I wrote a small piece of perl over the weekend that might help with folks
confused with IP addrs/netmasks.
Source at http://194.105.168.44/~dougie/netm.pl.src
I'll stand up a working version at http://194.105.168.44/~dougie/netm.html
tonight.
Regards, Dougie
On the other hand, by the time you're at a thousand rackmount Intel
boxes versus a zSeries capable of hosting 1000 Linux images
comfortably
(though certainly not with as much CPU per image as the Intel
boxes--so
obviously this is a solution you'd only want to evaluate for I/O,
rather
than
Dougie G Lawson wrote:
I wrote a small piece of perl over the weekend that might help with folks
confused with IP addrs/netmasks.
Source at http://194.105.168.44/~dougie/netm.pl.src
I'll stand up a working version at http://194.105.168.44/~dougie/netm.html
tonight.
The working version
The distribution itself is not particularly expensive. The bundled
support
that SuSE requires to purchase the software is $11,000 (US) per
engine for
the 31-bit and $14,000 per engine for 64-bit systems.
The problem is - for those making strategic decisions - is not the
$11k today but the
If you specify the dasdfmt option -d cdl, which is the default and stands
for compatible disk layout, dasdfmt writes a volume label to disk.
This label in the third disk block contains the label identifier VOL1 and
a 6 char volume serial. The default for this volser is 0X, where
is your
Volker Sameske wrote:
If you already use DFSMSdss to backup your OS/390 disks, you can use it
also
to backup your Linux disks. There is no need to have two backup solutions.
This is only good when the Linux image is shutdown. When you
want to backup a running Linux image I think you should
The software division has nothing to do with this. They do not set pricing
for Linux distributions, the Linux distributors do. The vast majority of the
price is related to the service, a small part is the packaging.
If you are migrating Linux to Linux/390, there is only a platform change
cost,
Yes, you are right, but in many cases it should be enough
to unmount or re-mount the partition read-only.
DFSMSdss performs a full volume/partition backup, which
is normally used for disaster recovery. To backup your
day-to-day work you need of course an additional logical
backup solution.
Well, I don't think I have ever had a good experience with AOL or their
software, so based on my history with them, if they buy RedHat that would
be a good reason to not install/uninstall RedHat.
Too bad.
Dave Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 01/19/2002 10:05:59 AM
Please respond to Linux on
Well, I don't think I have ever had a good experience with AOL or
their
software, so based on my history with them, if they buy RedHat that
would
be a good reason to not install/uninstall RedHat.
Now that SuSE is suddenly so expensive, I was quite looking forward to
a supply of RedHat CDs
Check /etc/rc.config. You'll be looking for NETDEV_0 (or NETDEV_1, etc.).
Also check for IFCONFIG_0 to make sure those values are compatible with a
CTC connection. IPADDR_0 will have your IP address.
Mark Post
-Original Message-
From: Karl Tucker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:
Marcel,
One of the reasons might be that management sees a lack in supporting
software for this platform. Normaly the OS/390 platform is know and used for
it's robustness as a hardware platform aswell as the available software to
maintain, secure, etc the system. One of the things you will need
n Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 11:07:08AM -0500, Post, Mark K wrote:
The only _real_ difference between now and before is that you don't have a
choice of support or not if you want to use SuSE's Linux/390, and there's no
way to test drive the distribution before deciding to buy or not.
And both of
Hmm. This was not my experience when I was testing IUCV connections with
2.2.16 back in May of 2001, but it certainly is now with the 2.4 kernel (as
you stated). I checked the latest version of the Device Drivers and
Installation Commands manual, dated 23 November, 2001, and it still shows
Why isn't anyone discussing going with IBM's ThinkBlue version of Linux,
especially looking at 64-bit implementations?
Stephen J. Guthrie
Regional Sales Manager
Mantissa Corporation
2200 Valleydale Road
Birmingham, AL 35244
(800) 438-7367
How can i do the job of managing my iucv connections properly in 2.4.16, i
mean without the trouble of getting these messages all the time when I load
netiucv at one or at the other guest:
kernel: iucv_add_pathid: Pathid being used, error.
I just can't understand how it works by now (compared
We have started an project to evaluate using Linux here. Part
of the mandate
is to start as we mean to proceed. In other words, the distribution we
choose now will be the one we go into production with (IF we go into
production). When we go into production, the distribution
vendor MUST be
Several comments:
Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/21/2002 09:02:36
AM:
I think that you are correct about this.
We have started an project to evaluate using Linux here. Part of the
mandate
is to start as we mean to proceed. In other words, the distribution we
choose now
You have a good plan and you might want to talk to SuSE and
'encourage'
them to get their evaluation license in place.
I'd certainly add a voice to this.
Adam - I wouldn't say that a lot of shops have enough Linux
depth to do it
on their own, especially when you get into the issues of
Thanks. I re-ran it and it picked up the CTC0. I don't know why other
attempts failed.
Maybe I'm just being grumpy today, but I'm inclined to say that SuSE have
made their bed, now they can lie in it.
-Original Message-
From: David Boyes [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 1:46 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: reasons why management
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, David Boyes wrote:
Even further -- the $150 media kit for SuSE 7.0 was something that most
places could buy without Acts of God or accountants -- even within the reach
of someone's private wallet if push came to shove. That got them a lot of
visibility. $11K/engine is
I'd be a lot happier if SuSE reinstated the media kits w/o
support -- I like
their distribution, and I generally like their approach, but I
don't see a
good reason to pay for something I'm not going to use. I'm told
that media
^^
If you are
Steve,
We're actually running it here, having the hardware for it and all. We are
very happy with it; but I need to correct your subject line ... this is not
IBM's distribution (IBM doesn't do a Linux distro) -- it comes from a
German company called Intellinux, who deserves my compliments and
James,
Thanks for the information. I'm running Suse 2.2.16 and looking for
optimization beyond that which is available for this port. If I am going to
compile and tune my own Linux kernel, why go with anything but that which
IBM is using in the Z/OS arena? I don't want to be a pioneer, but if
Er, Jimwould where you work provide a clue? :-) :-)
--- James Tison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We use it for cross-development for a 64-bit target zSeries system,
whose nature I can't discuss yet (announcement pending, hopefully
within the next 6 months).
--Jim--
James S. Tison
Senior
Why, yes, it would. wink
--Jim--
James S. Tison
Senior Software Engineer
TPF Laboratory / Architecture
IBM Corporation
+1 203 486-2835 (voice/fax)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bob Richards
richardsrb@yah To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Steve:
Thanks for the information. I'm running Suse 2.2.16 and looking for
optimization beyond that which is available for this port. If I am
going to compile and tune my own Linux kernel, why go with anything
but that which IBM is using in the Z/OS arena? ...
Steve: I think you meant
Roger. I do mean Z/Series, not Z/OS. As for IBM being distro
agnostic, what does this portend:
We use it for cross-development for a 64-bit target zSeries system,
whose nature I can't discuss yet (announcement pending, hopefully
within the next 6 months)
Steve:
To keep our trademarks
OK, I'll admit I am not completely informed about when it concerns
IT history. What is the Jim Lennane mistake??
I assume he is referring to the Jim Lennane who ran DeScribe. A great
word processor that was popular on OS/2 (when I was in OS/2 support).
Jim believed that no one would want
Gee, Jim, have you been sued for accidental use of acronyms in email
messaging before? I'll try to remember zseries (Is the S in caps? Oh well,
another lawsuit;)).
As far as the posted note contained herein, I wanted to indicate that IBM
was developing an internal system with a 64-bit port
To the S/390 the CDROM is a tape device. Trying to configure Linux for S/390
to access the CDROM is fruitless. The only way to access the CDROM is over
FTP or NFS on another machine.
On Monday 21 January 2002 04:09 pm, you wrote:
Anybody installed SUSE from the downloaded SUSe site to a
Hello from Gregg C Levine normally with Jedi Knight Computers
(For those of you, who have seen this, and reacted to it, what follows
contains some minor corrections, that I did not make earlier.)
I agree. There was some talk, early in the discussions about adding
native(?), CDROM device access
To keep our trademarks straight, it is zSeries and z/OS (case and
slash
sensitive). The hardware does not have a slasha and the software
does,
and no, I don't know why.
You don't want to go there. I had a long discussion with Susan
Whitney about it in Vienna at the lauch of the server
Sorry, Steve --
The one thing I *can* confirm is that we're *not* doing a 64-bit Linux
distro. The existing distributors certainly have that task well in hand.
The only reason I commented on it at all was that at least one previous
note in this thread had asked what would ya ever need with a
Hello mailing list people,=20
Our customer has 100+ servers (Unix, NT-Intel, Linux-Intel) and
they are having trouble keeping up with the ever increasing workload.=20
Until now they just added servers when more was required, but they have rea=
lized that one day they will need to consolidate
Gee, Jim, have you been sued for accidental use of acronyms in email
messaging before? I'll try to remember zseries (Is the S in caps? Oh
well,
another lawsuit;)).
Naw, Jim's just the guy who has to go around behind confused salesdroids and
press people to clean up garbage like Linux for
Hello from Gregg C Levine normally with Jedi Knight Computers
You are right at that one, David, regarding the salesdroids. At that
VMware booth, that time, I actually met one. Still though, given the
ideas that have been floating around this list, it would be an
interesting one if IBM did indeed
snip..
It may not be a question of SuSE-on-S/390 versus no Linux-on-S/390, you
know. Further, it may well be going into a shop that wants to run Linux
on Intel boxes as well. Those shops usually want to use a single
vendor's Linux distributions across their platforms. There is at least
one
His mistake was believing that his market position (the only
full-function word processor available for OS2) would permit him to
impose significantly different TsCs on his potential customers.
Phil: I had forgot about that! Since I got my copy of DeScribe for
free (I was doing OS/2 sales
The only reason I commented on it at all was that at least one previous
note in this thread had asked what would ya ever need with a 64-bit Linux
besides gee-whiz value?.
Well, not quite. What I said was that not many problems require it *at this
time*, and that most of the problems that do
Hello from Gregg C Levine normally with Jedi Knight Computers
I agree with David Boyes, with Mike Ross, and with a few others, except
Phil Payne. It happens that the methods Suse are taking are indeed
peculiar. It also happens that Mike is right about this being Linux. My
first areas of interest
As it turns out I have talked with another of my fellow systems folks who
has performed the Linux install a couple of times on the MP3000 and he has
had to do the install from a ftp server.. so it might be that the
documentation that is written is just ASUING that we know what is
in
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