Re: ARRL Handbook on CD
What has the subject to do with: linux-hams ?? 73, Erik OZ4KK [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ARRL Handbook on CD
On Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 08:39:50AM +0200, Erik Jakobsen wrote: What has the subject to do with: linux-hams ?? 73, Erik OZ4KK [EMAIL PROTECTED] If I have followed corectly the initial question was could it be used under X on Linux, and Handbook is for hams so I guess it is ok to have it on linux-hams. 73 de Ivo 9A3TY
RE: ARRL Handbook on CD
I just looked at my copy. It uses pdf Acrobat is even on the CD as well. When I get the chance I'll peek at it on this Linux machine, but I will be surprised if its not readable - at least in part. Costs around $40; not as user friendly as the hard copy, and it is more portable, (but only if you normally lug a pc around with you.) The Antenna Handbook is also on CD, and its in pdf as well, but now I have it, I prefer the paper edition for ease of bedtime browsing. (At this location I can only dream about antennas). On 29-Jul-99 Adolf Ahmad MS wrote: How Much and how to order it ...? -Original Message- From:Chuck Hemker [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:Thursday, July 29, 1999 12:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ARRL Handbook on CD I noticed that the ARRL has the Handbook on CD now. However, it says it requires Microsoft Windows. I was wondering if anyone has a copy and has looked at it to see how much it really does? Is most of the data in some cross platform format like PDF, or did they decide to use either a Microsoft format, or a proprietary format? Or maybe even in simple text? Thanks. -- E-Mail: John - G3JAG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 29-Jul-99 Time: 09:13:03 This message was sent by XFMail --
Re: ARRL Handbook on CD
You said: RANT ARRL has released all back issues of QST on CD in the past few years and these files are not PDF. I have the 1995 QST View (as they call it) and it uses some proprietary file format and a custom viewer written specifically for this application. I wrote the publications manager about a year ago asking if X would be supported, or if the file format would be made available for a free software project. Essentially, the answer was no, not at this time. So, until Linux becomes the ham platform of choice and QST View sales drop off for that reason, I don't foresee ARRL supporting X with QST View. At a hamfest last weekend, a company was offering a *decent* dualbander for a really good price that was PC programmable. I asked the gal if there was support for linux, or if the protocol for their radio was available. I came to find out she didn't know about the protocol, and she wasn't aware of any other OS's than Windows. I sighed and moved on.. It's not long until the unclean masses start demanding linux support from their vendors..and im excited to wait. -Dan N7NMD
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On Thu, 29 Jul 1999, Dan wrote: At a hamfest last weekend, a company was offering a *decent* dualbander for a really good price that was PC programmable. I asked the gal if there was support for linux, or if the protocol for their radio was available. I came to find out she didn't know about the protocol, and she wasn't aware of any other OS's than Windows. I sighed and moved on.. It's not long until the unclean masses start demanding linux support from their vendors..and im excited to wait. I have made the same experiences at the HAM Radio fair last month. Several of the exhibitors of good dos/win software were not willing to do a port of their software because linux has no market share yet. But others are willing to do so and I am looking forward to see their products in the future... Regards, Kai -- Kai Altenfelder, SuSE GmbH, Schanzaeckerstr. 10, D-90443 Nuernberg Tel.: +49-911-74053-0, Fax: +49-911-3206727, EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ham: DL3LBA PGP public key available
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"Affan Basalamah (96-018)" wrote: you can check in ARRL web site in http://www.arrl.org -Affan- It seems that although their antenae handbook on cd is in .pdf format, the Amateur Radio Handbook is wintendo only. Does this mean that ARRL does not fully support Linux-Hams? -- Ted Ozolins (VE6TVO) Edmonton, Alberta.
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Nate Bargmann wrote: RANT ARRL has released all back issues of QST on CD in the past few years and these files are not PDF. I have the 1995 QST View (as they call it) and it uses some proprietary file format and a custom viewer written specifically for this application. I wrote the publications manager about a year ago asking if X would be supported, or if the file format would be made available for a free software project. Essentially, the answer was no, not at this time. So, until Linux becomes the ham platform of choice and QST View sales drop off for that reason, I don't foresee ARRL supporting X with QST View. the UI be deficient in some area for a small group of customers, will these companies being willing to make those changes to the software? Will they care? I have been a licensed amateur for only about 10-11 years and my biggest grumble regarding the ARRL is that they are oftentimes not very supportive of amateur related interested which fall outside the radius of what is deemed the paramount interests and/or absorbtions of what they view as the majority of the amateur community. Items which deviate this ARRL self defined scope seem to be treated as collateral and unimportant. How does this pertain to the situation you describe? In that old rhetorical sense of argument that can be best defined in phrase, "everybody uses MS Windows so why cater to the minority that does not??". Much the same mannerism of "everybody does this or that nowadays" that the ARRL has undertaken in several other amateur related issues that I had been involved in over the years. However, of late I am quite detached as although licensed I have not been practicing amateur radio actively in the last several years. It behooves me to make clear that I am not saying this to belittle the ARRL or any of their actions which may have notably benefited the amateur community over the many years of its operations. John [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Local mailserver landreau.ruffe.edu , remote ns.computer.net Linx: http://www.computer.net/ http://einval.vol.8m.com/ Just a drop in the basket helps keep your city clean!
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ghostview, xpdf, acrobat reader and several other X apps do a fine job with .pdf's. Interesting note, .pdf is merely .ps with LZW compression. jk
RE: ARRL Handbook on CD
Actually, a PDF is alittle more involved that just a ps file. It's possible to include a fulltext segment that can automatically be index via some web search engines, and have it all go along for the ride. As for the compression, it's kinda lousy atleast on standard 150 dpi scans of BW text. A standard G4 tiff is 25% smaller than the pdf - I guess it just depends on what you need. 73 .mark -- From: James S. Kaplan KG7FU[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 29, 1999 8:45 AM To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ARRL Handbook on CD ghostview, xpdf, acrobat reader and several other X apps do a fine job with .pdf's. Interesting note, .pdf is merely .ps with LZW compression. jk
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Although an ARRL member continuosly since January of 1983, the League is not above criticism when I believe they are taking the wrong path. An interesting page I read last night is at: http://www.wm7d.net/az_proj/az_html/arrl_restructuring.html by NA3T. I know this is getting off target, but although we have seen support on this list from various HQ staff (keep up the good work guys!), from the view presented by the League to the mainstream membership, ARRL is a Wintendo (I like that) outfit. I admit, though, Linux has gotten at least two mentions in the Digital Dimension column some months back. Perhaps it behooves more experimenters to embrace Linux and write articles about it and using it for project development for QST. Perhaps some of the blame can be laid at our doorstep for not providing them with publishable articles. Unfortunately, I don't see the market emphasis of the League changing until they are losing sales because of the lack of Linux and X support. My crystal ball is cloudy, but until most of the computer software use in ham radio is ported to Linux/X, the League will continue to market to Wintendo only. 73, de Nate -- Packet | N0NB @ WF0A.#SCKS.KS.USA.NOAM | "None can love freedom Internet | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | heartily, but good Location | Valley Center, Kansas USA EM17hs| men; the rest love not Visit my Linux + Ham Radio pages| freedom, but license." http://homepage.netspaceonline.com/~ka0rny/ | -- John Milton
Re: ARRL Handbook on CD
On Thu, Jul 29, 1999 at 09:26:58AM +0100, John - G3JAG wrote: I just looked at my copy. It uses pdf Acrobat is even on the CD as well. When I get the chance I'll peek at it on this Linux machine, but I will be surprised if its not readable - at least in part. Costs around $40; not as user friendly as the hard copy, and it is more portable, (but only if you normally lug a pc around with you.) The Antenna Handbook is also on CD, and its in pdf as well, but now I have it, I prefer the paper edition for ease of bedtime browsing. (At this location I can only dream about antennas). IIRC, the CD-ROM copy of the ARRL handbook is more expensive than the paper copy. That just doesn't make sense given the relative costs of production (high for a large, thick book; low ($1 US?) for CD-ROM). Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt Mobile: +61 412 011 176 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rising Software Australia Pty. Ltd.http://www.risingsoftware.com/ Phone: +61 3 9894 4788Fax: +61 3 9894 3362USA: 1 888 667 7839
Re: ARRL Handbook on CD
On Thu, Jul 29, 1999 at 08:45:51AM -0700, James S. Kaplan KG7FU wrote: ghostview, xpdf, acrobat reader and several other X apps do a fine job with .pdf's. Interesting note, .pdf is merely .ps with LZW compression. pdf has hyperlinks and embedded video support too. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt Mobile: +61 412 011 176 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rising Software Australia Pty. Ltd.http://www.risingsoftware.com/ Phone: +61 3 9894 4788Fax: +61 3 9894 3362USA: 1 888 667 7839
RE: ARRL Handbook on CD
How Much and how to order it ...? -Original Message- From: Chuck Hemker [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 29, 1999 12:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ARRL Handbook on CD I noticed that the ARRL has the Handbook on CD now. However, it says it requires Microsoft Windows. I was wondering if anyone has a copy and has looked at it to see how much it really does? Is most of the data in some cross platform format like PDF, or did they decide to use either a Microsoft format, or a proprietary format? Or maybe even in simple text? Thanks.
RE: ARRL Handbook on CD
you can check in ARRL web site in http://www.arrl.org -Affan- On Thu, 29 Jul 1999, Adolf Ahmad MS wrote: How Much and how to order it ...? -Original Message- From: Chuck Hemker [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 29, 1999 12:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:ARRL Handbook on CD I noticed that the ARRL has the Handbook on CD now. However, it says it requires Microsoft Windows. I was wondering if anyone has a copy and has looked at it to see how much it really does? Is most of the data in some cross platform format like PDF, or did they decide to use either a Microsoft format, or a proprietary format? Or maybe even in simple text? Thanks.
RE: ARRL Handbook on CD
They have it on there web page for $49.95. http://www.arrl.org/catalog/f-handy_references.phtml (Second item, after the paper copy) However, they just sent me an email that they are having a sale on their members only site and that is one of the discounted items. On 29-Jul-99 Adolf Ahmad MS wrote: How Much and how to order it ...? -Original Message- From:Chuck Hemker [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:Thursday, July 29, 1999 12:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ARRL Handbook on CD I noticed that the ARRL has the Handbook on CD now. However, it says it requires Microsoft Windows. I was wondering if anyone has a copy and has looked at it to see how much it really does? Is most of the data in some cross platform format like PDF, or did they decide to use either a Microsoft format, or a proprietary format? Or maybe even in simple text? Thanks.
