end of tuplet bracket sometimes wrong

2022-06-01 Thread Paul Hodges
Both Ross (p161) and Gould (p195) are completely clear when they say that the left hand end of a tuplet bracket aligns with the left-hand side of the first note. However, LilyPond doesn't always do this - instead, if the first note has an up-stem, the bracket is aligned with the stem instead

Re: quoted tuplet bracket within staff

2021-11-26 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan writes: > Hi David, > >> I admit that I went for another dive into the IR for TupletBracket when >> outside-staff-priority failed to do the trick. Turns out that >> outside-staff-interface should be #f by default anyway? > > Please elaborate: > You believe the default is

Re: quoted tuplet bracket within staff

2021-11-26 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 26/11/2021 à 16:19, Lukas-Fabian Moser a écrit : I never really understood the outside-staff behaviour, to be honest. If it seems complicated, that's because it is. There are two mechanisms for general collision avoidance, incarnated in the side-position-interface and the

Re: quoted tuplet bracket within staff

2021-11-26 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, > I admit that I went for another dive into the IR for TupletBracket when > outside-staff-priority failed to do the trick. Turns out that > outside-staff-interface should be #f by default anyway? Please elaborate: You believe the default is incorrect (in which case I will work up a

Re: quoted tuplet bracket within staff

2021-11-26 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan writes: > Hi all, > >>> I never really understood the outside-staff behaviour, to be >>> honest. It's well possible that there's an elegant solution that just >>> tells LilyPond to go ahead and put the tuplet bracket into the staff. >>

Re: quoted tuplet bracket within staff

2021-11-26 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> Well, you got the wrong property here. outside-staff-priority >> tells how to stack outside-staff objects with one another. What >> you need here is >> >> \override CueVoice.TupletBracket.staff-padding = ##f Aah, I only tried `padding` to no avail. Thanks a lot! > So, Werner, this

Re: quoted tuplet bracket within staff

2021-11-26 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all, >> I never really understood the outside-staff behaviour, to be >> honest. It's well possible that there's an elegant solution that just >> tells LilyPond to go ahead and put the tuplet bracket into the staff. > Uh, that's what setting outside-staff-pri

Re: quoted tuplet bracket within staff

2021-11-26 Thread Lukas-Fabian Moser
Well, you got the wrong property here. outside-staff-priority tells how to stack outside-staff objects with one another. What you need here is \override CueVoice.TupletBracket.staff-padding = ##f to stop TupletBracket from being shy of the staff itself, never mind other outside-staff

Re: quoted tuplet bracket within staff

2021-11-26 Thread David Kastrup
Lukas-Fabian Moser writes: >>> I never really understood the outside-staff behaviour, to be >>> honest. It's well possible that there's an elegant solution that just >>> tells LilyPond to go ahead and put the tuplet bracket into the staff. >> Uh, that's what set

Re: quoted tuplet bracket within staff

2021-11-26 Thread David Kastrup
t;> few minutes of not finding the right incantation… > > I never really understood the outside-staff behaviour, to be > honest. It's well possible that there's an elegant solution that just > tells LilyPond to go ahead and put the tuplet bracket into the staff. Uh, that's what setting

Re: quoted tuplet bracket within staff

2021-11-26 Thread Lukas-Fabian Moser
I never really understood the outside-staff behaviour, to be honest. It's well possible that there's an elegant solution that just tells LilyPond to go ahead and put the tuplet bracket into the staff. Uh, that's what setting outside-staff-priority to #f does. Did I mention I never really

Re: quoted tuplet bracket within staff

2021-11-26 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> For a general solution, one could probably write a callback for the >> positions property. > > I was hoping to use #'outside-staff-priority to try to allow the > tuplet to float into the staff automatically, [...] Me too. Werner

Re: quoted tuplet bracket within staff

2021-11-26 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>>\override CueVoice.TupletBracket.direction = #DOWN >>\override CueVoice.TupletBracket.edge-height = #'(-0.7 . -0.7) >>\override CueVoice.TupletBracket.extra-offset = #'(0 . 4.75) >>\override CueVoice.TupletNumber.extra-offset = #'(0 . 4.75) > > Hold the heavy machinery :-). You

Re: quoted tuplet bracket within staff

2021-11-26 Thread Lukas-Fabian Moser
understood the outside-staff behaviour, to be honest. It's well possible that there's an elegant solution that just tells LilyPond to go ahead and put the tuplet bracket into the staff. A poor man's automated solution might be: \version "2.23.4" x = { r2 \tuplet 3/2 { g4 a b } r2 \tuplet

Re: quoted tuplet bracket within staff

2021-11-26 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Lukas, > Hold the heavy machinery :-) LOL > You can just set the positions directly: Nice. > For a general solution, one could probably write a callback for the positions > property. I was hoping to use #'outside-staff-priority to try to allow the tuplet to float into the staff

Re: quoted tuplet bracket within staff

2021-11-26 Thread Lukas-Fabian Moser
Hi Kieren & Werner, There's surely a more elegant way… but if you're stuck, you can always hack it: x = { r2 \tuplet 3/2 { g4 a b } } \addQuote "qx" \x { r2 \cueDuring #"qx" #DOWN { \override CueVoice.TupletBracket.direction = #DOWN \override CueVoice.TupletBracket.edge-height =

Re: quoted tuplet bracket within staff

2021-11-26 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> What must I do to make the tuplet bracket be positioned within the >> staff, that is, below the rest? > > There's surely a more elegant way… but if you're stuck, you can > always hack it: [...] Thanks a lot! Of course I would like to have a solution that avoids `ex

Re: quoted tuplet bracket within staff

2021-11-26 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Werner, > What must I do to make the tuplet bracket be positioned > within the staff, that is, below the rest? There's surely a more elegant way… but if you're stuck, you can always hack it: x = { r2 \tuplet 3/2 { g4 a b } } \addQuote "qx" \x { r2 \cueDuring #"qx

quoted tuplet bracket within staff

2021-11-26 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Folks, plesae consider the following example. x = { r2 \tuplet 3/2 { g4 a b } } \addQuote "qx" \x { r2 \cueDuring #"qx" #DOWN { \override CueVoice.TupletBracket.direction = #UP r2 } } What must I do to make the tuplet b

Re: Tuplet bracket visibility seems to break something

2021-09-02 Thread Paul Hodges
Thanks - that sorts out a lot (and exposes another issue I'll write about separately!). In my many decades of programming I always had reservations about "syntactic sugar" - different ways of expressing the same thing. When the alternatives do not have the same behaviour at all times, they

Re: Tuplet bracket visibility seems to break something

2021-09-02 Thread Leo Correia de Verdier
The reason for it breaking is that in the code you posted there are vertical lines ” || " instead of backslashes ” \\ ” separating the voices. The bracket issue is that the override needs to go in a context where the tuples sees it. By default it goes into the Voice context here, and the << …

Tuplet bracket visibility seems to break something

2021-09-01 Thread Paul Hodges
In the following code, the first expression does more or less what I want; but I also want tuplet brackets. However, specifying that they are wanted, as in the second expression, seems to break stuff, and I have no idea why. In fact, it is simply the presence of the override which causes the

Re: Getting rid of omitted tuplet bracket warnings

2021-06-28 Thread Knute Snortum
Thanks guys, it looks like \scaleDurations is going to do what I want. -- Knute Snortum On Sun, Jun 27, 2021 at 8:57 AM Timothy Lanfear wrote: > On 27/06/2021 16:17, Knute Snortum wrote: > > > > My problem with it is it seems unnecessarily verbose. Also, this bass > > line continues for

Re: Getting rid of omitted tuplet bracket warnings

2021-06-27 Thread Timothy Lanfear
On 27/06/2021 16:17, Knute Snortum wrote: My problem with it is it seems unnecessarily verbose. Also, this bass line continues for dozens of measures, so I'd like to wrap it all in a \tuplet construct. Do I have to break up the tuplet in dozens of places just to avoid errors? Is there a better

Re: Getting rid of omitted tuplet bracket warnings

2021-06-27 Thread Lukas-Fabian Moser
me 4/4 \clef bass \omit TupletNumber \tuplet 3/2 4 { ef,8 ef'' g, << { df4 s8 ff4 s8 ef4 s8 } \\ { df8 ff' af, ff df' af ef df' g, } >> | } } %%% This will produce three "omitting tuplet bracket with neither left nor right bound&

Getting rid of omitted tuplet bracket warnings

2021-06-27 Thread Knute Snortum
4 { ef,8 ef'' g, << { df4 s8 ff4 s8 ef4 s8 } \\ { df8 ff' af, ff df' af ef df' g, } >> | } } %%% This will produce three "omitting tuplet bracket with neither left nor right bound" warnings. So, first question: should it? Is that code imprope

Re: Unwanted warning messages: omitting tuplet bracket

2019-11-14 Thread Peter Toye
Andrew, So it does. I wonder why. I don't really mind if invisible objects are grouped or not :) Thanks. Best regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com - Wednesday, November 13, 2019, 11:05:28 AM, Andrew Bernard wrote: > Hi Peter, > If you leave out the

Re: Unwanted warning messages: omitting tuplet bracket

2019-11-13 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Peter, If you leave out the 8 in the \tuplet 3/2 specification there is no issue. Would that be acceptable to you? Andrew % \language "english" { \omit TupletBracket \omit TupletNumber \clef "treble" \tuplet 3/2 { \repeat percent 4 {c'16 16 16 } } } { \omit

Re: Unwanted warning messages: omitting tuplet bracket

2019-11-13 Thread Peter Toye
Tuesday, November 12, 2019, 8:37:13 PM, Thomas Morley wrote: > Am Di., 12. Nov. 2019 um 20:09 Uhr schrieb > Peter Toye : >> The following MWEs both give errors saying that a tuplet bracket has neither >> a beginning nor an end. IN the first one this is presumably because

Re: Unwanted warning messages: omitting tuplet bracket

2019-11-12 Thread Thomas Morley
Am Di., 12. Nov. 2019 um 20:09 Uhr schrieb Peter Toye : > > The following MWEs both give errors saying that a tuplet bracket has neither > a beginning nor an end. IN the first one this is presumably because of the > percent repeat sign, and in the second because of the

Unwanted warning messages: omitting tuplet bracket

2019-11-12 Thread Peter Toye
The following MWEs both give errors saying that a tuplet bracket has neither a beginning nor an end. IN the first one this is presumably because of the percent repeat sign, and in the second because of the silent notes. But the brackets are explicitly omitted so IMO the warning message should

Re: have multiple voices under same tuplet bracket

2018-11-18 Thread Ryan Michael
uplet 4/3 { s4 g'4 } } \new Voice { \voiceFour \tuplet 4/3 { r4 g'8 d'8 } } >> On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 8:33 PM Ryan Michael wrote: > hello lilypond community, > I am trying to have sustained voices across a 4/3 eighth note tuplet > bracket. My desire is to simply have one tupl

have multiple voices under same tuplet bracket

2018-11-18 Thread Ryan Michael
hello lilypond community, I am trying to have sustained voices across a 4/3 eighth note tuplet bracket. My desire is to simply have one tuplet bracket which encloses each of the four voices as a single entity. Lilypond seems to discretize / assign tuplet brackets for each voice given the following

Re :warning: omitting tuplet bracket with neither left nor right bound

2018-06-10 Thread Karim Haddad
: Aaron Hill > To: lilypond-user@gnu.org > Subject: Re: warning: omitting tuplet bracket with neither left nor > right bound > Message-ID: <1e8a607c124931c608654bb162c79...@hillvisions.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > On 2018-06-09 1

Re: warning: omitting tuplet bracket with neither left nor right bound

2018-06-09 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2018-06-09 13:32, Karim Haddad wrote: Dear List, I have warnings when used along with a skip secondary voice used for dynamics and including tuplets. here is a minimal example : %% \version "2.19.80" one = { r4 c'2.~ | c'1 | c'2 r2 | } dyn = { s4 s2. \< | s4 \tuplet 3/2 {s4

warning: omitting tuplet bracket with neither left nor right bound

2018-06-09 Thread Karim Haddad
Dear List, I have warnings when used along with a skip secondary voice used for dynamics and including tuplets. here is a minimal example : %% \version "2.19.80" one = { r4 c'2.~ | c'1 | c'2 r2 | } dyn = { s4 s2. \< | s4 \tuplet 3/2 {s4 \! \> s8} s2 | s2 s2 \! |} \score {

Re: Tuplet bracket spacing with multiple voices

2018-05-04 Thread foxfanfare
I also agree with the suggestions, you should place two 8th rests instead. But in case you wished to know the solution for your initial layout problem, you could just put "\set tupletFullLength = ##t" before the lower tuplet! -- Sent from: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/User-f3.html

Re: Tuplet bracket spacing with multiple voices

2018-05-04 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 04.05.2018 16:18, Aaron Hill wrote: On 2018-05-04 13:47, Chris Yate wrote: The following might be the tidiest solution (i.e. just remove the number and brace). Other opinions welcome! If you wanted the keep the lower tuplet bracket, you could write two explicit eighth rests to line up

Re: Tuplet bracket spacing with multiple voices

2018-05-04 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2018-05-04 13:47, Chris Yate wrote: The following might be the tidiest solution (i.e. just remove the number and brace). Other opinions welcome! If you wanted the keep the lower tuplet bracket, you could write two explicit eighth rests to line up with the eighth notes above instead

Re: Tuplet bracket spacing with multiple voices

2018-05-04 Thread Chris Yate
et 3/2 { c8-. r4 } R1 }>> } } [image: image.png] On Fri, 4 May 2018 at 14:33 Chris Yate <chrisy...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi guys, > > This passage is a little tricky to write tidily on one staff, and I might > change the way this is done. But the placing of the low

Tuplet bracket spacing with multiple voices

2018-05-04 Thread Chris Yate
Hi guys, This passage is a little tricky to write tidily on one staff, and I might change the way this is done. But the placing of the lower tuplet bracket (covereing the quaver and crotchet rest) doesn't seem to help... \transpose f g { \relative c'{ << { r2 r4 \tuplet 3/2 { c8-.

Re: tuplet bracket spanner?

2018-05-02 Thread Noeck
his makes sense. In any case, it is connected to the default direction of the tuplets. The padding is only effective if the tuplet bracket is placed on the opposite side (not on the side of the beam as usual). \version "2.19.80" { \override TupletBracket.outside-staff-priorit

Re: tuplet bracket spanner?

2018-05-02 Thread Reilly Farrell
Thank you both! I appreciate the quick turnaround. If the difference in opinion persists I'll return with a minimal example, but in light of what you've told me I think we can just proceed as we are. On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 9:40 AM, Simon Albrecht wrote: > On 02.05.2018

Re: tuplet bracket spanner?

2018-05-02 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 02.05.2018 18:24, Reilly Farrell wrote: Hi All, I'm editing a short score with tuplets and I could use a spacing solution that would keep all tuplet brackets at a fixed minimum distance above the staff.  (Feedback I've received so far is that the tuplet indications look messy when printed

Re: tuplet bracket spanner?

2018-05-02 Thread David Kastrup
Reilly Farrell writes: > Hi All, > > I'm editing a short score with tuplets and I could use a spacing solution > that would keep all tuplet brackets at a fixed minimum distance above the > staff. (Feedback I've received so far is that the tuplet indications look >

tuplet bracket spanner?

2018-05-02 Thread Reilly Farrell
Hi All, I'm editing a short score with tuplets and I could use a spacing solution that would keep all tuplet brackets at a fixed minimum distance above the staff. (Feedback I've received so far is that the tuplet indications look messy when printed inside the staff rather than above it.) My

Re: Slur inside tuplet bracket

2017-04-25 Thread Andrew Bernard
is that, what you would naturally expect when telling the tuplet bracket to avoid the slur is that it should actually, ah, avoid the slur, yet it manifestly does not. So is this a bug or a defect or just bad behaviour in lilypond? What is really going here? I confess I have not done thorough searches

Re: Slur inside tuplet bracket

2017-04-25 Thread Manuela Gößnitzer
Sry, this was wrong, you wanted it the other way round. \version "2.19.48" { \override TupletBracket.avoid-slur = #'outside \shape #'((0 . -1.5) (0 . -1.5) (0 . -1.5) (0 . -1.5)) Slur \tuplet 5/4 { c''( bes' fis' d' ges') } } Greetings, Manuela 2017-04-25 8:17 GMT+02:00 Manuela Gößnitzer

Re: Slur inside tuplet bracket

2017-04-25 Thread Manuela Gößnitzer
Hi Andrew, the code you posted doesn't produce a bracket at all entered to lilybin.com Try this \version "2.19.48" { \override TupletBracket.avoid-slur = #'outside \shape #'((0 . 2) (0 . 2) (0 . 2) (0 . 2)) Slur \tuplet 5/4 { c''( bes' fis' d' ges') } } Greeting, Manuela 2017-04-25 7:25

Re: Slur inside tuplet bracket

2017-04-24 Thread Andrew Bernard
H Manuela, I did, naturally. The slur intersects the bracket, and commenting out the override you show produces the same result as having it. So I don't think this is the answer. Andrew On 25 April 2017 at 15:06, Manuela wrote: > Try this code: > > \version

Re: Slur inside tuplet bracket

2017-04-24 Thread Manuela
Try this code: \version "2.19.48" { \override TupletBracket.avoid-slur = #'outside \tuplet 5/4 { c''( bes' fis' d' ges') } } -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Slur-inside-tuplet-bracket-tp202613p202618.html Sent from the User mailing li

Slur inside tuplet bracket

2017-04-24 Thread Andrew Bernard
Why does this mess up? \version "2.19.59" { \override TupletNumber.avoid-slur = #'outside \tuplet 5/4 { c''( bes' fis' d' ges') } } How do you get a slur to go inside a tuplet bracket? Andrew ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-us

Re: Tuplet bracket

2017-04-14 Thread Michiel Sikma
nard: >> > Hi Michiel, >> > >> > Use shorten-pait to taste. >> > >> > %\once \override TupletBracket.positions = #'(3.1 . 3.4) >> > \once \override TupletBracket.shorten-pair = #'(0 . 0.5) >> >> Shouldn’t this be #'(0.

Re: Tuplet bracket

2017-04-14 Thread Andrew Bernard
) or similar but not #'(0 . 0.5) if you want > to shorten it at the left edge? > > Alternatively, instead of shortening the tuplet bracket, you could move > the notes by inserting > > \once \override Score.NoteColumn.X-offset = 0.6 > > (try different values) at this place. >

Re: Tuplet bracket

2017-04-14 Thread Malte Meyn
but not #'(0 . 0.5) if you want to shorten it at the left edge? Alternatively, instead of shortening the tuplet bracket, you could move the notes by inserting \once \override Score.NoteColumn.X-offset = 0.6 (try different values) at this place. > \tuplet 3/2 { >

Re: Tuplet bracket

2017-04-13 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Michiel, Use shorten-pait to taste. %\once \override TupletBracket.positions = #'(3.1 . 3.4) \once \override TupletBracket.shorten-pair = #'(0 . 0.5) \tuplet 3/2 { r32 \clef treble \once \override Slur.positions = #'(-1 . 1)

Tuplet bracket

2017-04-13 Thread Michiel Sikma
Hi there, I've got some code here: http://lilybin.com/i5sop1/1 I'm wondering if anyone knows of a way to get the second and third tuplet brackets in LH to be a bit further apart? They're very close together, I'd like to inject a tiny little space, but I haven't been able to figure out how. I

Re: tuplet bracket slope

2016-07-09 Thread Gilberto Agostinho
amazing how this makes an argument for kneed beams, so shunned by > most modern typesetters! I don't think I understand why this makes an argument for kneed beams, can't one can have the same slope for both a kneed beam and a non-kneed beam? Cheers! Gilberto -- View this message in co

Re: tuplet bracket slope

2016-07-09 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 09.07.2016 17:14, Gilberto Agostinho wrote: Andrew Bernard wrote What nonsense Gould writes here. I perceive duration in notation on any angle. The book is not always right in its justifications. I think what Gould means is that duration is notated in the x-axis of a staff, and so keeping

Re: tuplet bracket slope

2016-07-09 Thread Gilberto Agostinho
s, right? Anyway, I think I will bring this issue of tuplet angles to the bug squad as I think it's pretty clear we should have a max slope pre-defined. Cheers! Gilberto -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/tuplet-bracket-slope-tp192294p192444.html Sent from

Re: tuplet bracket slope

2016-07-06 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Gilberto, On 7 July 2016 at 3:07:25 AM, Gilberto Agostinho wrote: > Beam angles should not deviate far from the horizontal because the eye > perceives duration on the horizontal plane. What nonsense Gould writes here. I perceive duration in notation on any angle. The book is not always

Re: tuplet bracket slope

2016-07-06 Thread Gilberto Agostinho
ute anyway. Also, it would be great to have some way of forcing the brackets to be always horizontal, similar to what can be achieved with beams by using \override Beam.damping = #+inf.0 Cheers, Gilberto -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/tuplet-bracket-slo

tuplet bracket slope

2016-07-06 Thread Gilberto Agostinho
Hi all, I am wondering if the way LilyPond's tuplet bracket algorithm works is really ideal. It seems to me that the algorithm does not specify a maximum slope for the brackets, and can produce things like this: \version "2.19.37" { \tuplet 5/4 { <f'' c'''>16 d'4 }

Re: Tuplet bracket and cross staff

2016-06-26 Thread Thomas Morley
st say \tupletAngles 1 0 or similar and that's >>> all you need. Put it is a file tuplet-angles.ily and include it. Using >>> \tupletAngles 0 0 is very handy for straigthening up tuplets when you >>> don't want lilypond to angle them. >>> >>> Here it is. [

Re: Tuplet bracket and cross staff

2016-06-26 Thread David Nalesnik
gt; \tupletAngles 0 0 is very handy for straigthening up tuplets when you >> don't want lilypond to angle them. >> >> Here it is. [Surprised this is not more well known.] >> >> Andrew > > Looking in the archives: > http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/a

Re: Tuplet bracket and cross staff

2016-06-26 Thread matpen3@gmail
s not more well known.] >> >> Andrew > > Looking in the archives: > http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/angle-of-a-tuplet-bracket-td55019.html#a55023 > :) > > Reading it up gives some additional informations... > > Cheers, > Harm ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Tuplet bracket and cross staff

2016-06-26 Thread Thomas Morley
is. [Surprised this is not more well known.] > > Andrew Looking in the archives: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/angle-of-a-tuplet-bracket-td55019.html#a55023 :) Reading it up gives some additional informations... Cheers, Harm ___ lilypo

Re: Tuplet bracket and cross staff

2016-06-25 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Matteo, I have a tuplet angle function that somebody (I cannot recall who) sent me some time ago. I use it heavily and extensively and I can say it has been tested by me to the limit - it works well. Using this code you just say \tupletAngles 1 0 or similar and that's all you need. Put it is

Re: Tuplet bracket and cross staff

2016-06-25 Thread David Nalesnik
On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 5:15 PM, Simon Albrecht wrote: > On 25.06.2016 20:22, David Nalesnik wrote: >> >> On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 1:19 PM, David Nalesnik >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 11:50 AM, matpen3@gmail

Re: Tuplet bracket and cross staff

2016-06-25 Thread David Nalesnik
On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 1:19 PM, David Nalesnik wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 11:50 AM, matpen3@gmail wrote: >> Hi Stephen, >> >> I’m using now >> >> \once \override TupletBracket.rotation = #'(0.1 -120 0.1) But it is strange that the

Re: Tuplet bracket and cross staff

2016-06-25 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi, On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 11:50 AM, matpen3@gmail wrote: > Hi Stephen, > > I’m using now > > \once \override TupletBracket.rotation = #'(0.1 -120 0.1) > \offset Y-offset 1.5 TupletNumber > If you adjust the positions property of the TupletBracket, the number will follow

Re: Tuplet bracket and cross staff

2016-06-25 Thread matpen3@gmail
Hi Stephen, I’m using now \once \override TupletBracket.rotation = #'(0.1 -120 0.1) \offset Y-offset 1.5 TupletNumber Thanks, also to David > Il giorno 25 giu 2016, alle ore 18:20, Stephen MacNeil > ha scritto: > > can you share? > > Stephen

Re: Tuplet bracket and cross staff

2016-06-25 Thread Stephen MacNeil
can you share? Stephen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Tuplet bracket and cross staff

2016-06-25 Thread Stephen MacNeil
good to know Thanks Stephen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Tuplet bracket and cross staff

2016-06-25 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi, On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Stephen MacNeil wrote: > > \override TupletNumber.Y-offset = #(lambda (grob) (+ 1.5 > (ly:tuplet-number::calc-y-offset grob))) > \offset Y-offset 1.5 TupletNumber is equivalent -David

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