Re: Linux ready for the desktop: IBM

2003-11-12 Thread Jim Elliott
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/33923.html Can those working for IBM confirm that IBM believes this? I would find it much more convicing if I heard that IBM is using it thus, best if it's the preferred desktop. Well I don't know what you want us to confirm. Sam's comments as reported

Re: LVM problems on SLES8 SP3 beta

2003-11-12 Thread Lucius, Leland
Michael, I have been runing 54 for few days and seems to work. However this release broke OSA connection, it fails to init osa card in boot time and hangs, haven't found any solution yet. Has SuSE updated you past -54? For the fun of it, I downloaded -60 from X86-64 dist and OSAs seem to

Re: Linux ready for the desktop: IBM

2003-11-12 Thread John Summerfield
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Jim Elliott wrote: Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 02:40:41 EST From: Jim Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Linux ready for the desktop: IBM http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/33923.html Can those

Re: qdio problem

2003-11-12 Thread Dennis Musselwhite
Hi... The following response: qeth: Trying to use card with devnos 0x504/0x505/0x503 qeth: received an IDX TERMINATE on irq 0x8/0x9 with cause code 0x04 qeth: IDX_ACTIVATE on read channel irq 0x8: negative reply qeth: There were problems in hard-setting up the card. indicates (cause code

bash and zsh question

2003-11-12 Thread Froberg, David C
Curious if anyone has tried shifting from using bash to zsh. If someone did switch or tried it and gave up, I would be curious to know what you encountered. Dave Froberg

linux and VIPA

2003-11-12 Thread Tim-Chr. Hanschen
Hi, I want to implement VIPAs in my linux environment. First of all I defined an alias on the network interface. Fine. This alias got my VIPA-adress. In order to propagate this address to the network I used zebra/ospfd... I was able to ping the address and I could use it. Till here, everything is

Re: Linux ready for the desktop: IBM

2003-11-12 Thread Robert J Brenneman
is it used in preference to Windows? AIX? etc. Well, I for one certainly prefer Linux to Windows. I mean - multiple virtual desktops alone make it far more usable. Seperate screens for seperate tasks, and all that. The only thing I have to use Windows for is when I get WordPro or Freelance

Re: Linux ready for the desktop: IBM

2003-11-12 Thread Joe Poole
On Wednesday 12 November 2003 10:33, you wrote: is it used in preference to Windows? AIX? etc. Well, I for one certainly prefer Linux to Windows. I'll second that. In my 2 years of desktop Linux (SuSE), mainly administrative tasks and z/OS and z/VM monitoring, I'm happy. The only thing I

Re: linux and VIPA

2003-11-12 Thread Adam Thornton
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 08:18, Tim-Chr. Hanschen wrote: My question now. How can I tell linux that all ip-traffic is bind to my VIPA-address? This might not be the best way, but you could use iptables, and in the OUTPUT chain, rewrite anything with a source of your physical address to have a

Re: Linux ready for the desktop: IBM

2003-11-12 Thread Adam Thornton
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 09:45, Joe Poole wrote: On Wednesday 12 November 2003 10:33, you wrote: is it used in preference to Windows? AIX? etc. Well, I for one certainly prefer Linux to Windows. I'll second that. In my 2 years of desktop Linux (SuSE), mainly administrative tasks and z/OS

Re: Linux ready for the desktop: IBM

2003-11-12 Thread Dale Strickler
My biggest frustration about the Linux ready for the desktop is that IBM's home/home office page still does not have Linux as an OS option. (Dell and Getyway, the last time I checked don't either.) Until IBM takes the plunge and PROVIDES Linux on the desktop it is hard to convice users that it

Re: Linux ready for the desktop: IBM

2003-11-12 Thread Lionel Dyck
I have to add that until I can run the latest Notes client either natively on linux or under wine the desktop is not ready for prime time. Notes is an IBM product and if they aren't going to enable the Notes client for Linux then IBM is implicitly communicating that Linux is not ready for the

Re: Linux ready for the desktop: IBM

2003-11-12 Thread Tom Duerbusch
About a year and a half ago, IBM (and I want to say Dell) sold laptops and desktops with Linux installed. I still have the IBM catalogs Then Dell pulled their Linux option. Seems Microslop said that offering another operating system was in violation of the agreement for Premier Business

Re: Linux ready for the desktop: IBM

2003-11-12 Thread Richard Troth
IFF what you need is a Unix desktop, then Linux is ready. When I started with BMC in late Spring of 1995, the resources available to me were a bit limitted: I had a 31xx series (IBM, coax) terminal. But while that was fine for my VM tasks, it didn't facilitate my Unix responsibilities. Next I

Re: Linux ready for the desktop: IBM

2003-11-12 Thread Gregg C Levine
Hello (again) from Gregg C Levine That's quite true. Dell, always did look at Linux strangely. During the previous LWE, they were there, if only because Red Hat and, (ugh!), Oracle was. What I find curious is that there is a company called, Emperor Penguin, who will for a reasonable price, sell a

Re: Linux ready for the desktop: IBM

2003-11-12 Thread Adam Thornton
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 11:57, Richard Troth wrote: This is not perfect. (Linux is not ready?) I am looking for a better e-mail program. I *like* MS Outlook. Would be using Outlook if I could get the native Win/2K partition (SCSI) attached to a VMware guest. (SCSI issues with physical

Re: Linux ready for the desktop: IBM

2003-11-12 Thread Richard Troth
Tried Ximian Evolution? Yep. 1.2 comes with the KDE 3.1 (SuSE 8.2 or so) that I am running. It gets a little funky if my evolution directory is on NFS. Bad. I have tried pulling down sources to 1.4.x. No joy. It's just CVS, but I haven't gotten the download automated. I know there are

Re: qdio problem

2003-11-12 Thread Alejandro Leyva Rabinovich
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Dennis Musselwhite wrote: Hi... The following response: qeth: Trying to use card with devnos 0x504/0x505/0x503 qeth: received an IDX TERMINATE on irq 0x8/0x9 with cause code 0x04 qeth: IDX_ACTIVATE on read channel irq 0x8: negative reply qeth: There were problems

LAuS

2003-11-12 Thread Sal Torres/SBC Inc.
from the Release Notes for SLES 8 S/390 zSeries Service Pack 3 (SP3): 1.1.7.1 LAuS was added to the Kernel the Linux Audit System (LAuS) was added to the kernel. This is necessary for the CC-EAL3-Certification. SP3 seems to have lots of changes. Sal

Re: Linux ready for the desktop: IBM

2003-11-12 Thread John Cassidy
Hello all, until the Open Source community come up with something that at least looks like Lookout or Express Lookout, a lot of people will stay with the devil they know. Human beings are... human beings, and until they get such an equivalent from the Linux (Unix) world, they will stay

Re: qdio problem

2003-11-12 Thread Adam Thornton
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 12:16, Alejandro Leyva Rabinovich wrote: Both NIC's came up ok when we run zvm 4.3, the directory entries for the linux vm are exactly the same on both systems, and the linux configuration doesnt change, thats indicate that the problem isnt linux configuration, maybe the

Re: qdio problem

2003-11-12 Thread Alejandro Leyva Rabinovich
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Adam Thornton wrote: On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 12:16, Alejandro Leyva Rabinovich wrote: Both NIC's came up ok when we run zvm 4.3, the directory entries for the linux vm are exactly the same on both systems, and the linux configuration doesnt change, thats indicate that

Re: Linux ready for the desktop: IBM

2003-11-12 Thread Adam Thornton
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 12:41, John Cassidy wrote: Hello all, until the Open Source community come up with something that at least looks like Lookout or Express Lookout, a lot of people will stay with the devil they know. Human beings are... human beings, and until they get such an

sles8 sp3 iso's?

2003-11-12 Thread Little, Chris
does anyone know if suse will provide sp3 as an iso? or will i have to download each rpm? +--- + | Chris Little[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Ok Dept of Human Services Data Services Division

Re: sles8 sp3 iso's?

2003-11-12 Thread Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS)
I've already sent them a note asking about this. IBM couldn't find ISO's either. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Little, Chris Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 2:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LINUX-390] sles8 sp3 iso's?

Re: sles8 sp3 iso's?

2003-11-12 Thread Sal Torres/SBC Inc.
*** Reply to note of Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:06:25 -0500 (EST/CDT) *** by [EMAIL PROTECTED] I did it using yast2 online update. sal Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've already sent them a note asking about this. IBM couldn't find ISO's either. -Original Message- From:

Adding DASD to a guest, going from zipl.conf to dasdfmt w/o a reboot

2003-11-12 Thread Eric Sammons
I am searching for ways to ensure maximum up time of my z/Linux environment. As such, I am wondering, when adding dasd to the environment is there a way to go from editing the zipl.conf file to dasdfmt without rebooting. Currently, I add my device to zipl.conf and then execute zipl followed by a

Re: sles8 sp3 iso's?

2003-11-12 Thread Greg Smith
Little, Chris wrote: does anyone know if suse will provide sp3 as an iso? or will i have to download each rpm? I'm currently using yast2 to download the lot. My online update screen shows: Retrieving patch-8623: Security update for CUPS Ok Retrieving patch-8634: SLES 8 S/390 zSeries Service Pack

Re: Adding DASD to a guest, going from zipl.conf to dasdfmt w/o a reboot

2003-11-12 Thread Adam Thornton
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 13:35, Eric Sammons wrote: I am searching for ways to ensure maximum up time of my z/Linux environment. As such, I am wondering, when adding dasd to the environment is there a way to go from editing the zipl.conf file to dasdfmt without rebooting. Currently, I add my

OSA PORTNAME problems.

2003-11-12 Thread Antônio Pires de Castro Jr.
Hi, Why a VM set the OSA portname just in uppercase??? I wrote portname, in tcpip profile, in lowercase, and when I tried to config a Linux in this OSA I needed to put the portname, in chandev.conf file, in uppercase. How can I solve it? I need to put the VM portname in lowercase. []' s, --

Re: Linux ready for the desktop: IBM

2003-11-12 Thread Chris Cox
John Cassidy wrote: Hello all, until the Open Source community come up with something that at least looks like Lookout or Express Lookout, a lot of people will stay with the devil they know. Human beings are... human beings, and until they get such an equivalent from the Linux (Unix)

Re: Adding DASD to a guest, going from zipl.conf to dasdfmt w/o a reboot

2003-11-12 Thread Eric Sammons
Using the following, which was provided to me, # echo add device range=0206 /proc/dasd/devices I took the liberty of modifing the command to have so that I don't blow away my devices file. I then execute the following dasdfmt command: dasdfmt -y -b 4096 -n 0206 dasdfmt: Unable to open device

Re: Adding DASD to a guest, going from zipl.conf to dasdfmt w/o a reboot

2003-11-12 Thread Adam Thornton
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 14:10, Eric Sammons wrote: Using the following, which was provided to me, # echo add device range=0206 /proc/dasd/devices I took the liberty of modifing the command to have so that I don't blow away my devices file. Actually, it won't. It's not really a file, it's

Re: Adding DASD to a guest, going from zipl.conf to d asdfmt w/o a reboot

2003-11-12 Thread Marcy Cortes
I then execute the following dasdfmt command: dasdfmt -y -b 4096 -n 0206 dasdfmt: Unable to open device /dev/dasd/0206/device: No such file or directory 0206(ECKD) at ( 94: 28) is dasdh : active at blocksize: 4096, 594000 blocks, 2320 MB Anyidea what is happening here? I have

Re: Adding DASD to a guest, going from zipl.conf to dasdfmt w/o a reboot

2003-11-12 Thread Wolfe, Gordon W
Why go through all the trouble? Just create the zipl.conf file with enough dasd devices in it to cover future expansion. I use devices 290-2AF so I have 32 devices created in zipl.conf. I may only use three or four of them, but who cares? When I want to add another device to a server, just

Re: Adding DASD to a guest, going from zipl.conf to dasdfmt w/o a reboot

2003-11-12 Thread Adam Thornton
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 14:38, Wolfe, Gordon W wrote: Why go through all the trouble? Just create the zipl.conf file with enough dasd devices in it to cover future expansion. I use devices 290-2AF so I have 32 devices created in zipl.conf. I may only use three or four of them, but who cares?

Re: Adding DASD to a guest, going from zipl.conf to dasdfmt w/o a reboot

2003-11-12 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 21:10, Eric Sammons wrote: dasdfmt -y -b 4096 -n 0206 dasdfmt: Unable to open device /dev/dasd/0206/device: No such file or directory The dasdfmt utility is assuming DEVFS active. You should use dasdfmt -f /dev/dasdh -b 4096 Rob

Re: sles8 sp3 iso's?

2003-11-12 Thread Daniel Jarboe
does anyone know if suse will provide sp3 as an iso? or will i have to download each rpm? And any idea where the src.rpm's can be found? ~ Daniel --- This message is the property of Time Inc. or its affiliates. It

Re: sles8 sp3 iso's?

2003-11-12 Thread Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS)
Try: http://sdb.suse.de/download/s390/update/SuSE-SLES/8/sources/ -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Daniel Jarboe Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 4:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] sles8 sp3 iso's? does anyone

Re: Linux ready for the desktop: IBM

2003-11-12 Thread David Goodenough
I have been running Notes under Wine (albeit Notes 5, 6 seems to have some problems still) since well before 9/11, and this note was written in exactly that way. David Lionel Dyck Lionel.B.Dyck@To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: OSA PORTNAME problems.

2003-11-12 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 11/12/2003 at 05:43 ZW2, Antônio Pires de Castro Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Why a VM set the OSA portname just in uppercase??? I wrote portname, in tcpip profile, in lowercase, and when I tried to config a Linux in this OSA I needed to put the portname, in chandev.conf

Re: Linux ready for the desktop: IBM

2003-11-12 Thread Jim Elliott
David - true - Notes R5 runs very well under Linux/Wine. It was Notes 6 (the latest and greatest) that I was referring to. I complained during the early support program for 6.0 and for 6.5 with no success as it was not a priority for them. I have been told that 6.5 works under the current

Re: Linux ready for the desktop: IBM

2003-11-12 Thread Jim Elliott
That is the kind of thing I was hoping someone would say (though I didn't really expect it!). Thanks. Saying, Linux is ready for the desktop, is one thing, but Linux is ready for the desktop _and we're using it_ are very different statements. Note that we do not believe Linux is ready for

Re: Linux ready for the desktop: IBM

2003-11-12 Thread John Summerfield
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Richard Troth wrote: Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:57:52 -0600 From: Richard Troth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Linux ready for the desktop: IBM IFF what you need is a Unix desktop, then Linux is ready.

Re: Linux ready for the desktop: IBM

2003-11-12 Thread John Summerfield
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Jim Elliott wrote: Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:31:23 EST From: Jim Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Linux ready for the desktop: IBM David - true - Notes R5 runs very well under Linux/Wine. It was

Re: Linux ready for the desktop: IBM

2003-11-12 Thread John Summerfield
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Jim Elliott wrote: Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:35:26 EST From: Jim Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Linux ready for the desktop: IBM That is the kind of thing I was hoping someone would say

Re: Linux ready for the desktop: IBM

2003-11-12 Thread John Summerfield
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, John Summerfield wrote: I've heard OOo has better compatibility, though I've no tried it yet. I meant to say, OOo 1.1. -- Cheers John. Join the Linux Support by Small Businesses list at http://mail.computerdatasafe.com.au/mailman/listinfo/lssb Copyright John

Re: Linux ready for the desktop: IBM

2003-11-12 Thread Lionel Dyck
I've got Notes 6.5 and a SuSE 8.2 system with the latest version of wine (as far as I know) and I was unable to install Notes 6.5 under it (and I tried using both the last beta and then the gold release candidate and then the posted gold code all with the same lack of success). perhaps my wine

Re: Adding DASD to a guest, going from zipl.conf to dasdfmt w/o a reboot

2003-11-12 Thread James Tison
When I want to add another device to a server, just log on to the server console and issue #CP LINK * 297 297 MR (for some reason, I can't use the hcp command to do this...) #CP DISC The reason you can't use the 'hcp' command to process your LINK statement as shown is the presence of the

Re: Linux ready for the desktop: IBM

2003-11-12 Thread Jim Elliott
I was at an IBM roadshow recently, where IBM talked about Linux virtual srvers, new IBM storage technology and lots of other stuff. Not a mention of Linux on the desktop, and as far as I could find out, none of the IBM folk there new anything about it. I did ask, and I asked some of the same

Re: Linux ready for the desktop: IBM

2003-11-12 Thread Jim Elliott
I've got Notes 6.5 and a SuSE 8.2 system with the latest version of wine (as far as I know) and I was unable to install Notes 6.5 under it (and I tried using both the last beta and then the gold release candidate and then the posted gold code all with the same lack of success). Lionel: The

Re: Linux ready for the desktop: IBM

2003-11-12 Thread John Summerfield
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Jim Elliott wrote: Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 23:03:50 EST From: Jim Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Linux ready for the desktop: IBM I was at an IBM roadshow recently, where IBM talked about Linux