Re: Any other Thunderbird users have messages never post? (WAS: Hide slur?)

2017-12-14 Thread Bob Proulx
Ian Kelling wrote: > I looked into the missing mail, couldn't find it. Thanks for looking into this problem. > Please report any future missing emails. Usually we can figure it > out. Seconded. If you are having problems with any of the mailing lists please report it. There are 1,500+ mailing

Re: Any other Thunderbird users have messages never post? (WAS: Hide slur?)

2017-12-14 Thread Ian Kelling
Bob Proulx writes: > I have been reading the thread about lost emails to the list. Perhaps > I can help communicate the goings on that happens out of sight. This > message is a little long. If not interested in how email and mailing > lists work then please feel free to skip

Re: Any other Thunderbird users have messages never post? (WAS: Hide slur?)

2017-10-26 Thread Knut Petersen
Am 25.10.2017 um 05:58 schrieb Bob Proulx: At the Mailman layer if the sender address has not posted to the mailing before then the message will be held for moderation. This only happens *once* for the *first* messages from a new address until the modertors approve it. After that point

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2017-10-25 Thread Karlin High
On 10/24/2017 10:58 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: Perhaps I can help communicate the goings on that happens out of sight. Thank you! That was very informative. By examining message headers, I had formed some assumptions about how the Gnu Lists message flow is structured, and it was nice to have them

Re: Any other Thunderbird users have messages never post? (WAS: Hide slur?)

2017-10-25 Thread Bob Proulx
I have been reading the thread about lost emails to the list. Perhaps I can help communicate the goings on that happens out of sight. This message is a little long. If not interested in how email and mailing lists work then please feel free to skip it. Karlin High wrote: > Robert Schmaus

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2017-10-23 Thread Robin Bannister
David Wright wrote: So the question is why your Message-ID: <2914e16a-e129-19ca-4fc2-b3a552123...@dabble.ch> didn't arrive on the list. Perhaps the spam scan produced a false positive. Has this started happening within the past year? I notice that your postings are submitted slightly

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2017-10-23 Thread David Wright
On Mon 23 Oct 2017 at 11:10:23 (+0200), Robin Bannister wrote: > Karlin High wrote: > > >Curiouser and curiouser. The part that bugs me the worst is when I do > >a Reply-All and the message never appears on the list, but then the > >other recipients of my message ALSO do a Reply-All, and have

Re: Any other Thunderbird users have messages never post? (WAS: Hide slur?)

2017-10-23 Thread Robin Bannister
Karlin High wrote: Curiouser and curiouser. The part that bugs me the worst is when I do a Reply-All and the message never appears on the list, but then the other recipients of my message ALSO do a Reply-All, and have their replies to my message get posted to list, making it seem that my

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2017-10-20 Thread Karlin High
On 10/19/2017 4:48 PM, SoundsFromSound wrote: Did you try my suggestion from earlier in the thread, did it help in Thunderbird? Just now; we'll see what happens. But since Thunderbird is out of the picture after the message arrives at smtp.gmail.com... dunno. We'll see. -- Karlin High

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2017-10-19 Thread David Wright
On Thu 19 Oct 2017 at 17:33:08 (+0200), Bernhard Kleine wrote: > Am 19.10.2017 um 15:04 schrieb Wols Lists: > > And again, I don't think it applies here, don't forget some lists will > > look at the distribution list on the incoming mail, and not send the > > outgoing message to those addresses.

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2017-10-19 Thread SoundsFromSound
Karlin High wrote > Anyway, the Gmail web interface has never had delivery trouble here so > far. I'll be fine. But for the moment, I think people who make > multiple postings or apparently off-list conversations should be given > some extra grace. > -- > Karlin High > Missouri, USA Karlin, Did

Re: Any other Thunderbird users have messages never post? (WAS: Hide slur?)

2017-10-19 Thread Karlin High
On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 10:39 AM, Robert Schmaus wrote: >> is anyone else using Thunderbird, and never having any >> lost messages at all? > > I do, and I haven't ever lost a message to this (or indeed any) list. > >> If so, is your email provider something other than >

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2017-10-19 Thread Robert Schmaus
Hi Karlin, > But anyway, is anyone else using Thunderbird, and never having any > lost messages at all? I do, and I haven't ever lost a message to this (or indeed any) list. Sometimes it took a while for it to show up but I doubt that's anything to do with TBird. > If so, is your email

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2017-10-19 Thread Bernhard Kleine
Am 19.10.2017 um 15:04 schrieb Wols Lists: > And again, I don't think it applies here, don't forget some lists will > look at the distribution list on the incoming mail, and not send the > outgoing message to those addresses. So you do not receive a copy of > your own emails. Actually I do receive

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2017-10-19 Thread Wols Lists
On 19/10/17 12:33, Bernhard Kleine wrote: > > > As I started this, I would like to comment: > > 1. I read this list using Thunderbird, my mail server sits with > gmx.net. When I didnot see my mail for several hours arriving on the > list I started to worry. Has gmx sat on the mail

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2017-10-19 Thread Bernhard Kleine
Am 18.10.2017 um 18:38 schrieb Karlin High: > On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 9:08 AM, David Kastrup wrote: >> Bynow you should have realized that Mails to lilypond-user do not, as a >> rule, get lost and reposting them several times does not help. > Would that were true for some of us

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2017-10-19 Thread Ben
On 18/10/17 17:38, Karlin High wrote: On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 9:08 AM, David Kastrup wrote: Bynow you should have realized that Mails to lilypond-user do not, as a rule, get lost and reposting them several times does not help. I was driven to switch to the Gmail web interface. I

Re: Any other Thunderbird users have messages never post? (WAS: Hide slur?)

2017-10-18 Thread J Martin Rushton
On 18/10/17 17:38, Karlin High wrote: > On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 9:08 AM, David Kastrup wrote: >> Bynow you should have realized that Mails to lilypond-user do not, as a >> rule, get lost and reposting them several times does not help. > > Would that were true for some of us

Any other Thunderbird users have messages never post? (WAS: Hide slur?)

2017-10-18 Thread Karlin High
On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 9:08 AM, David Kastrup wrote: > Bynow you should have realized that Mails to lilypond-user do not, as a > rule, get lost and reposting them several times does not help. Would that were true for some of us Thunderbird users! (Header says that's what sent the