IBM zEnterprise System announced

2010-07-22 Thread Jim Elliott
The IBM zEnterprise System has been announced. Check out the web site at http://ibm.com/systems/zenterprise Jim -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the

Re: IFL's, VM, and Linux

2010-07-22 Thread Mrohs, Ray
Does he also need: COMMAND SET VCONFIG MODE LINUX due to the mixed environment? Ray Mrohs U.S. Department of Justice 202-307-6896 -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 5:24 PM To:

How can I tell Linux to use IPv4 before IPv6 for DNS resolution?

2010-07-22 Thread Rick Barlow
I have been asked several times by our network people if there is a way to get Linux to stop using IPv6 DNS resolution. With multiple search domains, Linux will try all of them in IPv6 before it tries IPv4. Especially when considering the IBM WebSphere is excessive with its use of DNS lookup,

Re: IBM zEnterprise System announced

2010-07-22 Thread Dave Jones
And what's old is new againthere's a water cooled version of the z196. :-) DJ On 07/22/2010 06:38 AM, Jim Elliott wrote: The IBM zEnterprise System has been announced. Check out the web site at http://ibm.com/systems/zenterprise Jim

Oracle on zLinux

2010-07-22 Thread Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E]
Anybody recommend current install and use doc. We are running z/VM 5.4 and Redhat 5.5. I'm finding a lot of old doc for VM 5.1 and Redhat 4. Bobby Bauer Center for Information Technology National Institutes of Health Bethesda, MD 20892-5628 301-594-7474

Re: IFL's, VM, and Linux

2010-07-22 Thread John Schnitzler Jr
Ed, I think we need to look at your configuration a little deeper. You say that Linux can see all 6 of your real processors. By default VM will give just one virtual processor to a guest. How are you determining that you can get to all 6 processors with Linux? I think you will need to start by

Re: IFL's, VM, and Linux

2010-07-22 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 07/21/2010 at 05:20 EDT, Ed Long rdhm...@prodigy.net wrote: Thanks for thinking about our problem. So does your construct COMMAND DEFINE CPU 00 IFL effectively tell VM to assign the first real IFL to this VM as CPU 00? On our system, the first real IFL is CPU 02 (00 and 01 are

Re: Files on disk

2010-07-22 Thread David Boyes
Does that imply then that a TMC backed up sparse file could not be restored to the same device it came off of? Would TMC attempt to restore all 26G? Yes, and yes. Bitten by that one on Solaris too. -- For LINUX-390

Re: IFL's, VM, and Linux

2010-07-22 Thread Ed Long
Thank you for the clarifications.   The VM LPAR in question is also running a z/OS guest hence the need to allocate the real CP's. From the HMC profile perspective, all the engines are shared among all the LPAR's.   Re John S.'s question, we used the VM performance toolkit to observe a

Re: Files on disk

2010-07-22 Thread Edmund R. MacKenty
On Wednesday 21 July 2010 18:26, Sterling James wrote: What's compression set to? I know that has other implications, also. Look at the makesparsefile option for restore. Tivoli Storage Manager backs up a sparse file as a regular file if client compression is off. Set the compression option to

Re: IBM zEnterprise System announced???

2010-07-22 Thread Barton Robinson
So the biggest announcement of the year, i'm on my second pot of coffee, and there's still only one post about this? Is this a non-event? Dave Jones wrote: And what's old is new againthere's a water cooled version of the z196. :-) DJ On 07/22/2010 06:38 AM, Jim Elliott wrote: The IBM

Re: IBM zEnterprise System announced???

2010-07-22 Thread Marcy Cortes
Maybe everyone is waiting for the webcast. The name is a little weird. Sounds speedy - what do *you* think about it? Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use,

Re: IBM zEnterprise System announced???

2010-07-22 Thread Harder, Pieter
Not the webcast, reading the Redbooks. Best regards, Pieter Harder pieter.har...@brabantwater.nl tel +31-73-6837133 / +31-6-47272537 -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] Namens Marcy Cortes Verzonden: donderdag 22 juli 2010 17:37 Aan:

Dev DASD

2010-07-22 Thread Scully, William P
Where or how is a disk address mapped to /dev/dasdx (where x is a, b, c)? I ask because at install time I am -certain- that I instructed the partitioner to make the 200 disk to be /dev/dasda1, the 201 to be /dev/dasdb1, and 202 to be /dev/dasdc1. (I have a screen-shot of the VNC windows, but

Re: IBM zEnterprise System announced???

2010-07-22 Thread Barton Robinson
Ok, i listened to the announcement too. It does solve a lot of problems. The issue with consolidating windows workloads - this would NOT be done with emulators on z, the cost of an intel emulator is so high (as anyone with a EECS degree should know). So the choice is convert to Linux, but that

Re: IBM zEnterprise System announced???

2010-07-22 Thread Gentry, Stephen
I was expecting more in the x86 area (Windoz, specifically servers) as that is a much needed consolidation area. Or did I miss something? -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Barton Robinson Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 1:45 PM To:

Re: IBM zEnterprise System announced???

2010-07-22 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 07/22/2010 at 11:34 EDT, Barton Robinson bar...@vm1.velocity-software.com wrote: So the biggest announcement of the year, i'm on my second pot of coffee, and there's still only one post about this? Is this a non-event? Kind of hard to talk about the enhancements in support of

Re: IBM zEnterprise System announced???

2010-07-22 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 07/22/2010 at 02:03 EDT, Gentry, Stephen stephen.gen...@lafayettelife.com wrote: I was expecting more in the x86 area (Windoz, specifically servers) as that is a much needed consolidation area. Or did I miss something? From the FAQ: Q: Will the zEnterprise System support for

Re: Dev DASD

2010-07-22 Thread Steffen Maier
On 07/22/2010 06:30 PM, Scully, William P wrote: Where or how is a disk address mapped to /dev/dasdx (where x is a, b, c)? I ask because at install time I am -certain- that I instructed the partitioner to make the 200 disk to be /dev/dasda1, the 201 to be /dev/dasdb1, and 202 to be

Re: IBM zEnterprise System announced???

2010-07-22 Thread Jim Elliott
I was expecting more in the x86 area (Windoz, specifically servers) as that is a much needed consolidation area. Or did I miss something? Stephen: The management functions in zBX and URM depend heavily on interfaces to the hypervisor and the operating system. With PowerVM and KVM, and AIX and

Re: Oracle on zLinux

2010-07-22 Thread Jim Elliott
Anybody recommend current install and use doc. We are running z/VM 5.4 and Redhat 5.5. I'm finding a lot of old doc for VM 5.1 and Redhat 4. Bobby: http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247634.html Jim -- For LINUX-390

Re: IBM zEnterprise System announced

2010-07-22 Thread Jim Elliott
And what's old is new againthere's a water cooled version of the z196. :-) Dave: zEnterprise is just following x86 and RISC here. Water is much better at cooling that air and this does improve the environmentals over time. There is a higher up front cost however. Jim

Re: Oracle on zLinux

2010-07-22 Thread Ray Waters
Jim, Try this link. I am running zVM 540 and had no experience with Oracle, now I am running 10gR2 in a testing mode on our z9. http://www.oracle.com/technology/documentation/database10gR2.html Ray Waters -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On

Re: IBM zEnterprise System announced???

2010-07-22 Thread Barton Robinson
Alan, are you trying to make this announcement so totally boring on purpose? Just business as usual? nothing really new and exciting? Is there anything here you could make exciting and explain why someone would care? (faster is just expected, no longer exciting, more memory? no support by z/vm

Re: IBM zEnterprise System announced

2010-07-22 Thread Rodger Donaldson
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 03:11:03PM -0400, Jim Elliott wrote: And what's old is new againthere's a water cooled version of the z196. :-) Dave: zEnterprise is just following x86 and RISC here. Water is much better at cooling that air and this does improve the environmentals over time.

Re: IBM zEnterprise System announced???

2010-07-22 Thread Dave Jones
So true, Barton.nothing to see here...move along :-) I'd like more technical details on how workloads running on zLinux can be integrated with supporting processes running on the blade Linux. can a zLinux process control a blade server Linux process directly and if so, how? Nonetheless,

Re: IBM zEnterprise System announced

2010-07-22 Thread Dave Jones
On 07/22/2010 02:11 PM, Jim Elliott wrote: And what's old is new againthere's a water cooled version of the z196. :-) Dave: zEnterprise is just following x86 and RISC here. Water is much Which in turn followed the S/370.:-) LOL better at cooling that air and this does improve the

Re: IBM zEnterprise System announced???

2010-07-22 Thread Marcy Cortes
If the hw+sw combo is cheaper than nehalem intel as the webcast suggested, that is huge. Too many people only look at HW/SW and think that that is TCO because the rest is too difficult to calculate (or they are politically motivated not to count the other stuff). I would think the increased

Re: IBM zEnterprise System announced???

2010-07-22 Thread Marcy Cortes
Oh, by we I meant the linux-390 community. Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information

Re: IBM zEnterprise System announced???

2010-07-22 Thread Mark Post
On 7/22/2010 at 05:29 PM, Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com wrote: Oh, by we I meant the linux-390 community. And here I thought you were going all Royal on us. :) Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff

Re: IBM zEnterprise System announced???

2010-07-22 Thread Marcy Cortes
LOL. I was trying to say that to me it seems like the zBX will (at least initially) be directed at adding some functionality (or maybe even offload because of that pesky sw bill issue that ziips and zaaps try to fix) to z/OS only. The Smart Analytics Optimizer is an example of that. One

Re: IBM zEnterprise System announced???

2010-07-22 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 07/22/2010 at 04:58 EDT, Dave Jones d...@vsoft-software.com wrote: So true, Barton.nothing to see here...move along :-) I'd like more technical details on how workloads running on zLinux can be integrated with supporting processes running on the blade Linux. can a zLinux

Re: IBM zEnterprise System announced???

2010-07-22 Thread Marcy Cortes
Alan wrote: - Politics. A way different definition of turf. When is Distributed not Distributed? When it's part of zEnterprise. What's with the French accent Alan? I thought Altmark was German or Danish or something? But zee Enterprise sounds a lot better than zed Enterprise for sure.

Re: IBM zEnterprise System announced???

2010-07-22 Thread Shane G
Barton yanking Alans chain ... Where have I seen that before ?. Shane ... On Fri, Jul 23rd, 2010 at 5:26 AM, Barton Robinson wrote: Alan, are you trying to make this announcement so totally boring on purpose? Just business as usual? nothing really new and exciting? Is there anything here

Re: IBM zEnterprise System announced???

2010-07-22 Thread Mark Post
On 7/22/2010 at 06:19 PM, Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com wrote: Sounds like it will be talking over that private IP network rather than some sort of CP co-processor though, so anything is possible. I didn't see any mention of an IP network, just that it was private. That

Re: IBM zEnterprise System announced???

2010-07-22 Thread Marcy Cortes
Argh, not SNA I hope! What else could it be? Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any

Re: IBM zEnterprise System announced???

2010-07-22 Thread Scott Rohling
it's a marketing thing.. we wouldn't understand ;-) Scott Rohling On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Shane G ibm-m...@tpg.com.au wrote: Barton yanking Alans chain ... Where have I seen that before ?. Shane ... On Fri, Jul 23rd, 2010 at 5:26 AM, Barton Robinson wrote: Alan, are you

Re: IBM zEnterprise System announced???

2010-07-22 Thread Shane G
All the bits are now to be OSA connected. Shane ... On Fri, Jul 23rd, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Mark Post wrote: I didn't see any mention of an IP network, just that it was private. That could mean a lot of things. -- For LINUX-390

Re: How can I tell Linux to use IPv4 before IPv6 for DNS resolution?

2010-07-22 Thread Mark Post
On 7/22/2010 at 08:48 AM, Rick Barlow rrhbar...@gmail.com wrote: I have been asked several times by our network people if there is a way to get Linux to stop using IPv6 DNS resolution. With multiple search domains, Linux will try all of them in IPv6 before it tries IPv4. Especially when

Re: How can I tell Linux to use IPv4 before IPv6 for DNS resolution?

2010-07-22 Thread Richard Troth
The IPv6 module was required for layer 3 NICs. On 2010-07-22, Mark Post mp...@novell.com wrote: On 7/22/2010 at 08:48 AM, Rick Barlow rrhbar...@gmail.com wrote: I have been asked several times by our network people if there is a way to get Linux to stop using IPv6 DNS resolution. With

Re: IBM zEnterprise System announced???

2010-07-22 Thread Dave Jones
Thanks, Alan, that's what I wanted to knowwe still treat these blades as distributed servers, only they're connected to the z via a secure, fast, internal network. Excellent. DJ On 07/22/2010 05:29 PM, Alan Altmark wrote: On Thursday, 07/22/2010 at 04:58 EDT, Dave

Re: IBM zEnterprise System announced???

2010-07-22 Thread Ivica Brodaric
Nothing new about automated failover/DR? Something GDPS-like running on a beefed-up HMC or on something smaller than another mainframe? Some of us don't have z/OS and would be reluctant to put more eggs in the same basket... --

Re: How can I tell Linux to use IPv4 before IPv6 for DNS resolution?

2010-07-22 Thread Mark Post
On 7/22/2010 at 08:29 PM, Richard Troth vmcow...@gmail.com wrote: The IPv6 module was required for layer 3 NICs. I just tried it in SLES10 SP3. Works just fine with either Layer 2 or 3 without IPV6. SLES11 requires it for Layer 3, but that just tells you what you need to do when installing

Re: IBM zEnterprise System announced???

2010-07-22 Thread David Boyes
Argh, not SNA I hope! Well, we *were* consulted... 8-) What else could it be? They wouldn't let me do MOP or DECnet phase IV, so I went home. Boo hoo. -- db PS -- *grin* -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive