Re: Cross Compiler and loads of issues

2008-06-12 Thread Robert Schwebel
based cross compiler. Is it possible for the inexperienced to get it working and emulate the exact model and devices. No. rsc -- Dipl.-Ing. Robert Schwebel | http://www.pengutronix.de Pengutronix - Linux Solutions for Science and Industry Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Hildesheim, HRA 2686

Re: cross-compiling alternatives (was Re: [PATCH 0/1] Embedded Maintainer(s)...)

2008-06-13 Thread Robert Schwebel
solely using GNU make features -- no preprocessing is required. Last time I looked it had *at least* 0.1% of the autotools features supported :-) rsc -- Dipl.-Ing. Robert Schwebel | http://www.pengutronix.de Pengutronix - Linux Solutions for Science and Industry Handelsregister: Amtsgericht

Re: cross-compiling alternatives (was Re: [PATCH 0/1] Embedded Maintainer(s)...)

2008-06-13 Thread Robert Schwebel
to write a very small, portable, specialised alternative to Make which is small enough to ship with packages that use it? Why on earth would one want to reinvent make? rsc -- Dipl.-Ing. Robert Schwebel | http://www.pengutronix.de Pengutronix - Linux Solutions for Science and Industry

Re: optimal hardware design for an ARM9 based single board computer to work with existing linux drivers

2008-07-05 Thread Robert Schwebel
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Re: building Rootfs

2008-07-07 Thread Robert Schwebel
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Re: building Rootfs

2008-07-08 Thread Robert Schwebel
use gvim¹ :-) rsc ¹ Or even Eclipse vmware, if your software department has a better feeling while using buzzword technology. -- Dipl.-Ing. Robert Schwebel | http://www.pengutronix.de Pengutronix - Linux Solutions for Science and Industry Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Hildesheim, HRA 2686

Re: AT91 kernel programming documentation ?

2008-07-30 Thread Robert Schwebel
/*. It very much depends on what you want to do. Documentation/drivermodel/ might also be worth a look. rsc -- Dipl.-Ing. Robert Schwebel | http://www.pengutronix.de Pengutronix - Linux Solutions for Science and Industry Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Hildesheim, HRA 2686 Hannoversche Str. 2

Re: [patch 2/4] Configure out file locking features

2008-07-31 Thread Robert Schwebel
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Re: [patch 0/4] [resend] Add configuration options to disable features

2008-08-01 Thread Robert Schwebel
applications. rsc -- Dipl.-Ing. Robert Schwebel | http://www.pengutronix.de Pengutronix - Linux Solutions for Science and Industry Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Hildesheim, HRA 2686 Hannoversche Str. 2, 31134 Hildesheim, Germany Phone: +49-5121-206917-0 | Fax: +49-5121-206917-9

Re: [PATCH] bootup: Add built-in kernel command line for x86

2008-08-06 Thread Robert Schwebel
On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 02:31:48PM -0700, Tim Bird wrote: Add support for a built-in command line for x86 architectures. The Kconfig help gives the major rationale for this addition. If this feature is desired on all architectures, shouldn't it go out of arch/? rsc -- Dipl.-Ing. Robert

Re: ELBS mindshare

2008-09-17 Thread Robert Schwebel
the toolkits he knows about and is interested in, ELBS was either the 2nd or 3rd tool that he mentioned. Word is getting around dude. What is ELBS? If it is somehow better than ptxdist, I'll have to apply a few patches there 8-) rsc -- Dipl.-Ing. Robert Schwebel | http://www.pengutronix.de

Re: ELBS mindshare

2008-09-17 Thread Robert Schwebel
configurable rules which are being executed in a dependency-defined order; so in the end, it can built whatever it likes. rsc -- Dipl.-Ing. Robert Schwebel | http://www.pengutronix.de Pengutronix - Linux Solutions for Science and Industry Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Hildesheim, HRA 2686

Re: Getting physical addresses of mmap'd pages from userspace

2008-10-10 Thread Robert Schwebel
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 06:15:05PM +0200, Tom Cooksey wrote: Is there any way to get the physical address of mlock()'d memory from userspace? What do you want to do? I don't really see a reason to do such strange things any more these days. rsc -- Dipl.-Ing. Robert Schwebel | http

Re: Getting physical addresses of mmap'd pages from userspace

2008-10-13 Thread Robert Schwebel
Tom, [Please configure your mail client to break likes @ column 80] On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 08:33:25AM +0200, Tom Cooksey wrote: On Friday 10 October 2008 21:12:13 Robert Schwebel wrote: On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 06:15:05PM +0200, Tom Cooksey wrote: Is there any way to get the physical

Re: Getting physical addresses of mmap'd pages from userspace

2008-10-13 Thread Robert Schwebel
*driver* is IMHO not possible, so we'll have to rely on the proprietary drivers Freescale deliver. Bad, but I don't see another chance by now. rsc -- Dipl.-Ing. Robert Schwebel | http://www.pengutronix.de Pengutronix - Linux Solutions for Science and Industry Handelsregister: Amtsgericht

Re: [Ksummit-2009-discuss] Representing Embedded Architectures at the Kernel Summit

2009-06-02 Thread Robert Schwebel
On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 03:37:44PM -0500, James Bottomley wrote: The topic of flattened device tree look interesting to me (perhaps because I'm a hardened device driver person and things like that always look interesting to me) ... The recent oftree activities look indeed very promising; the

Re: Representing Embedded Architectures at the Kernel Summit

2009-06-02 Thread Robert Schwebel
On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 10:10:58PM +0100, Russell King wrote: I really don't think combining SoC support is going to be realistic, device tree or not. When we had just four machine types (RiscPC, EBSA110, EBSA285, Netwinder) I did look into this and came to the conclusion that it would be far

Re: flicker free booting

2009-07-31 Thread Robert Schwebel
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:48:37PM -0700, Tim Bird wrote: Those fractions-of-seconds boot times are beyond the reach of the 200 MHz-class ARM9 processors and similar, where it takes two or three seconds just to load and uncompress the kernel from NOR or NAND flash. While I don't disagree

Re: New fast(?)-boot results on ARM

2009-08-14 Thread Robert Schwebel
Zan, On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 12:19:48PM -0600, Zan Lynx wrote: That's factor 70 away from the 110 ms boot time Tim has talked about some days ago (and he measured on an ARM cpu which had almost half the speed of this one), and I'm wondering what we can do to improve the boot time. 2.4s

Re: New fast(?)-boot results on ARM

2009-08-18 Thread Robert Schwebel
Marco, On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 12:06:48PM +0200, Marco Stornelli wrote: Yeah, I agree, do you really need udevd, device file creation at every start-up in /dev? Usually static devices nodes and mdev for hotplug are enough or at least you could use a simple script to create only once time the

Re: New fast(?)-boot results on ARM

2009-08-18 Thread Robert Schwebel
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 12:34:52PM +0200, Alex Riesen wrote: On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 12:21, Robert Schwebelr.schwe...@pengutronix.de wrote: - In general we want to have our systems close to what the mainline  does; Automation Embedded is only a small market, and anything  which is *not*

Re: New fast(?)-boot results on ARM

2009-08-18 Thread Robert Schwebel
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 12:48:50PM +0200, Alex Riesen wrote: But many of the problems you described and suggested solutions point at userspace, right? (like pre-defined static /dev, mdev script, or using of specially designed rootfs) Yes, right. But even there, mdev is more in the embedded

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CELF open project proposal

2009-12-03 Thread Robert Schwebel
Hi David, On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 09:59:50PM +, David Woodhouse wrote: On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 13:46 -0800, Tim Bird wrote: It applies to anything in the embedded Linux ecosystem. This would very much include open source boot loaders like U-Boot. And coreboot. The world needs more

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CELF open project proposal

2009-12-03 Thread Robert Schwebel
On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 10:38:07PM +0900, Kyungmin Park wrote: How about the TFTP over USB? It's required feature for no ethernet devices In barebox (aka u-boot-v2) we have USB DFU support, in a very flexible way. Would that fit your needs? I wish some filesystem to share between u-boot and

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CELF open project proposal

2009-12-04 Thread Robert Schwebel
On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 02:29:12PM +1100, Aras Vaichas wrote: In barebox (aka u-boot-v2) we have USB DFU support, in a very flexible way. Would that fit your needs? That would probably be better than TFTP over ethernet. A USB DFU upgrade would only require the microcontroller to be

Re: [Celinux-dev] CELF Project Proposal- Refactoring Qi, lightweight bootloader

2009-12-21 Thread Robert Schwebel
Andy, On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 10:38:31PM +, Andy Green wrote: About tapping into the wisdom of the U-Boot community, most of their changes were GTAxx-specific. For example I don't know any other Linux device than GTA02 with a Glamo in it, there is a lot of code I ported from Linux for

Re: [Celinux-dev] CELF Project Proposal- Refactoring Qi, lightweight bootloader

2009-12-22 Thread Robert Schwebel
Hi Andy, [is this the right set of lists to discuss these issues? It's not directly CELF related, but I don't know a better place for general project independend bootloader discussions] On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 08:22:27AM +, Andy Green wrote: DFU is a special update mechanism which I believe

Re: [Celinux-dev] CELF Project Proposal- Refactoring Qi, lightweight bootloader

2009-12-23 Thread Robert Schwebel
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 08:38:08AM +, Andy Green wrote: I don't know or care when I get the binary packages from a repo where they're already built. The whole point of a distro solution is someone did all the work for you. You're only thinking about mass rebuild yourself because it's the

Re: [Celinux-dev] CELF Project Proposal- Refactoring Qi, lightweight bootloader

2009-12-23 Thread Robert Schwebel
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 09:29:22AM +, Andy Green wrote: If you don't step into for example toolchain problems or other crazy things... Again this is buildroot thinking. The distro provides both the native and cross toolchains for you. You're going to want to use the same distro as you

[ANNOUNCE] barebox-2009.12.0 has been released

2009-12-27 Thread Robert Schwebel
CONFIG_CMD_I2C. Remove/adjust erroneous references to CONFIG_MODULE. MTD: Correct typo in preprocessor directive. Remove obsolete comment referring to CFG_CMD_JFFS2. Remove PPC support for IDE. Robert Schwebel (2): README: rewrite some u-boot leftovers README: add

Re: Super Fast Boot of Embedded Linux: 300 ms from boot loader to shell

2011-04-14 Thread Robert Schwebel
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 09:43:35AM +0200, Matthieu CASTET wrote: Not to say such case are not interesting : loading a linux kernel with only a serial driver, a ramdisk and a shell as init doesn't reflect reality. In real product what you want if fast user interaction (sound, mounting big

Re: AMP on an SMP system

2013-08-03 Thread Robert Schwebel
Hi, On Fri, Aug 02, 2013 at 04:53:50PM +0200, Marco Stornelli wrote: In fact I need a way to do very guaranteed low latency. regarding the high clock rate (about 1 GHz) modern ARM chips can provide, maybe preempt-rt with the cpu affinity might be a decent way to go. Modern hardware has

Re: AMP on an SMP system

2013-08-05 Thread Robert Schwebel
On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 09:25:18AM +0200, Michael Schnell wrote: You can't. And you can't, even if you try to run bare-metal software on a dedicated core. I can't imagine how for example the cache influences between the cores could be determined. This would render all efforts for hard