Re: Memory use question

2010-06-29 Thread Mrohs, Ray
) (CTR) Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 11:24 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Memory use question Hi Well this is not something I would do in my shop. Not having swap available for Linux is just asking for trouble. One reason is that you really want to size your guests in such a way

Re: Memory use question

2010-06-28 Thread Mrohs, Ray
-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Memory use question So with swappiness higher, Linux is making decsions to preemptively move something from memory to vdisk. Well, your vdisk is in VM's pageable memory too. So moving something from one piece of VM memory to another piece of VM memory

Re: Memory use question

2010-06-28 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
-Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Mrohs, Ray Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 10:21 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Memory use question This led me into an interesting area. I just set a couple of our test servers to run without swap space

Re: Memory use question

2010-06-24 Thread Rodger Donaldson
Rob van der Heij wrote: On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Mrohs, Ray ray.mr...@usdoj.gov wrote: Rob, Heap size is set to 500M/1000M. I've read recommendations to make default/max the same number, but I would just be guessing at a value. It has grow close to 800M at least once, but it always

Re: Memory use question

2010-06-24 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Rodger Donaldson rodg...@diaspora.gen.nz wrote: Well, bearing in mind both the Sun and IBM JVMs default to memory settings that both IBM and Sun say are crap for app servers (e.g. neither using their 1.4 or later GC algorithms by default), I'm not sure I'd

Re: Memory use question

2010-06-24 Thread Richard Gasiorowski
...@velocitysoftware.com To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu Date: 06/24/2010 04:45 AM Subject: Re: Memory use question On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Rodger Donaldson rodg...@diaspora.gen.nz wrote: Well, bearing in mind both the Sun and IBM JVMs default to memory settings that both IBM and Sun say are crap

Re: Memory use question

2010-06-24 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Richard Gasiorowski rgasi...@csc.com wrote: Rob has a good point in resource usage and with GC it definitely is the lesser of two evils.  I have never had an instance where after determining the GC Collector settings performance and % utilization suffered

Re: Memory use question

2010-06-24 Thread Mrohs, Ray
-Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 3:45 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Memory use question Rob mentioned the vm.swappiness setting and he and I have had a lot

Re: Memory use question

2010-06-24 Thread Marcy Cortes
and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Mrohs, Ray Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 5:53 AM To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Memory use question -Original

Re: Memory use question

2010-06-24 Thread Marcy Cortes
- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Mrohs, Ray Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 5:53 AM To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Memory use question -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf

Re: Memory use question

2010-06-24 Thread Marcy Cortes
e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Rob van der Heij Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 1:44 AM To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Memory use question On Thu

Memory use question

2010-06-23 Thread Mrohs, Ray
Hi, I am experimentally minimizing the footprint of a SLES10 WebSphere 7 instance and seeing the following. Swap is to v-disk. top: Tasks: 120 total, 3 running, 117 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 5.3%us, 0.3%sy, 0.0%ni, 94.0%id, 0.3%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st Mem: 2050776k

Re: Memory use question

2010-06-23 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Mrohs, Ray ray.mr...@usdoj.gov wrote: The cache number looks interesting because it remains large while swap space is being used up. This particular instance has been up for 30+ days, so maybe there is incremental swap space saturation over time? Swappiness

Re: Memory use question

2010-06-23 Thread Marcy Cortes
Subject: [LINUX-390] Memory use question Hi, I am experimentally minimizing the footprint of a SLES10 WebSphere 7 instance and seeing the following. Swap is to v-disk. top: Tasks: 120 total, 3 running, 117 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 5.3%us, 0.3%sy, 0.0%ni, 94.0%id, 0.3%wa

Re: Memory use question

2010-06-23 Thread Marcy Cortes
Also: so maybe there is incremental swap space saturation over time? Use your perf tool and plot out the last 30 days of swap size to see if it looks like a leak. Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to

Re: Memory use question

2010-06-23 Thread Mrohs, Ray
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Memory use question It's called a native memory leak. Lots of things can cause it. Thread pools, asynci i/o are two areas where this can happen. See http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21368248 Also http://www-01.ibm.com/support

Re: Memory use question

2010-06-23 Thread Mrohs, Ray
Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Rob van der Heij Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:06 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Memory use question On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Mrohs, Ray ray.mr...@usdoj.gov wrote: The cache

Re: Memory use question

2010-06-23 Thread Marcy Cortes
@vm.marist.edu Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Memory use question Marcy, thanks for the pointers. I verified that the thread pool default/max numbers are the same, and the async I/O box remains unchecked. The swap space used stays at 0 for a day or two, but slowly climbs. There are also dips

Re: Memory use question

2010-06-23 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Mrohs, Ray ray.mr...@usdoj.gov wrote: Rob, Heap size is set to 500M/1000M. I've read recommendations to make default/max the same number, but I would just be guessing at a value. It has grow close to 800M at least once, but it always falls back to around the