On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 12:49:06PM -0500, David Boyes wrote:
Why isn't anyone discussing going with IBM's ThinkBlue
version of Linux,
especially looking at 64-bit implementations?
ThinkBlue's actually a separate company, not at all part of IBM.
Wrt to 64 bit, there really aren't that
I am installing Redhat Linux 7.2 downloaded from the ftp siteon an
LPAR. The following is the error I get when I bootup:
VSF: cannot open root device or 01:00
Please append a correct root= boot option
kernel Panic: VFS: Unable to mount root FS on 01:00
Thanx
Moloko
Moloko, we used an OSA FDDI with a customer in PR but they had it in LCS
mode. Carlos :-)
Great minds think for themselves!
Carlos A. Ordonez
IBM Corporation
Server Consolidation
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Mark, Have a look at IBM's offering. They will provide an LPAR with a
configured LINUX (SUSE is one of the
options) for you to evaluate
We have one and it is a good first step.
Mick Megson
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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Post, Mark K
Hi Phil,
I'm planning on implementing LVM and wasn't aware that there were an
instabilities. Can you comment on what instabilities exist at this time?
Are they platform (S/390) specific?
Michael Coffin, VM Systems Programmer
Internal Revenue Service - Room 6030
Constitution Avenue, N.W.
I really want to use it. Can you please if possible tell me how can I
get it working, it doesn't matter even if is in LCS mode as long as it
is working.
Please assist
Thanx
Moloko
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From: Carlos Ordonez [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 22 January 2002 14:42
To:
We have several CVS servers running on Linux/390 that use
LVM and I've not heard of any problems. The network traffic
I've seen indicates that they're successfully serving GBs
of data.
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Hi Phil,
I'm planning on implementing LVM and wasn't aware that there were an
Cool - I'll have to get my hands on a copy and see what it does. :)
Michael Coffin, VM Systems Programmer
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On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, David Boyes wrote:
SuSE still offers a $4.500 evaluation version, which comes with the full
service of the full product.
While that's nice, that's still a far cry from the $150 you charged for the
previous release, and I'm quite capable of providing my own support.
I'm currently working on porting the Globus distributed computing
tools, and one of the systems I need to include in a computing grid
is a OS/390 box. Unfortunately, this box does not have a C compiler.
Do any of you folks have some spare cycles to run a fairly large
compile and test run on a
MS Office (and Lotus Smartsuite among others) proved him wrong.
I should have added he had the OS/2 market almost to himself. The OS/2
version of SS had an appalling reputation, and Office? What Office?
The principal choices were Windows versions of WP, Office and SS, or
Describe.
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Cheers
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, David Boyes wrote:
Even further -- the $150 media kit for SuSE 7.0 was something that most
places could buy without Acts of God or accountants -- even within the reac
h
of someone's private wallet if push came to shove. That got them a lot of
visibility.
Hi Mike,
I heard that the SuSE 7.2 distribution (which includes a mandatory service
contract!) is around $15,000! I don't mind paying $100 for CD's (even
though it's WAY too much), but $15,000 for the $10 CD's and $14,990 for
service I don't want - that's a pretty hard sell to management who
Everyone, thanks a lot for your great response on this topic online and
offline. This realy helps me to get prepared.
Met vriendelijke groet,
Marcel Foortjes
Systeem beheerder / Afdeling Mainframe beheer
De Amersfoortse. De Inkomensverzekeraar.
Stadsring 15, 3811 HM Amersfoort
Postbus 42, 3800
I have installed SuSe Linux on a S/390 partition. In November of 2000 I
went to ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/s390/suse-us-s390 and got the three files to
make a boot of the installation system and the three ISO images. They are
SuSe Linux 2.2.16. I would like to put the current Linux on my S/390
MS Office (and Lotus Smartsuite among others) proved him wrong.
I should have added he had the OS/2 market almost to himself. The
OS/2
version of SS had an appalling reputation, and Office? What Office?
The principal choices were Windows versions of WP, Office and SS, or
Describe.
You
Mick,
You are referring to the Linux Community Development System, and I do have
an instance there. That environment is relatively restrictive, compared to
what I can do at my own site, and is intended primarily for people who don't
have access to their own S/390 or zSeries hardware. And guess
Hey, I'm a sales guy, not a droid:-). I've installed Unix system around the
world. I was the engineer, the programmer, the trainer and the cable guy.
I can sell, too.
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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Gregg C Levine
Sent: Monday, January
Hello from Gregg C Levine normally with Jedi Knight Computers
Did I imply explicitly that anyone on this list, is a member of the
list, as a group, is indeed a member of the same crowd that R2D2, and
C3P0, belong to? Of course not. I was referring to a specific salesman,
and a product, which I
In a message dated 1/21/2002 10:26:52 PM Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What you
need to understand is that your success so far is based on widespread
acceptance of your code and that your current market dominance is based on
being the first mover in this space. Take
Greetings;
This whole discussion reminds me of an email I got a few days ago.
This particular company is working on a new and very interesting
product and wanted me to be a beta tester for them. So far so good.
The really hilarious part was that they wanted me to *pay* $99 for
the privilege!
I
In a message dated 1/22/2002 9:59:24 AM Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I haven't heard anyone actually suggest a new
business model for SuSE based on cheap prices, just whining about the new
price.
Most of us are not whining about the support costs...just the fact that
My take on this issue is that sites are still evaluating Linux and they
don't have the official approval for funding. Thus they need access to
Linux for evaluation purposes and that is the crux of the matter.
Lionel B. Dyck,
without giving us a free or
inexpensive
way to demo and sell our management on SuSE S/390 Linux.
Without that...a lot of us can not convince our management to take
a serious
look at S/390 Linux.
Seems to me, then, the solution is simple.
1. Download one
Not whining Gordon, but let's see - the kernel upgrades aren't written by
SuSE - they're written by open source contributors and are offered free to
all who want them, IBM provides the kernel patches to make the kernel run on
S/390 architecture and the OCO driver updates. I expect that 85%
I don't see how it could be considered off topic for this list.
I really don't know anything about the application, or if an application
even exists. I was asked by a supervisor, who was asked by a supervisor,
etc, Can we run an AIX application on Linux-S/390?
Thanks for those who
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From: Steve Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hey, I'm a sales guy, not a droid:-). I've installed Unix system around
the
world. I was the engineer, the programmer, the trainer and the cable guy.
I can sell, too.
Yep. That's why I said confused salesdroids. You're not
In a message dated 1/22/2002 10:47:37 AM Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
2. Spend two years getting it to work as a production system with no
manuals and no help other than this list and a few presentations at SHARE
(like I did),
Huh? Based on what we did with SuSE 7.0,
Mike Kershaw and I did just that with the Slackware distribution. I would
not recommend it if you want to actually do any revenue-producing work on
top of building (and maintaining) your own distribution. Putting a
distribution together, even when you already have another architecture to
use as
The Linux pricing issue works both ways, though. A recent post said
that
there were about 700 Linux/390 installations world-wide (300
production and
400 in test). If SuSE sells one copy at $100 to each installation,
that's
only $70,000 to cover research, creation of the kernel, packaging of
On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 12:04:59PM -0500, Dave Myers wrote:
In a message dated 1/22/2002 9:59:24 AM Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I haven't heard anyone actually suggest a new
business model for SuSE based on cheap prices, just whining about the new
price.
Most of
Huh? Based on what we did with SuSE 7.0, I think we could
demo a POC to management in 1 month or less.
Guess it depends on what you want to demo
Also depends on your expertise level (none when we started. Didn't even
know simple shell commands.) and the demands of
390 expertise is rare and expensive. PC weenies are dime a case (even if
you don't return the empties...
That's really good! Can I use it?
Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back.
-Piet Hein, Journal of Irreproducible Results March, 1971
Gordon W. Wolfe, Ph.D
VM Technical
On Tue, 22 Jan 2002, Coffin Michael C wrote:
EXACTLY! Forcing service contracts down the throats of shops that are
evaluating ...
SuSE does not seem to get!
What is interesting to note is that this S/390 strategy
appears to be the opposite of SuSE's INTeL Linux strategy,
where they (like
Hi David,
Can you tell me what was changed (if anything) between RedHat 7.2 RC2 and
the GA release? Is there a README or page somewhere that I can refer to?
I'd like to upgrade my RC2 system to GA levels of code, but if
little/nothing has changed it will save me a lot of time.
-Thanks in
Pardon my redundancy if this has been posted:
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/01/20/202205 It's a Ask
Slashdot from a guy wanting to compare Linux/390 to other platforms.
I'm using Debian unstable (sid) and the /etc/network/interfaces mechanism.
How can i do the job of managing my iucv connections properly in 2.4.16, i
mean without the trouble of getting these messages all the time when I
load
netiucv at one or at the other guest:
kernel: iucv_add_pathid:
Hi Stefan,
BTW, the subject is also incorrect: Debian is free (as in beer and in
speech)
and will always be.
Where can I find some of that free beer? :)
Michael Coffin, VM Systems Programmer
Internal Revenue Service - Room 6030
Constitution Avenue, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20224
People having trouble installing Oracle 9i Developers' on
their systems are told that only SuSE SLES7 is what
they'll get help with on their Linux Oracle forum. Thus,
if you want to evaluate Oracle you can't do it by picking
up the freely available 7.0. This may lead to a situation
where you need
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