Re: Why does one need to mkinitrd/zipl ? (WAS : Broken logical volume group)

2009-02-23 Thread Hall, Ken (GTS)
If this was covered in previous notes, sorry, but I didn't see it, and I've been out for a few days so I didn't get into this at the beginning. In Red Hat (and probably Suse too), there's a chicken-egg problem. The DASD driver gets its list of valid devices from a parm that's passed to the

Re: Why does one need to mkinitrd/zipl ? (WAS : Broken logical volume group)

2009-02-23 Thread Scott Rohling
Good point.. I've always advised giving ranges in modprobe.conf and allowing for growth so you don't have to worry about initrd in most cases. Also - use the ranges as an indicator of what's there.. example: 100 -- /boot 101-110 -- swap 120-130 -- OS disks ( / ) - LVMs for the

Re: Why does one need to mkinitrd/zipl ? (WAS : Broken logical volume group)

2009-02-23 Thread Hall, Ken (GTS)
LVM gives you the option of swapping around the device numbers transparently too. It will alway be able to build the volumes, even if the nodes change. Red Hat also, by convention, sets up everything to mount by label, giving the same flexibility to non-LVM devices. The only one that NEEDS to

Re: Why does one need to mkinitrd/zipl ? (WAS : Broken logical volume group)

2009-02-23 Thread Scott Rohling
oh - and I forgot backup.. If your plan is to make physical backups of the Linux OS and use TSM for the rest .. you can restrict your backup jobs to particular ranges fairly easily. On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 7:53 AM, Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.comwrote: Sure .. the device numbers don't

Re: Why does one need to mkinitrd/zipl ? (WAS : Broken logical volume group)

2009-02-23 Thread Scott Rohling
Sure .. the device numbers don't matter to the LVM at all -- they just matter to whoever is trying to figure out what disks to LINK/ATTACH to fix something.. On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 7:45 AM, Hall, Ken (GTS) ken_h...@ml.com wrote: LVM gives you the option of swapping around the device numbers

Help with zLinux DASD using multiple paths

2009-02-23 Thread David K. Kelly
I need some DASD zLinux configuration help. How can I configure multiple paths to a single disk in SUSE zLinux? I have 8 paths to our Shark and I’m running zLinux SUSE 10 in zVM V5.3 on a z9 and I want to configure multiple paths to a single 22.8 GB 3390-27 disk. Also has anyone used

Re: Help with zLinux DASD using multiple paths

2009-02-23 Thread David Boyes
On 2/23/09 11:12 AM, David K. Kelly dkke...@courts.state.va.us wrote: How can I configure multiple paths to a single disk in SUSE zLinux? I have 8 paths to our Shark and I¹m running zLinux SUSE 10 in zVM V5.3 on a z9 and I want to configure multiple paths to a single 22.8 GB 3390-27 disk.

Re: Help with zLinux DASD using multiple paths

2009-02-23 Thread Ron Foster
David, I was just wondering what the objective of running multi path was. Is it to run PAV? Or is there some other reason? Is your mod 27 a full pack minidisk or is it going to have multiple minidisks? Ron Foster --Original Message-- From: David K. Kelly Sender: Linux on 390 Port To:

Linux FCP via an SVC...

2009-02-23 Thread Lee Stewart
Is anyone using Linux on Z accessing an FCP via an SVC (SAN Volume Controller)? If so, do you see the WWPNs and LUNs displayed in the Yast Zfcp panel after a GET_WWPNs or GET_LUNs? As it trickles down it ends up in zfcp_san_disc. It skips any WWPN that reports any type but Storage. Our SVC

Root Password

2009-02-23 Thread Kittendorf, Craig X.
Hi, I just started back at a shop with SuSE 7.2 installed in an LPAR on a z10 and no experienced sysadmin. The root password was changed and no one knows what it is. We do not have VM, another Linux LPAR, or the installation materials. Is there a way to resolve this? Thanks, Craig

Re: Root Password

2009-02-23 Thread Mark Pace
Does anyone have SUDO authority without password? On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Kittendorf, Craig X. kittendorf.cr...@mail.dc.state.fl.us wrote: Hi, I just started back at a shop with SuSE 7.2 installed in an LPAR on a z10 and no experienced sysadmin. The root password was changed and

Re: Root Password

2009-02-23 Thread Mark Post
On 2/23/2009 at 11:47 AM, Kittendorf, Craig X. kittendorf.cr...@mail.dc.state.fl.us wrote: Hi, I just started back at a shop with SuSE 7.2 installed in an LPAR on a z10 and no experienced sysadmin. The root password was changed and no one knows what it is. We do not have VM, another

Re: Root Password

2009-02-23 Thread Jack Woehr
Kittendorf, Craig X. wrote: Hi, I just started back at a shop with SuSE 7.2 installed in an LPAR on a z10 and no experienced sysadmin. The root password was changed and no one knows what it is. We do not have VM, another Linux LPAR, or the installation materials. Is there a way to resolve

Re: Linux FCP via an SVC...

2009-02-23 Thread Mark Post
On 2/23/2009 at 12:58 PM, Lee Stewart lstewart.dsgr...@attglobal.net wrote: -snip- Is it the SVC that should be saying Storage? Or is it zfcp_san_disc that should also be accepting Multi-function device?? Based on the fact that check was ripped out at some later time (it's not in the

Re: Root Password

2009-02-23 Thread Mark Post
On 2/23/2009 at 1:07 PM, Jack Woehr j...@well.com wrote: -snip- http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/forgot-password-suse-lin ux-10-434891/ And there's also the (easiest) option of booting with init=/bin/bash which lets you become root ... I'm pretty sure that option

Re: Linux FCP via an SVC...

2009-02-23 Thread Michael O'Reilly
Lee, We have a lab machine using Linux on Z accessing an FCP via an SVC (SAN Volume Controller). We can confirm your observation that we don't see the WWPNs and LUNs displayed in the Yast Zfcp panel after a GET_WWPNs or GET_LUNs. As you mention, the zfcp_san_disc script runs san_disc and is

Re: Root Password

2009-02-23 Thread Gibney, Dave
This may sound really off the wall, but what is ZZSA's opinion of zLinux DASD? Could it be used to zap the root password? Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of

Re: Linux FCP via an SVC...

2009-02-23 Thread Lee Stewart
Thanks Mike and Mark... We'll modify the script... Lee Michael O'Reilly wrote: Lee, We have a lab machine using Linux on Z accessing an FCP via an SVC (SAN Volume Controller). We can confirm your observation that we don't see the WWPNs and LUNs displayed in the Yast Zfcp panel after a

Re: Help with zLinux DASD using multiple paths

2009-02-23 Thread David K. Kelly
Thank you David and Ron for the quick responses. Let me explain what I'm trying to do. In zLinux I have a DB2 file system that is setup on one large 3390-27 disk pack. And when I use Linux tools like iostat I see one disk with one path to the Shark. What I would like to do is use the eight

Re: LINUX-390 Digest - 22 Feb 2009 to 23 Feb 2009 - Unfinished

2009-02-23 Thread Kittendorf, Craig X.
Hi Mark, The z10 came by not having any increase in the monthly hardware charge, but saving a bunch on IBM software and working deals with most vendors. Also, Linux is being fought against by the Windows folks. Thanks, Craig Date:Mon, 23 Feb 2009 11:12:18 -0700 From:Mark Post

Re: Help with zLinux DASD using multiple paths

2009-02-23 Thread Hall, Ken (GTS)
It's a characteristic of the architecture that all eight paths will be used under the covers, PROVIDING you can drive eight I/O operations at the same time to different volumes (or cache, for some subsystems, when reading). Normally you can't do this from a single guest. What you ARE getting

Re: LINUX-390 Digest - 22 Feb 2009 to 23 Feb 2009 - Unfinished

2009-02-23 Thread Mark Post
On 2/23/2009 at 3:46 PM, Kittendorf, Craig X. kittendorf.cr...@mail.dc.state.fl.us wrote: Hi Mark, The z10 came by not having any increase in the monthly hardware charge, but saving a bunch on IBM software and working deals with most vendors. Also, Linux is being fought against by the

Download SLES

2009-02-23 Thread Kittendorf, Craig X.
I haven't figured out how to download a new version without spending money. Craig PS Sorry I forgot to change the subject on my last two posts. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 4:03 PM To:

Hipersocket MTU size for DB2 Connect ?

2009-02-23 Thread Bruce . Lightsey
We are just now setting up our first hipersocket connection(s) from z/VM and linux to z/OS and will primarily use this first cut for DB2 connect to talk to DB2 on z/OS. Does anyone have a guide for the MTU size? ( redbook, whitepaper, etc ) Thanks, Bruce Lightsey Mississippi Dept. of Information

Re: Hipersocket MTU size for DB2 Connect ?

2009-02-23 Thread Mark Post
On 2/23/2009 at 3:50 PM, bruce.light...@its.ms.gov wrote: We are just now setting up our first hipersocket connection(s) from z/VM and linux to z/OS and will primarily use this first cut for DB2 connect to talk to DB2 on z/OS. Does anyone have a guide for the MTU size? ( redbook,

Re: Hipersocket MTU size for DB2 Connect ?

2009-02-23 Thread Rich Smrcina
Plan to make the MTU size about the average size of the result set that application returns. That will probably be very difficult to determine, but probably the easiest way to find out will be to ask the developers how large the queries typically are. Of course there will be variations and

Re: Help with zLinux DASD using multiple paths

2009-02-23 Thread David Boyes
Actually, you *are* using all the paths the I/O subsystem in the hardware is already aware of them if they are defined in your IOCP. An I/O presented to the device by CP gets handed to the I/O processors. The I/O processors in the frame handle deciding which path to use at any given point based

Re: Root Password

2009-02-23 Thread John Summerfield
Jack Woehr wrote: Kittendorf, Craig X. wrote: Hi, I just started back at a shop with SuSE 7.2 installed in an LPAR on a z10 and no experienced sysadmin. The root password was changed and no one knows what it is. We do not have VM, another Linux LPAR, or the installation materials. Is there

Re: Root Password

2009-02-23 Thread Ivan Warren
John Summerfield wrote: This is what I would do, and why I reckon Linux security to be so feeble[1]. One does need to know the commands to mount needed filesystems. [1]Give me your disk or physical access to your computer, and not even your boot-time password's enough. Hmm.. Even boot-time

Re: Root Password

2009-02-23 Thread John Summerfield
Mark Post wrote: On 2/23/2009 at 1:07 PM, Jack Woehr j...@well.com wrote: -snip- http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/forgot-password-suse-lin ux-10-434891/ And there's also the (easiest) option of booting with init=/bin/bash which lets you become root ... I'm pretty

Re: Root Password

2009-02-23 Thread Ivan Warren
John Summerfield wrote: For completeness for the ignorant, whether that option is available depends on the boot loader, not on Linux. Since the choice of bootloader depends on the platform, translating Mark's reply to other platform is risky. Excusez moi ? understanding the 'init=' boot

Re: Root Password

2009-02-23 Thread John Summerfield
Ivan Warren wrote: John Summerfield wrote: This is what I would do, and why I reckon Linux security to be so feeble[1]. One does need to know the commands to mount needed filesystems. [1]Give me your disk or physical access to your computer, and not even your boot-time password's enough.

Re: Root Password

2009-02-23 Thread Mark Post
On 2/23/2009 at 6:36 PM, Ivan Warren i...@vmfacility.fr wrote: And if the kernel shipped with SLES 7.2 doesn't understand 'init=', then i t can't be used (regardless of the boot loader). Of course the kernel did understand the init= parameter. Getting it passed to the kernel at boot time

Re: Root Password

2009-02-23 Thread Ivan Warren
John Summerfield wrote: Windows is a little more difficult, I need a Linux boot disk and the right program, and if it's a domain controller there's another trick after that. Which reminds me, I still have a fight to win against OS X. And then again.. It also depends whether you are trying to

Re: Root Password

2009-02-23 Thread Ivan Warren
Mark Post wrote: Of course the kernel did understand the init= parameter. Getting it passed to the kernel at boot time is the issue, and I'm not sure the s390-tools did it, that far back in time. That's where I'm surprised here.. Kernel parameters to the bootloader is just.. a blob ! A

automatic email?

2009-02-23 Thread John McKown
Is there any email MUA package that I can load which will deliver email directly to an MS Exchange server without a local MTA? This is on a RHEL server. The closest that I can find is Alpine, but I cannot figure out how to totally automate it. What I want is simple: echo some line of information

Re: Why does one need to mkinitrd/zipl ? (WAS : Broken logical volume group)

2009-02-23 Thread Richard Troth
Ken -- In the thread, we may have not specifically mentioned that list of devices. Nice catch. But ... be aware that the list-o-devices may not always be needed. In particular, once the root is mounted, especially if UDEV is then also available, additional disks can be marked online via

Re: automatic email?

2009-02-23 Thread Adam Thornton
On Feb 23, 2009, at 8:13 PM, John McKown wrote: Many thanks for any ideas. I wrote a very simple MTA based on Net::SMTP in perl to do this. It's straightforward. Net::SMTP makes it very, very easy, assuming you already speak Perl. However: Most Linux distros let you configure an MTA to