Re: [LAD] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release

2011-01-27 Thread alex stone
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Brett McCoy idragos...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:39 AM, alex stone compos...@gmail.com wrote: We hope you enjoy using OOM2, and should you have anything you'd like to report, please send an email to: developm...@openoctave.org We can also

Re: [LAD] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release

2011-01-27 Thread mickski56
Hi just downloaded and built oom2, all went well. It runs fine. But is there any way to set the install libdir ? I have a 64 bit system with 32 bit libs in /usr/lib which is where oom2 installs its files. A fairly minor niggle I know but if there is a quick fix I would be grateful. I did some

Re: [LAD] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release

2011-01-27 Thread Paul Davis
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:39 AM, alex stone compos...@gmail.com wrote: Deep in the basement of the OpenOctaveProject, the team have been working hard, to bring OpenOctaveMidi into the modern age. From the new interface, to the workflow features, OOM2 is the result of a great deal of hard work,

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: version 1.2

2011-01-27 Thread torbenh
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 01:29:17PM +0100, Tom Szilagyi wrote: 2011/1/26 Jörn Nettingsmeier netti...@folkwang-hochschule.de: since it's based on zita-convolver: did you also use the multi-threaded partitioned convolution approach from jconvolver? Hi Jörn, I'm not sure about the

Re: [LAD] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release

2011-01-27 Thread Paul Davis
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Christopher Cherrett ccherr...@openoctave.org wrote: It is no secret that it was muse2. They suggested we fork. We wanted to stay with them. Neither Muse nor Muse2 are mentioned anywhere on your website. I asked only that you acknowledge the project that you

Re: [LAD] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release

2011-01-27 Thread Christopher Cherrett
Original Message Subject: Re: [LAD] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release From: Paul Davis p...@linuxaudiosystems.com To: Christopher Cherrett ccherr...@openoctave.org Cc: linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org Date: 01/27/2011 09:32 AM On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:14 AM,

Re: [LAD] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release

2011-01-27 Thread alex stone
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Paul Davis p...@linuxaudiosystems.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:39 AM, alex stone compos...@gmail.com wrote: Deep in the basement of the OpenOctaveProject, the team have been working hard, to bring OpenOctaveMidi into the modern age. From the new

Re: [LAD] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release

2011-01-27 Thread Raymond Martin
On January 27, 2011 11:08:30 am Paul Davis wrote: ... while i admire what you are trying to do with OOM/OOM2, the forking of an existing, well-known project, without any attribution whatsoever, or even acknowledgement of the fork, is troubling to say the least. It is not troubling at all. And

Re: [LAD] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release

2011-01-27 Thread Paul Davis
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:46 AM, alex stone compos...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Paul Davis p...@linuxaudiosystems.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:39 AM, alex stone compos...@gmail.com wrote: [ ... ] good grief! i never said you were bad people. i have a lot

Re: [LAD] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release

2011-01-27 Thread Paul Davis
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Raymond Martin lase...@gmail.com wrote: On January 27, 2011 11:08:30 am Paul Davis wrote: ... while i admire what you are trying to do with OOM/OOM2, the forking of an existing, well-known project, without any attribution whatsoever, or even acknowledgement

Re: [LAD] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release

2011-01-27 Thread Chris Cannam
On 27 January 2011 16:37, Christopher Cherrett ccherr...@openoctave.org wrote: OK, it was muse2. Did you ever consider, for example, _not_ assigning yourselves the copyright in the program's About box? This is exactly what happened with Rosegarden for OOM1 -- fork the project, provide a new

Re: [LAD] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release

2011-01-27 Thread Christopher Cherrett
Original Message Subject: Re: [LAD] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release From: Paul Davis p...@linuxaudiosystems.com To: alex stone compos...@gmail.com Cc: LAU Mail List linux-audio-u...@lists.linuxaudio.org, Linux Audio Developers Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org Date:

[LAD] Fwd: Re: [LAU] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release

2011-01-27 Thread Thorsten Wilms
Alex, clearly mentioning the project you forked is just good manners of the kind that should be expected among civilized people. Your overreaction to Paul's mail is one hell of an ugly sight. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/

Re: [LAD] jack_snapshot http://tapas.affenbande.org/

2011-01-27 Thread David Adler
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 11:55 PM, rosea.grammostola wrote: On 01/10/2011 12:22 AM, David Adler wrote: On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 11:32 PM, Paul Davis wrote:  [ ... jack_snapshot ... ] i emailed tapas about this a few months ago, asking if we could host it on jackaudio.org and got no reply. if

Re: [LAD] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release

2011-01-27 Thread alex stone
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 6:59 PM, mickski56 micksk...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi just downloaded and built oom2, all went well. It runs fine. But is there any way to set the install libdir ? I have a 64 bit system with 32 bit libs in /usr/lib which is where oom2 installs its files. A fairly minor

Re: [LAD] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release

2011-01-27 Thread Arnold Krille
On Thursday 27 January 2011 17:51:26 Raymond Martin wrote: On January 27, 2011 11:08:30 am Paul Davis wrote: ... while i admire what you are trying to do with OOM/OOM2, the forking of an existing, well-known project, without any attribution whatsoever, or even acknowledgement of the fork,

Re: [LAD] [LAU] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release

2011-01-27 Thread Christopher Cherrett
Original Message Subject: Re: [LAU] [LAD] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release From: Orcan Ogetbil oget.fed...@gmail.com To: Paul Davis p...@linuxaudiosystems.com Cc: LAU Mail List linux-audio-u...@lists.linuxaudio.org, Linux Audio Developers

Re: [LAD] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release

2011-01-27 Thread Christopher Cherrett
Original Message Subject: Re: [LAD] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release From: Arnold Krille arn...@arnoldarts.de To: linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org Date: 01/27/2011 12:35 PM On Thursday 27 January 2011 17:51:26 Raymond Martin wrote: On January 27, 2011 11:08:30 am Paul

Re: [LAD] [LAU] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release

2011-01-27 Thread Thomas Vecchione
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Christopher Cherrett ccherr...@openoctave.org wrote: I suspect there is much more to this puzzle than attribution. I suspect we rocked the boat just a bit too much and too fast. No, there really isn't.(At least not in as far as the original post that started

Re: [LAD] [LAU] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release

2011-01-27 Thread Christopher Cherrett
Original Message Subject: Re: [LAD] [LAU] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release From: Thomas Vecchione seabla...@gmail.com To: Christopher Cherrett ccherr...@openoctave.org Cc: Orcan Ogetbil oget.fed...@gmail.com, LAU Mail List linux-audio-u...@lists.linuxaudio.org, Linux Audio

[LAD] liblv2-gui, new version coming?

2011-01-27 Thread Michael Bechard
Hi everybody, I'm new to the list. Wassup :) I have a question regarding liblv2-gui. On the site (http://ll-plugins.nongnu.org/liblv2-gui.html) there are warnings all over the place about how the lib is not compatible with rev 3+ of LV2. I searched the archives of this list and Google, but to

Re: [LAD] [LAU] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release

2011-01-27 Thread Thomas Vecchione
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Christopher Cherrett ccherr...@openoctave.org wrote: Seems a bit more than a question, seems there is a few insinuations. Not really. There is the statement that not attributing is not morally correct, and as I said some people do disagree with the choice to

[LAD] What if a fork is not a fork?

2011-01-27 Thread drew Roberts
On Thursday 27 January 2011 11:56:22 Paul Davis wrote: i just don't remember other cases where major existing FLOSS projects were forked This is not about what is going in in this thread in any direct way. (Or may not be at least, I do not know enough to say I guess.) What if I fork a project

Re: [LAD] What if a fork is not a fork?

2011-01-27 Thread Vytautas Jancauskas
Stop forking around On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:57 PM, drew Roberts z...@100jamz.com wrote: On Thursday 27 January 2011 11:56:22 Paul Davis wrote: i just don't remember other cases where major existing FLOSS projects were forked This is not about what is going in in this thread in any

Re: [LAD] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release

2011-01-27 Thread Christopher Cherrett
the fact that you forked Muse and not LMMS, for example, makes OOM2 look much more interesting than it could have been otherwise. Well it was really simple to choose muse. They had the best midi tools to use hands down. I just happen to be a graphic artist and could make it look nice for my

Re: [LAD] What if a fork is not a fork?

2011-01-27 Thread Arnold Krille
On Thursday 27 January 2011 20:57:22 drew Roberts wrote: On Thursday 27 January 2011 11:56:22 Paul Davis wrote: i just don't remember other cases where major existing FLOSS projects were forked This is not about what is going in in this thread in any direct way. (Or may not be at least, I

Re: [LAD] What if a fork is not a fork?

2011-01-27 Thread Christopher Cherrett
Original Message Subject: Re: [LAD] What if a fork is not a fork? From: Arnold Krille arn...@arnoldarts.de To: linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org Date: 01/27/2011 01:15 PM But there is something morally wrong when you tell your users that you used another project as starting

Re: [LAD] [LAU] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release

2011-01-27 Thread Paul Davis
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Christopher Cherrett ccherr...@openoctave.org wrote: Seems a bit more than a question, seems there is a few insinuations. whatever insinuations are there are entirely your own imagination at work. to repeat: i think (and said) that its (quite deeply) wrong to

Re: [LAD] [LAU] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release

2011-01-27 Thread Chris Cannam
On 27 January 2011 19:38, Christopher Cherrett ccherr...@openoctave.org wrote: I suspect there is much more to this puzzle than attribution. No, really not. Attribution is incredibly important to many open source developers, partly because there are so few tangible benefits involved with open

Re: [LAD] What if a fork is not a fork?

2011-01-27 Thread Brett McCoy
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 2:57 PM, drew Roberts z...@100jamz.com wrote: On Thursday 27 January 2011 11:56:22 Paul Davis wrote: i just don't remember other cases where major existing FLOSS projects were forked The only instance I can think of is how Cinepaint (aka Film-Gimp) was forked off from

Re: [LAD] What if a fork is not a fork?

2011-01-27 Thread Geoff Beasley
this thread was always going to happenyou said yourself on IRC Chris Cherrit that you're a difficult guy to get along with; and seems you were right. I don't give a fuck how good you think you are or your team is or your professional team is, or how tired you all are, or how many nice

Re: [LAD] What if a fork is not a fork?

2011-01-27 Thread Paul Davis
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Brett McCoy idragos...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 2:57 PM, drew Roberts z...@100jamz.com wrote: On Thursday 27 January 2011 11:56:22 Paul Davis wrote: i just don't remember other cases where major existing FLOSS projects were forked The only

Re: [LAD] [LAU] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release

2011-01-27 Thread Christopher Cherrett
Original Message Subject: Re: [LAU] [LAD] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release From: Chris Cannam can...@all-day-breakfast.com To: Christopher Cherrett ccherr...@openoctave.org Cc: Orcan Ogetbil oget.fed...@gmail.com, LAU Mail List linux-audio-u...@lists.linuxaudio.org, Linux

Re: [LAD] What if a fork is not a fork?

2011-01-27 Thread Christopher Cherrett
Original Message Subject: Re: [LAD] What if a fork is not a fork? From: Geoff Beasley ge...@laughingboyrecords.com To: Christopher Cherrett ccherr...@openoctave.org Cc: linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org Date: 01/27/2011 01:32 PM this thread was always going to happenyou

Re: [LAD] What if a fork is not a fork?

2011-01-27 Thread Geoff Beasley
On 01/28/2011 07:51 AM, Christopher Cherrett wrote: I understand why you are so resistant against our professional team. hahaha my last comment to you and one this matter... fork off. g. ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list

Re: [LAD] What if a fork is not a fork?

2011-01-27 Thread Christopher Cherrett
Original Message Subject: Re: [LAD] What if a fork is not a fork? From: Geoff Beasley ge...@laughingboyrecords.com To: Christopher Cherrett ccherr...@openoctave.org Cc: linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org Date: 01/27/2011 01:47 PM On 01/28/2011 07:51 AM, Christopher Cherrett

Re: [LAD] [LAU] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release

2011-01-27 Thread gene heskett
On Thursday, January 27, 2011 03:43:40 pm Chris Cannam did opine: On 27 January 2011 19:38, Christopher Cherrett ccherr...@openoctave.org wrote: I suspect there is much more to this puzzle than attribution. No, really not. Attribution is incredibly important to many open source

Re: [LAD] [LAU] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release

2011-01-27 Thread Christopher Cherrett
Original Message Subject: Re: [LAD] [LAU] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release From: gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com To: linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org Date: 01/27/2011 01:57 PM On Thursday, January 27, 2011 03:43:40 pm Chris Cannam did opine: On 27 January 2011 19:38,

Re: [LAD] [LAU] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release

2011-01-27 Thread gene heskett
On Thursday, January 27, 2011 04:02:20 pm Christopher Cherrett did opine: Original Message Subject: Re: [LAD] [LAU] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release From: gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com To: linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org Date: 01/27/2011 01:57 PM On Thursday,

Re: [LAD] [LAU] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release

2011-01-27 Thread Christopher Cherrett
Original Message Subject: Re: [LAD] [LAU] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release From: gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com To: linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org Date: 01/27/2011 02:07 PM On Thursday, January 27, 2011 04:02:20 pm Christopher Cherrett did opine: Original

Re: [LAD] [LAU] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release

2011-01-27 Thread gene heskett
On Thursday, January 27, 2011 04:23:53 pm Christopher Cherrett did opine: Original Message Subject: Re: [LAD] [LAU] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release From: gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com To: linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org Date: 01/27/2011 02:07 PM On Thursday,

[LAD] Attribution for Community Approval

2011-01-27 Thread Christopher Cherrett
Could the community please review the attribution so we may continue with our journey? This attribution appears on the website, github, README and anywhere else you guys need to see it. OOM2 is developed from the base code of MusE (Muse Sequencer) written by the mighty Werner Schweer, and

Re: [LAD] Attribution for Community Approval

2011-01-27 Thread Julien Claassen
Hello all1 I haven't followed the complete discussion, only seen bits of it. But what is so fundamentally wrong with that attribution? Maybe a little short and informal and I don't understand the P.S., but don't explain, I'm sure I can read it for myself, if I'm willing to without waisting

Re: [LAD] [LAU] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release

2011-01-27 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 1/27/11, Christopher Cherrett wrote: We are not like Ardour asking for money all the time. So much for groin-level kicks. You were approached in a civilized way. Paying back with something like this is really low style. I suspect there is much more to this puzzle than attribution. I

Re: [LAD] What if a fork is not a fork?

2011-01-27 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 1/27/11, Brett McCoy wrote: On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 2:57 PM, drew Roberts wrote: On Thursday 27 January 2011 11:56:22 Paul Davis wrote: i just don't remember other cases where major existing FLOSS projects were forked The only instance I can think of is how Cinepaint (aka Film-Gimp) was

Re: [LAD] Attribution for Community Approval

2011-01-27 Thread diego simak
I've followed this conversation from the beginning I'm usually very quiet just reading all the emails from LAU LAD with a very few answers (just because my knowledge from a user and from dev point of view is limited) I do understand the message but i think it needs another PS: Sarcasm