Re: weblily: security risk

2010-03-10 Thread Graham Percival
. Quite cool: I modified the notation reference: When you click on one of the examples, it will be opened in weblily.net's editor. Cheers, Weblily ** On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: Mr. Weblily, I like your enthusiasm with your weblily

Re: weblily: security risk

2010-03-10 Thread Graham Percival
I apologize for this email; I jumped to a false conclusion and made a baseless accusation. I now have no reason to believe that weblily poses a risk. I'm sorry. - Graham Percival On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 08:21:24PM +, Graham Percival wrote: Mr. Weblily, I like your enthusiasm with your

Re: Problem with initial grace note

2010-03-08 Thread Graham Percival
Yes, read the warning at the bottom of the doc page about grace notes. Cheers, - Graham On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 04:07:43PM -0600, Patrick Karl wrote: When I compile the following: \version 2.12.2 S = \relative g'' { \appoggiatura g16 f1 } \score { \new ChoirStaff

Re: Problem with initial grace note

2010-03-08 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 05:12:20PM -0600, Patrick Karl wrote: On 8 Mar 2010 22:44:02 Graham Percival wrote: This can be remedied by inserting grace skips of the corresponding durations in the other staves. Since I don't have any other staves, how does this note apply to my case? Read

Re: a \new Score question

2010-03-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 07:46:28AM +0100, Werner LEMBERG wrote: This helps a lot, thanks! Note, however, since this file will eventually be part of the documentation, that far too much lines are longer than 80 or so characters, causing ugly formatting especially within the PDF doc files.

Re: pointAndClickOff in a book file

2010-03-05 Thread Graham Percival
FFS everybody. Federico: omit point-and-click from your music definition files. Then make violin-score.ly cello-score.ly all-book.ly which just include your point-and-click NETURAL music definition files. In the -score files, put your \score and enable point-and-click and the top of it.

Re: can't change the style of the timesignatures

2010-03-05 Thread Graham Percival
Why not use \numericTimeSignature ? See the 2.12 doc page about Time signature. Cheers, - Graham On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Stefan Thomas kontrapunktste...@googlemail.com wrote: Dear community, I don't understand, why this snippet doesn't work: \version 2.12.2 \layout {    

Re: is \partial counted as a bar?

2010-03-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 01:32:41AM +0800, Seng Hin Yew wrote: I'm having a problem that lilypond will exclude the \partial bar in bar counting. This \partial i meant was the first bar of a score. How to make LP calculate it as a first bar? This is not typical notation, but if you want

Re: is \partial counted as a bar?

2010-03-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 02:55:29AM +0800, Seng Hin Yew wrote: On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: (I'm not 100% about the exact syntax, nor whether you want to start at bar 1 or bar 2, but that's the basic idea) I'm copying

Re: Lyrics across multi-voice sections

2010-03-02 Thread Graham Percival
Sorry for the long quoted text. On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 03:59:07PM +0100, Mats Bengtsson wrote: James Bailey wrote: This is basically what confuses people. No, it's not any different than what's explained elsewhere, it's just that it's not explained all together. All of the consituent

Re: Lilypond-book and xelatex [was: Re: Lilypond-book not working after installing Python 3]

2010-03-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 01:21:21PM +0100, Joseph Wakeling wrote: Graham Percival wrote: It would also be a great opportunity to include an option for alternative TeX-compilers, e.g. xelatex, not just pdflatex. Patches appreciated. Do you have a rough estimate of the challenges

Re: Lilypond-book not working after installing Python 3

2010-03-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 01:52:26PM +0100, Joseph Wakeling wrote: Graham Percival wrote: Not in this case. Well, the point is that at least 1 user made the mistake of trying to get LP to use the 'latest' Python -- maybe worth adding a line or two mentioning not to do this and explaining why

Re: Programming error message

2010-02-28 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 09:36:34AM +0100, Werner LEMBERG wrote: Perhaps it makes sense to add a UTF-8 checker to lilypond just for that. This would certainly cut down on the number of questions asking how do I write an accented character?. OTOH, it might prompt confusion about how to save

Re: Wikitex security

2010-02-26 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 12:23:36PM +0100, Federico Bruni wrote: I'm wondering if the Wikitex extension for Mediawiki is a secure alternative to the LilyPond extension. http://wikisophia.org/wiki/Wikitex (as you can see, there is an Edit button... it is open to public

Re: Lilypond-book not working after installing Python 3

2010-02-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 11:16:05PM +0100, Sven Siegmund wrote: Uninstall python 3, as it can override library paths. But I really need Python 3. It is much more unicode-aware than Python 2.x. Is there any hope that Lilypond-book will be ported to python 3? Patches appreciated. Python 3

Re: Lilypond vs Score

2010-02-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 05:22:07PM +0100, Helge Kruse wrote: Reading this discussion makes me curious about SCORE. Do I have the chance to try SCORE somehow? Sure, for $750 or so. I don't know where the webpage is to order it, but I'm sure it can't be too hard to find. Cheers, - Graham

Re: ly to musicXML converter

2010-02-21 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 01:41:46PM +, Ami wrote: Is there a file format converter from ly to musicXML or ly to Finale ETF? No. Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: Output only certain bars

2010-02-19 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 8:03 AM, O Polite myli...@polite.se wrote: Thanks. I was rather looking for some way to manipulate the entire score programmatically. But maybe it's easier to export to midi and then manipulate the midi file programmatically? Are you asking how can I extract fragments

Re: Doc suggestion for Right Hand Fingering

2010-02-19 Thread Graham Percival
Thanks, this was added by Colin. It should be visible in 2.13.14 when that comes out. Cheers, - Graham On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Federico Bruni brunol...@gmx.com wrote: I have a suggestion to make doc even more straightforward. In NR 2.4.1 (section Right-hand fingerings)

Re: lilypond tool and MidiInput

2010-02-18 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 3:44 AM, Peter Chubb pe...@chubb.wattle.id.au wrote: Graham == Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: Graham On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Peter Chubb Graham lily.u...@chubb.wattle.id.au wrote: Trevor == Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk writes: Trevor

Re: lilypond tool and MidiInput

2010-02-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 11:03:48PM +0100, Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote: David Santamauro wrote: What is the status (if any) of LilyPondTool MIDI output? Is there any Hi, LilyPondTool is not, but LilyPond IS developed in that direction. However, there is much work to do, and you

Re: lilypond tool and MidiInput

2010-02-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Peter Chubb lily.u...@chubb.wattle.id.au wrote: Trevor == Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk writes: Trevor Peter's original announcement, with articulate.ly and some Trevor instructions for its use is at Trevor

Re: lilypond tool and MidiInput

2010-02-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 12:48 AM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: huh.  lilypond.org seems to be down at the moment, so I'll just describe it: on the new webpage, click on Community, then Development, then documentation suggestions. Sorry, my memory was faulty. That should

Re: Mailing Subject Format Inquiry

2010-02-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 5:01 AM, Steven White saw7...@cacs.louisiana.edu wrote: Just an inquiry, but is there any specific reason why the mailing list doesn't have a prepended subject like [lilypond-user]? That would make all the subject lines much longer. On some displays, this wouldn't be a

LilyPond Report will be returning; submissions

2010-02-10 Thread Graham Percival
Hi all, Valentin and I are bringing back the LilyPond Report. The current plan is one issue every two months. If more people get involved, we might make it once a month. I'm not going to bother with any of the cutesy fun stuff like snippets, interviews, postcards, statistics... or pretty much

Re: Lilypond to MusicXML (was: Re: New Sibelius to LilyPond conversion suite)

2010-02-08 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 10:45:58AM +0100, Martin Tarenskeen wrote: But the main problem remains: Lilypond developers are also very happy Lilypond users, which could explain the lack of motivation to put a lot of time and effort exporting to a format that only people who do NOT use

Re: Lilypond to MusicXML (was: Re: New Sibelius to LilyPond conversion suite)

2010-02-07 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Feb 06, 2010 at 07:12:59PM +0100, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: However, there is also a practical problem: How do you check the quality of your export? There are so many things in the MusicXML specification that are left unclear, and the typical advice on the MusicXML mailing list is Just

Re: Re: RemoveEmptyRhythmicStaffContext doesn't work

2010-02-07 Thread Graham Percival
I believe that those must be in *separate* \layout { \context{ blocks. Cheers, - Graham On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 05:33:22AM +0800, 胡海鹏 - Hu Haipeng wrote: Ha, thanks. But I'm not so stupid. Of course I have \layout { \context { \RemoveEmptyStaffContext

Re: Lilypond to MusicXML (was: Re: New Sibelius to LilyPond conversion suite)

2010-02-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Feb 06, 2010 at 04:18:54PM +0100, Martin Tarenskeen wrote: Could this also be true for Lilypond ? Would it be better/easier to have a --musicxml output option ( just like --png --ps and --pdf ) instead of a separate application that has to be written from scratch ? Maybe then the

Re: PDF vs HTML links

2010-02-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com wrote: Those links should point to http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/snippets/fretted-strings http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/internals/strokefinger I believe this is now fixed in git. Cheers, -

Re: RemoveEmptyStaffContext erases previous setting

2010-02-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Reinhold Kainhofer reinh...@kainhofer.com wrote: I found out the hard way that apparently adding \RemoveEmptyStaffContext globally to a score will erase some previous settings. Yes. \removeEmptyStaffContext copies the new context over the previous one. Or

Re: Rehearsal marks

2010-02-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Feb 06, 2010 at 12:04:04AM +, Werner wrote: I think there should be a link in NR 1.2.5 Bars [1.2.5.4] Rehearsal marks to NR 5.5.1 Aligning Objects [5.5.1.4] Using the break-alignable-interface Otherwise its hard to find! That sounds reasonable. James? Btw - why not one

Re: polymetric parts - ???BUG???

2010-02-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Feb 06, 2010 at 12:17:56AM +, Werner wrote: Playing around I found out, that it doesn't work if there are the lines \context { \RemoveEmptyStaffContext % \context { \AncientRemoveEmptyStaffContext \override VerticalAxisGroup #'remove-first = ##t } } in the

Re: RemoveEmptyStaffContext erases previous setting

2010-02-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Feb 05, 2010 at 06:20:23PM +0100, Mats Bengtsson wrote: If would be pedagogically simpler to realize this difference if the syntax was separate if you define a context from scratch (as is the case with \RemoveEmptyStaffContext) or if it's defined by adding onto an existing context. For

Re: Where are error messages explained?

2010-02-04 Thread Graham Percival
In the 2.13 docs, it's in Usage 1.3 Error messages. Cheers, - Graham On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Patrick Karl pck...@mac.com wrote: Message: 5 Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 21:42:55 -0700 From: Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu Subject: Re: Editing notes in a separate file To:

Re: Lilypond on iPhone

2010-02-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 08:53:22PM +, Dave Addey wrote: 1) How do you rate my chances of getting Lilypond to compile for the ARM-based iPhone OS, especially given the number of libraries it depends on? Compiling on an ARM-based chip? No problem. Debian's been compiling lilypond

Re: New Sibelius to LilyPond conversion suite

2010-02-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 04:03:17PM -0800, Patrick McCarty wrote: On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Michael Good music...@gmail.com wrote: It is unfortunate that LilyPond users cannot take advantage of the same data freedom that Finale and Sibelius users can. I agree that it is unfortunate

Re: Rehearsal marks

2010-02-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 08:34:14PM -0500, Brett McCoy wrote: I've read in a few places -- including the Lilypond documentation -- that, traditionally, when using rehearsal marks in a score, the letter I is skipped. Does anyone know why this is done? I'm pretty certain it's because I is easy to

Re: String number collision

2010-02-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 07:42:18PM -0600, Bobber wrote: David Stocker wrote: Your example works as is in 2.13.11, with the string number indications appearing above the beams of the notes. I'm using the 2.12 stable branch. Is 2.13.11 mostly usable? 2.13.12 (not yet released) has 17

Re: pid leakage in LilyPond

2010-02-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 09:18:44AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Patrick Karl pck...@mac.com writes: I have noticed a resource problem in LilyPond, namely invocation of the Compile/Typeset file command in interactive mode always consumes one more pid. You are obviously not talking about

Re: Printing entire score on 1 line

2010-02-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 1:15 PM, pat eyler pat.ey...@gmail.com wrote: I've looked over the lilypond doc output by denemo, and can't see anything obvious.  We're running lilypond  2.12.2 on Ubuntue 9.10. MvmntIVoiceI =  {          r8. e'2%| This is an incomplete bar. If the bar-line check

Re: Speed tips, again, for extremely large scores?

2010-02-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 12:37:42PM -, Trevor Daniels wrote: Mats Bengtsson wrote Monday, February 01, 2010 11:52 AM Martin Tarenskeen wrote: On Mon, 1 Feb 2010, Michael Kappler wrote: I'm also still very interested if there are possibilities to increase LilyPond performance further.

Re: Sibelius conversion - sib2ly

2010-02-01 Thread Graham Percival
Please stop spamming. We saw your first email. - Graham On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 10:01:55PM -0800, Kirill Sidorov wrote: This concoction of mine might be of interest to some: http://www.sidorefa.com/sib2ly/ To my best knowledge, this tool is substantially more powerful than other

Re: git, webgit

2010-02-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Patrick Karl pck...@mac.com wrote: Thanks for the report.  I've fixed this in git.  Look at the docs in webgit first, and glance at the contributor's guide. What are git and webgit?  Where should I have learned that?

Re: pid leakage in LilyPond

2010-02-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 10:36:46PM +0100, James Bailey wrote: On 01.02.2010, at 21:27, Patrick Karl wrote: When I enter music, I incrementally compile it as I go. I do my work on a Mac running OS 10.4. There are a fixed number of pids available for all the programs running on the Mac.

Re: Lilypond vs Score

2010-02-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 03:57:49PM -0600, Bobber wrote: I have been having a discussion with a small publisher who uses the music manuscript program called Score. He says that neither Lilypond or Finale can produce engraving that is comparable to Score. And that most of the major music

Re: indexing the docs

2010-01-31 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 08:26:21PM -0700, Hugh Myers wrote: What mechanism creates the index(s) for the documentation? Texinfo. Somebody adds @cindex to the docs, and texinfo prints the page of that entry. If you want to add/move @cindex entries, we can talk. Look at the docs in webgit first,

Re: Colliding articulation with beam

2010-01-27 Thread Graham Percival
It's probably already in the tracker. I wouldn't bother submitting it. Cheers, - Graham On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 08:20:07PM +0100, Jean-Alexis Montignies wrote: Hi, Should I submit the following as a bug? As a work around I would like to add more space between the chords and the system.

Re: RE; Re nesting curves getting closer

2010-01-23 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 12:39:51AM +0100, Gilles Sadowski wrote: IMHO, perfect would be to *attach* a complete lilypond file, so that people Well, IMO, it's better to have a short file in the body of the email. Because that way I can look at it and identify errors without having to

Re: Understanding spacers err.. spacing

2010-01-22 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 05:56:25PM -0500, James Lowe wrote: I had been trying to get a fermata to align centrally over the last bar which is just a full rest (yes I know it makes no sense musically but anyway..) I had been struggling. ... R1^\fermata Might I recommend looking in the index of

Re: Understanding spacers err.. spacing

2010-01-22 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 06:10:11PM -0500, James Lowe wrote: I guess I was trying to illustrate what I thought was an inconsistency or unexpected behaviour for the spacer as I often use this method to manually align things like hairpins for instance, or the odd dotted line text spanner when I

Re: Incorrect Lilypond version

2010-01-20 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 06:00:22PM +0100, Federico Bruni wrote: On 20/01/2010 15:55, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: Probably you've another version installed. Check which lilypond and the install path! I've often wondered why, even though I have a version of LilyPond installed from repository

Re: Missing graphic files

2010-01-20 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:12:25AM -0600, Patrick Karl wrote: In any case, I would like to suggest that there are only two reasonable responses to my request: * resurrect the missing graphic files * delete the Guide for the Absolute Beginner My opinion is to delete it, but I'm not in

Re: svg output

2010-01-18 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Dmytro O. Redchuk brownian@gmail.com wrote: У сб, 2010-01-16 у 15:33 +, Graham Percival пише: It would be nice if somebody could check the regtest comparison... it's too late to recall 2.13.11 if it broke anything, but if it *did* break something

Re: svg output

2010-01-18 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 04:27:26PM +0200, Dmytro O. Redchuk wrote: For instance: In the ancient-accidental.ly regtest, the accidentals for hufnagel and **MENSURAL** look exactly the same. Shouldn't they be different? I don't know actually. Well, ignore any regtests that you have no clue

Re: Does the lovely Introduction to the 2.12 LM exist in 2.13?

2010-01-18 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:41:54PM -0800, Patrick Horgan wrote: I saw one document issue I thought I might bring up with the editors, so checked the 2.13 LM to see if it was already dealt with before I bothered people with something that had already been fixed. To my surprise, I

Re: problem with accents

2010-01-17 Thread Graham Percival
Make sure you save the file in utf-8 format. Cheers, - Graham On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Battista Lonardi batti_ls...@yahoo.it wrote: I'm using version 2.12.1. If I put an accented vowels (such as à, è, ì, ò, ù) in a .ly file, the PDF output doesn't show it at all.

Re: svg output

2010-01-16 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 2:56 PM, David Raleigh Arnold d...@openguitar.com wrote: On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 20:09:36 + Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: new feature (*cough* bugfix) What does that mean? It means that the SVG update introduced, and relied on, so many architectural

Re: svg output

2010-01-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 02:51:19PM -0500, David Raleigh Arnold wrote: Thanks. So the answer is no. I thought bugfixes were applied to stable releases. That is correct. I will not backport this new feature (*cough* bugfix) because I am a mean and lazy person and I hate all users. Hopefully

Re: Using my local font for the title

2010-01-14 Thread Graham Percival
Have you read input/regression/gonville.ly ? Also, you might want to consider adding some kind of docs about this. Cheers, - Graham On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 04:10:23PM -0500, James Lowe wrote: Hello, This maybe inappropriate, but can I use this method to use a different font for the

Re: Staff Tab notation support?

2010-01-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 10:28:25PM -0700, Carl Sorensen wrote: On 1/10/10 9:43 PM, Eric Knapp ekn...@gmail.com wrote: I'm in! What's first? I assume that I have a lot of reading to do. I just downloaded all the 2.13 manuals. I have read most of them for 2.12. The links for the Extend

Re: lilypond-book question

2010-01-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 10:35:07AM +0100, James Bailey wrote: I have a question. Given this input file: \documentclass[a4paper]{article} \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} What;s the pdftex doing in there? \begin{document} \begin{lilypond} \relative c' { c2 a'2 \times 2/3 { f8 e d } c'2 g4

Re: lilypond-book question

2010-01-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 10:57:41AM +0100, James Bailey wrote: On 05.01.2010, at 10:38, Graham Percival wrote: On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 10:35:07AM +0100, James Bailey wrote: I have a question. Given this input file: \documentclass[a4paper]{article} \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} What;s

Re: Editing notes in a separate file

2010-01-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 12:22:27PM -0500, Kieren MacMillan wrote: If someone with real Scheme-fu could build a function that took a series of moments and tweaks, you might be able to do something like ms = \relative e'' { e4 e c d | } correctionsEditionA = { \coolSchemeFunction

Re: not able to install lil ypond 2.12.2after ¨invalid?conversion ¨ on Ububtu 9.10

2009-12-31 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 08:12:49PM +, Tom Haring wrote: It is aqbout the problem i have: how should I use it? First, you're trying to compile lilypond 2.12.2, not install it. If you just want to install it, download the binary. Second, if you really want to compile for some reason, compile

Re: sustainOff apparantly does not seem to work in bracket style

2009-12-22 Thread Graham Percival
at 07:02:40PM +0100, stefankaegi wrote: I'm sorry, but it isn't really possible to demonstrate my problem when I make my example shorter. Best wishes, Stefan Am Dienstag, den 22.12.2009, 00:33 + schrieb Graham Percival: Please send a tiny example. http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13

LilyPond 2.12.3 released!

2009-12-21 Thread Graham Percival
We are happy to announce the release of LilyPond 2.12.3. This version contains the long-awaited fix for our GUI on MacOS X 10.5 and 10.6. In addition to the GUI fixes, this version contains dozens of bugfixes backported from the unstable development version. We recommend that all users upgrade

Re: sustainOff apparantly does not seem to work in bracket style

2009-12-21 Thread Graham Percival
Please send a tiny example. http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/web/tiny-examples Cheers, - Graham On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 01:12:26AM +0100, stefankaegi wrote: Hi It seems I have a problem with pedal in bracket style. Please check out the files I send with this mail. Actually there

Re: GUI

2009-12-20 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Mats Bengtsson mats.bengts...@ee.kth.se wrote: - At http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/web/learning#Learning, I find the formulation in Read it: read this manual in the same format as this one. very confusing. I'm trying to explain the difference

Re: Very very slow Lilypond uninstall on Windows

2009-12-20 Thread Graham Percival
Are you sure? This problem was fixed recently; numerous people reported that it worked well, and nobody said that it didn't work. What version, exactly, are you using? - Graham On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 12:20:08PM -0800, aliteralmind wrote: Actually, no. It was to uninstall the LATEST version

Re: Very very slow Lilypond uninstall on Windows

2009-12-20 Thread Graham Percival
) ) -- From: Graham Percival Sent: Sun 20/12/2009 20:26 To: aliteralmind Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Very very slow Lilypond uninstall on Windows Are you sure? This problem was fixed recently

windows instructions

2009-12-19 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 07:38:01PM +0100, Mats Bengtsson wrote: Actually, the current installation instructions are almost over-emphasized on the current web page. These steps are the same as for almost any other Windows application so I'm not convinced we need to comment on them. That's

warnings on the website

2009-12-19 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 07:38:01PM +0100, Mats Bengtsson wrote: Think of a Windows user who wants to try LilyPond. She will click on Download, quickly locate the Windows logo and click on that and probably miss the Note: ... at the top of this intermediate page. Good point; I've added the

download pages

2009-12-19 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 07:38:01PM +0100, Mats Bengtsson wrote: At the Windows download page, I would propose to remove all the current information, except the link to the installer, and replace it by the nice introduction with screen-shots. At the bottom of the page, you can add links

Re: Distance from bottom stave to footer

2009-12-19 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 08:09:26AM +1100, Nick Payne wrote: The foot-separation variable that can be used in the \paper block doesn't seem to have any effect. It's documented in the 2.13.9 NR as: Yes, we know. The spacing variables have changed. No, the documentation hasn't been updated

Re: GUI

2009-12-18 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 09:34:26AM +0100, Valentin Villenave wrote: On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: No.  The alternate input page is extremely easy to find. With all due respect, you may be missing the point here. I haven't missed the point

Re: GUI

2009-12-18 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 09:32:50PM -0800, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: If you can suggest an improvement, especially in the Introduction pages, please do. LilyPondTool, Frescobaldi, Emacs and Vim are listed under Alternate Input. Since this link is to the right of Text Input, the implication

Re: GUI

2009-12-18 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 09:59:17AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Kees van den Doel kvand...@shaw.ca writes: Of course there is nothing really wrong with the current website. Most people will want to just download lilypond and try it out; who has time to read all the crap on a product's

Re: clarinet tab?

2009-12-18 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 10:41:00AM +0100, Gilles THIBAULT wrote: Does anybody know anything more about this issue? Does some piece of software need an upgrade? Well, i have never understood why the LSR cannot compile the snippet ( http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=615 ) . I supposed that

Re: GUI

2009-12-18 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 01:00:57AM -0800, -Eluze wrote: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/web/development#Development http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/web/development#Development on this page clicking *Manuals* in the top note leads to the 2.12.2 manuals, whereas

Re: GUI

2009-12-18 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 10:36:57AM +0100, Francisco Vila wrote: 2009/12/18 Federico Bruni brunol...@gmx.com: Il 18/12/2009 00:57, Graham Percival ha scritto: Pretend that you've never heard of lilypond.  Does the webpage answer the questions, or present the information, that you wanted

Re: GUI

2009-12-18 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 10:47:26AM +0100, Francisco Vila wrote: 2009/12/18 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: Hmm, on second thought, what about calling it Easier editing? That alliterates, so it gets a 20% bonus to its attractiveness. :) I often call them Improved Environments

Re: GUI

2009-12-18 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 12:04:05PM +0100, Mats Bengtsson wrote: Quoting Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: Thanks, I missed that! I'll add this to my TODO. I hope you also know that you end up at the 2.13 manual if you click on the quick link to the Manuals 2.12.2 on the main page

Re: GUI

2009-12-17 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Valentin Villenave v.villen...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) lilypondt...@organum.hu wrote: I would like to see options on the download page: - Download LilyPond with LilyPondTool (needs Java installed) -

Re: GUI

2009-12-17 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Kees van den Doel kvand...@shaw.ca wrote: From: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Valentin Villenave No.  The alternate input page is extremely easy to find. recommended editors are right at the top of that page

Re: GUI

2009-12-17 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 05:47:49PM -0600, Tim McNamara wrote: On Dec 17, 2009, at 2:48 PM, Graham Percival wrote: On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Kees van den Doel kvand...@shaw.ca wrote: Of course, most people do not know what an editor is, except as some guy that puts articles

Re: Adding space before a group of 4 16th notes

2009-12-16 Thread Graham Percival
Add space with an invisible rest: s4 or s2 Text below staff: the cheap way is c4_text. Both are fairly easy to find the docs. Cheers, - Graham On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Fredrik Carlén norderg...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! I am trying to mimick the appearance of the -- for drummers --

Re: No Work!

2009-12-15 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Federico Bruni brunol...@gmx.com wrote: Il 15/12/2009 12:22, Philip Potter ha scritto: Please keep all discussion on list - the easiest way to do this is to click Reply All and ensure that lilypond-user@gnu.org is in the To: or Cc: list. I recently realized

Re: Vertical spacing in 2.13

2009-12-15 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Reinhold Kainhofer reinh...@kainhofer.com wrote: Am Dienstag, 15. Dezember 2009 00:56:16 schrieb Joe Neeman: Thanks for the reminder; I still need to rewrite these sections. Plus, we need convert-ly rules! http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=911

Re: GUI (was: Re: No Work!

2009-12-15 Thread Graham Percival
Yes, it does have a gui. However, this gui is broken in 2.12.2. I've been working on 2.12.3 for a while. I could have released 2.12.3 literally MONTHS ago if more people helped with lilypond development. Remember, when I'm working on the website text or documentation issues, I'm not working on

Re: GUI (was: Re: No Work!

2009-12-15 Thread Graham Percival
Yes, that is exactly what we already have. Screenshots are here: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/learning/macos-x - Graham On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:11 PM, Kees van den Doel kvand...@shaw.ca wrote:  I was thinking of something utterly trivial with as few features as possible

Re: LilyPond 2.13.9 released

2009-12-12 Thread Graham Percival
As mentioned in the release message, users are strongly recommended to use 2.12.2, not 2.13. We will let you know when we think that 2.13.x is ready for users to test. Cheers, - Graham 2009/12/12 胡海鹏 - Hu Haipeng hhpmu...@163.com: Sorry, Since the bad frustrating Midi tie problem persists, I

LilyPond 2.13.9 released

2009-12-11 Thread Graham Percival
LilyPond 2.13.9 is now out. From 2.13.9 onwards, LilyPond is licensed under the GNU GPL v3+ for code, and the GNU FDL 1.3+ for documentation. In addition to the usual round of bugfixes, this release adds a shortcut for repeated chords. Please note that the 2.13 series is an UNSTABLE DEVELOPMENT

Re: parallelMusic and repeat

2009-12-07 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 11:08:46AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Maybe one would need a standard test suite template with multiple voices, input methods, repeats and midi output, and any new feature that gets moved into core needs to get this template expanded into the test suite, and every test

Re: problem with changePitch,

2009-12-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 03:16:37AM +0100, Valentin Villenave wrote: On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 2:19 AM, Alexander Kobel n...@a-kobel.de wrote: In exchange, I just did the finishing touches on the following two snippets: :-)  http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=650  

Re: tom tom staff

2009-12-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 07:50:32AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: 胡海鹏 - Hu Haipeng hhpmu...@163.com writes: Then here's a visual problem: When I set the line-count to 3, will the clef position 0 be the middle line? Wouldn't trying it out help? That's easy for people who can see, but

Re: broken link

2009-12-03 Thread Graham Percival
This list is fine, although technically I guess the bug-lilypond list is the best place. We're working on the website build system issues, so hopefully the link will be fixed soon. Cheers, - Graham On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 09:24:20PM -0700, Hugh Myers wrote: The link to Building documentation

Re: [frogs] Re: format-mark-* Was: \set vs \override

2009-12-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 03:41:06PM -0700, Carl Sorensen wrote: On 12/2/09 2:58 PM, Mats Bengtsson mats.bengts...@ee.kth.se wrote: Because it's too many things to list in the body of the NR. We try to keep the body of the NR as short as feasible, and put exhaustive lists in the

collatoral damage / regressions (was: page break failure)

2009-12-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 05:33:55AM -0700, Hugh Myers wrote: Hadn't realized that a policy of collateral damage was allowed. Given your approach to testing (and your experience) this should work as well as more conservative approaches. As Alexander wrote, it's not so much that collateral

Re: page break failure

2009-12-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 09:57:00PM -0700, Hugh Myers wrote: Pardon the length of the piece of code, but clearly demonstrates the problem where as other pieces don't (got to be a page long for instance...): \version 2.13.7 I hope that you realize that 2.13.7 is an UNSTABLE, DEVELOPMENT

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