VM VSE linux/390 Employment Web Page

2002-05-16 Thread Dennis G. Wicks
Greetings; (Posted to VMESA-L and VSE-L and LINUX-390) - - Now in its fifth year! - - Now includes VSE and linux/390! I have set up a public service web page at http://www.eskimo.com/~wix/vm/ for posting positions available and wanted for VM, VSE and linux/390. Please visit the

Re: Kernel commentary/books

2002-05-16 Thread Malcolm Beattie
Asher Glynn writes: Has anyone read a book on the Linux kernel that they would recommend buying? Depending on what parts of the kernel you're interested in, Linux Device Drivers (Rubini) and Understanding the Linux Kernel (Bovet Cesati), are worth reading. Both published by O'Reilly. There

Re: Kernel commentary/books

2002-05-16 Thread John Summerfield
Has anyone read a book on the Linux kernel that they would recommend buying? Thanks, Give Mr Molnar's a miss. -- Cheers John Summerfield Microsoft's most solid OS: http://www.geocities.com/rcwoolley/ Note: mail delivered to me is deemed to be intended for me, for my disposition.

Re: Mainframe Linux is Dead. Long Live Mainframe Linux

2002-05-16 Thread Phil Payne
The fatal flaw in META'a arguement is that Linux or no, mainframes are not going anywhere soon. Mainframes have been appearing in the obituary section of IT mags for quite a long time now, yet inexplicably have yet to be totally replaced by PCs :) The current loss rate has a number of people

Re: Kernel commentary/books

2002-05-16 Thread Ferguson, Neale
- Understanding the Linux Kernel - Bovey Cesati - O'Reilly - The Linux Kernel Book - Card, Dumas, Mevel - Wiley - Linux - Michael Kofler - Addison Wesley - Linux Device Drivers - Rubin - O'Reilly -Original Message- Has anyone read a book on the Linux kernel that they would recommend

Re: send messages to vm console

2002-05-16 Thread Arty Ecock
Hi, You can use the logger command on Linux/390 and point the /etc/syslogd.conf at your VM host. You can then install my TCPLOGD server (on the 1997 VM Tools Tape) and customize it to your heart's content. The TCPLOGD server is a REXX EXEC and a NAMES file. That's it. Piece of cake.

RE : ESCON CTC between two LPAR LINUX (SLES 2.4.7)

2002-05-16 Thread Monteleone
Hello Mark, thanks for your help, I changed ctc0 to escon0 in my chandev.conf without success. I changed my iodf has recommended. I tried protocol_no value 0, 1, 3 without success. When I try protocol_no=2 i get No such a device even after create /dev/ttyZ0. This is what I get with cat

Re: usejdbc2 missing

2002-05-16 Thread Rich Smrcina
Based on my install experience, that sounds reasonable. There must have been a time when the JDBC levels were mixed between the products. That seems to be behind us at this point. On Thursday 16 May 2002 07:51 am, you wrote: I opened an incident with IBM. This is what they said. The

Re: Mainframe Linux is Dead. Long Live Mainframe Linux

2002-05-16 Thread Alan Cox
The META report says that mainframe configurations of Linux will fall out of favor as soon as 2005, by which time Unix and Intel-based Windows and Linux solutions will have enough mainframe-like features without the mainframe-like costs to make those options the better choice. In a scathing

Re: 2.4.17 Patches - Problems applying

2002-05-16 Thread Pat Carroll
Applying linux-2.4.17-s390.diff by itself and building the kernel results in dasd.c compile failing, so it appears the 2.4.17 source tree on developerworks is seriously broken... Patrick A. Carroll Senior Systems Engineer L. L. Bean Casco St Freeport, ME 04033 (207) 552-2426 [EMAIL

Multipath I/O on 390 Linux

2002-05-16 Thread Don Mulvey
I have heard that multipath i/o is supported on s390 and was curious how this is accomplished. If anyone has any information I'd appreciate a reference or a reply to this post. On other architectures, multipath i/o is handled in the scsi layer, using the scsi id found on newer drives.

Re: Mainframe Linux is Dead. Long Live Mainframe Linux

2002-05-16 Thread Phil Payne
Historically Meta have always been very anti Linux ... http://www.itworld.com/nl/it_insights/09042001/pf_index.html ? -- Phil Payne http://www.isham-research.com +44 7785 302 803 +49 173 6242039

Re: Anyone know how to take your LVM with you?

2002-05-16 Thread p43cibmgs-Arden
Thanks to all who replied to this question. Looks like everyone who replied did so directly to me instead of the forum, so I'll include this for reference. This reply from Mark is what did the trick. We are using the Sistina LVM and the Howto is short and to the point. The only problems I

Re: Mainframe Linux is Dead. Long Live Mainframe Linux

2002-05-16 Thread Jay Maynard
On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 03:51:25PM +0200, Phil Payne wrote: Historically Meta have always been very anti Linux ... http://www.itworld.com/nl/it_insights/09042001/pf_index.html ? This article looks to me like it's damning with faint praise: they saw the handwriting on the wall, and had to say

ESCON CTC between Linux LPAR and MVS LPAR

2002-05-16 Thread Thomas Kunz
Good Morning - I am trying to install redhat 7.2 linux on a s390 lpar. I downloaded the tapeinrd.img and the tapekrnl.img from ftp.redhat.com in /pub/redhat/linux/7.2/en/s390/images and created a parmfile. The system Boots fine and I get the prompt for a FQDN, etc. and a device type which if I

Re: Multipath I/O on 390 Linux

2002-05-16 Thread Jim Elliott
I have heard that multipath i/o is supported on s390 and was curious how this is accomplished. If anyone has any information I'd appreciate a reference or a reply to this post. On other architectures, multipath i/o is handled in the scsi layer, using the scsi id found on newer drives.

Re: Multipath I/O on 390 Linux

2002-05-16 Thread Rich Smrcina
Multipathing is handled by the I/O processors of the S/390. Linux doesn't even know (or care) that it is happening. On Thursday 16 May 2002 08:45 am, you wrote: I have heard that multipath i/o is supported on s390 and was curious how this is accomplished. If anyone has any information I'd

Re: Kernel commentary/books

2002-05-16 Thread Dwight Tuinstra
Depends on your need, of course. There's the O'Reilly book Understanding the Linux Kernel (http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxkernel), but it's meant as an OS course text or supplement, and is a bit dated. It focuses on the 2.2 kernel (with sections at the end of each chapter about changes to

Re: Multipath I/O on 390 Linux

2002-05-16 Thread Terrence W. Zellers
On Thu, 16 May 2002, Don Mulvey wrote: I have heard that multipath i/o is supported on s390 and was curious how this is accomplished. If anyone has any information I'd appreciate a reference or a reply to this post. On other architectures, multipath i/o is handled in the scsi layer,

Re: Antwort: Re: synchronize passwords

2002-05-16 Thread Carlos Ordonez
In the redbook Linux for s/390 and zSeries: distributions there is a chapter that shows how to setup LDAP for authentication. Authenticating against RACF has limitations because you can only have one RACF user profile with a specific name. In other words one ROOT user only. SO if you are doing a

Re: Multipath I/O on 390 Linux

2002-05-16 Thread Rich Smrcina
In the case of connecting SCSI devices to the Shark, the system to be connected has two SCSI cards and each card is connect to separate SCSI adapters on the Shark. There is also a special driver that needs to be installed (called DPO, dual path option) that handles the multipathing function. On

Re: VM Performance Education, still seats left.

2002-05-16 Thread Patterson, Ross
Barton Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tom Beretvas, Mr. DASD, previously of IBM, author of many performance papers and presentations on DASD performance. Tom is bringing his world class DASD performance background to the Linux and VM environment to help us all better understand how to

Re: Mainframe Linux is Dead. Long Live Mainframe Linux

2002-05-16 Thread Post, Mark K
I looked at the article. They seem to have a single-minded view that Linux is going to, actually _must_, fragment or fork at some point in the future. That colors the rest of their analysis for me, as it seems to indicate a severe lack of understanding of the Linux community. There have always

Re: Mainframe Linux is Dead. Long Live Mainframe Linux

2002-05-16 Thread Alan Cox
necessarily leading to a permanent forking of the code. Even if it does, Linus owns the rights to the Linux trademark, and if someone goes too far overboard, he has the ability to prevent them from calling it Linux. I would be surprised if it ever goes that far. Whats interesting is that

Re: Mainframe Linux is Dead. Long Live Mainframe Linux

2002-05-16 Thread Phil Payne
Whats interesting is that not only do the distributors want to avoid fragmentation (your maintenance cost rises steeply with each shift you make away from the base tree) but the customers understand the importance. The enterprise customers are quite open that anyone who goes off on a weird

Re: VARBusiness Article: Why We Love Linux

2002-05-16 Thread Jim Elliott
Here is the URL for the article Mark referred to. http://vb.channelsupersearch.com/news/var/35257.asp Salomon Smith Barney is a unit of CitiGroup. Regards, Jim

Re: Multipath I/O on 390 Linux

2002-05-16 Thread Michael MacIsaac
the OS doesn't need to know about the multiple paths For high availability, yes. But for performance, I was *under the impression* that Linux needs to be fooled into using the multiple paths (haven't been able to confirm this with end-to-end performance tests). This is done by LVM or

IBM's Linux Software Evaluation Kit Has Been Updated

2002-05-16 Thread Post, Mark K
For anyone that ordered the free IBM Linux SEK, it has been updated. I just got this email notification today. Please note that this is for Intel Linux systems only. When you downloaded the IBM Software Evaluation Kit (SEK) for Linux, you requested to be notified by e-mail when IBM updates

Re: Anyone know how to take your LVM with you?

2002-05-16 Thread Post, Mark K
It turns out there's a PDF version of the whole LVM HOWTO at http://www.sistina.com/lvm_howtos/lvm_howto.pdf Mark Post -Original Message- From: p43cibmgs-Arden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 10:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Anyone know how to take

LinuxWorld Demo (Cloning Linux images under zVM using IUCV) package is available

2002-05-16 Thread Tung-Sing Chong
Hi, With the activities I have seen on this mailing list, I am sure most of you are experts at cloning Linux images/instances on z/VM by now. For some of the new people who just got started with Linux on zSeries/S390, I thought it may be still be helpful to share my tools/experience on

Re: Anyone know how to take your LVM with you?

2002-05-16 Thread Jim Sibley
Steve Arden wrote: Does anyone know how to move Logical Volumes from one Linux guest to another? I haven't tried 2.2.16 to 2.4.7, but I have moved LVM between LPAR systems. 1) on the new system, do a vgscan to locate all the LVM volumes 2) activate the volume groups with vgchange -a y vgname

Re: VARBusiness Article: Why We Love Linux

2002-05-16 Thread Post, Mark K
A unit of, but not the whole group. Doctor Robinson from Salomon Smith Barney gave a presentation at SHARE 98 on his group's use of Linux/390 that was very well attended. But I don't consider the use of Linux/390 by a subsidiary equivalent to the holding company adopting Linux/390. Terrance

Re: Max # of files

2002-05-16 Thread Jim Sibley
Under 2.4.7, you can use the sysctl command to interrogate and set many kernel variables, including max files sysctl -a | less to see the variables sysctl -w fs.file-max=16834 to increase the maximum number Regards, Jim Linux S/390-zSeries Support, SEEL, IBM Silicon Valley Labs

Re: Multipath I/O on 390 Linux

2002-05-16 Thread Terrence W. Zellers
On Thu, 16 May 2002, Carsten Otte wrote: Hi List-Readers! The kernel of current Linux-Distributions does not support muliple pathes to a dasd device at all. A workaround is to spread the data over multiple devices using LVM or MD in striping mode. Using the same amount of devices like the

Re: High working set

2002-05-16 Thread Rich Smrcina
This is a typical issue with Linux guests. Linux likes to cache it's file system in memory and access of that cache is what you are seeing. There doesn't seem to be a way to turn that function off, but it's ramifications can be reduced to a certain extent. Purposely constraining Linux's memory

Re: High working set

2002-05-16 Thread Romney White
Lionel: Without the timer patch, Linux wakes up every 100 milliseconds or so. That causes VM to assume it's actually doing something, so its working set never gets trimmed. Your best bet is to apply the timer patch. Romney On Thu, 16 May 2002 09:51:18 -0700 Lionel Dyck said: Is there any

Re: Multipath I/O on 390 Linux

2002-05-16 Thread Rob van der Heij
Well, there seems to be some disagreement here. And some misunderstanding as well. When Jim talks about multiple paths for the I/O, it is multiple paths to the control unit (that has a bunch of devices). So you can have multiple I/O's active at the same time to different devices on the same

Re: High working set

2002-05-16 Thread Rob van der Heij
At 19:47 16-05-02, Romney White wrote: Without the timer patch, Linux wakes up every 100 milliseconds or so. That causes VM to assume it's actually doing something, so its working set never gets trimmed. Your best bet is to apply the timer patch. But 'never' as in 'unless it really has to' If

Re: High working set

2002-05-16 Thread Post, Mark K
Just for the sake of accuracy, it's 100Hz, or every 10 milliseconds, a whole order of magnitude worse. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Romney White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 1:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: High working set Lionel: Without

Re: Multipath I/O on 390 Linux

2002-05-16 Thread Jim Elliott
Well, there seems to be some disagreement here. And some misunderstanding as well. When Jim talks about multiple paths for the I/O, it is multiple paths to the control unit (that has a bunch of devices). So you can have multiple I/O's active at the same time to different devices on the same

The Underdog Wins Another Round

2002-05-16 Thread Post, Mark K
Microsoft's claim to the word Windows suffered another blow this week when a federal judge again questioned the company's assertion that the term is not generic. The judge also repeated his denial of Microsoft's request to shut down the Lindows.com site and block its owner from advertising its

unresolved symbols in OCO modules on RedHat

2002-05-16 Thread Murray Butler
Hello- I have an interesting issue (at least I think it's interesting). I'm running redhat 7.2 with the 2.4.9-21 kernel, I pulled down the OCO modules for the qeth and qdio drivers from developerworks (for my kernel version), and attempted to load them into the kernel (after the

Re: ESCON CTC between Linux LPAR and MVS LPAR

2002-05-16 Thread Post, Mark K
Tom, As you've discovered, there are some oddities about the way ESCON channel definitions work with Linux 2.4. One of those is that you should pass a value of escon0 to the chandev layer, but the actual device name that gets created is ctc0. I view this as a bug, but haven't pursued it, yet.

Re: unresolved symbols in OCO modules on RedHat

2002-05-16 Thread Post, Mark K
This could be a mis-match between the kernel and module in terms of whether module versioning is turned on or not, or whether SMP is turned on or not. Try doing grep remove_wait_queue_R /proc/ksyms and see what comes out. On my Red Hat 7.2 system, I get the matching 0001d4b4

Re: SLE - Maximum Network I/O Buffer Size

2002-05-16 Thread Rich Smrcina
From what I've seen I think it is typically set to 256K. On Thursday 16 May 2002 03:13 pm, you wrote: I am looking for a parameter that I can set on my Linux system for the Maximum Network I/O Buffer Size (a parameter that controls the size of the buffer used to receive blocks of data from

Re: Timer Patch

2002-05-16 Thread Post, Mark K
I would probably go for the April 15th one, but that may mean you'll need to put on a bunch of other patches as well: linux-2.4.7.tar.gz (original kernel source) + linux-2.4.7-s390.diff (IBM) + linux-2.4.7-s390-1.diff (IBM) +

Re: Timer Patch

2002-05-16 Thread Lionel Dyck
Mark - thanks. There was a collision with the iucv module with patch 7 which prompted my question. Lionel B. Dyck, Systems Software Lead Kaiser Permanente Information Technology 25 N. Via Monte Ave Walnut Creek, Ca 94598

Re: ESCON CTC between Linux LPAR and MVS LPAR

2002-05-16 Thread Thomas Kunz
Thanks for the suggestions - I did make sure the my read and write channels cross connected. I was reading the Device Drivers and Installation Commands for Linux Kernel 2.4 for S/390 and some things that I don't understand are: What is the difference between CTC/ESCON with the channel device

Yahoo Article: Linux grabs big win with Reuters

2002-05-16 Thread Post, Mark K
such as stock traders to retrieve and digest financial statistics and news. The software runs on both workstations and servers. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/cn/20020516/tc_cn/linux_grabs _big_win_with_reuters Mark Post

Re: ESCON CTC between Linux LPAR and MVS LPAR

2002-05-16 Thread paultz
Tom, I had similar problems going from RH6.2 to 7.2. I also have the same configuration you are using (ESCON CTC, Linux LPAR, and z/OS 1.2 on the other end). In RH6.2 I would define escon0=, but had no success with that in 7.2. Here is what I did get to work (with a lot of help from Mark and

Re: Timer Patch

2002-05-16 Thread Mcphillips, James
This is where distributors make their money. I spent a week configuring and recompiling theSLES7 kernel to include NO-100Hz-Support, only to find that the OCO's supplied by IBM don't support SMP. IBM instructed me to get the RPM's from SuSE. They installed in about 2 minutes.

zSeries Technical Conference featuring z/OS, z/VM, and Linux

2002-05-16 Thread Pamela Christina IBM z/VM
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Red Hat 7.2 install - problem with fdasd

2002-05-16 Thread Makhijani, Beena
I am installing Red Hat 7.2 in an LPAR and am using Anaconda. I am at the stage where I am partitioning the DASD with fdasd. I used command n to create the new partitions and when I issue command p, I see the partitions. I then use command w to exit but I find that the partitioning is lost.