Re: [Which list?] Unicode, bidi, terminals and tables

2003-03-04 Thread Beni Cherniavsky
On 2003-03-03, Moshe Kaminsky wrote: Hi, Won't it be nice if at least I can make the output of any program to be piped through bidiv (without explicitly mentioning it)? I tried mkfifo jojo (while true; do; bidiv jojo; done) exec jojo This works for basic output, but has (at least) the

Re: [Which list?] Unicode, bidi, terminals and tables

2003-03-04 Thread Beni Cherniavsky
On 2003-03-03, Nadav Har'El wrote: On Mon, Mar 03, 2003, Beni Cherniavsky wrote about Re: [Which list?] Unicode, bidi, terminals and tables: - The raw/cooked modes are not very elegant; cooked mode actually belongs in user-space. 9term had an elegant idea of user-trigered Well

[Which list?] Unicode, bidi, terminals and tables

2003-03-03 Thread Beni Cherniavsky
[ Long mail ] [I'm not sure what's the most appropriate list to discuss this; internet search shows many lists where these issues are discussed] I've been thinking long on the issues of proper bidi in terminals. I've seen a formulation on some list [mlterm's?] by somebody that the terminal's

Re: [Which list?] Unicode, bidi, terminals and tables

2003-03-03 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Mon, Mar 03, 2003, Beni Cherniavsky wrote about [Which list?] Unicode, bidi, terminals and tables: I'm looking for the Right Model of terminals that would support bidi well, with minimal hassles to the application. In particular, it's imperative that `cat foo.txt' does the right thing. I

Re: [Which list?] Unicode, bidi, terminals and tables

2003-03-03 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Mon, Mar 03, 2003, Nadav Har'El wrote about Re: [Which list?] Unicode, bidi, terminals and tables: Note that what you described does not need to be a terminal-emulator at all! It can, and perhaps even should, be simply a pseudo-terminal layer which processes the text and passes

Re: [Which list?] Unicode, bidi, terminals and tables

2003-03-03 Thread Beni Cherniavsky
On 2003-03-03, Nadav Har'El wrote: On Mon, Mar 03, 2003, Nadav Har'El wrote about Re: [Which list?] Unicode, bidi, terminals and tables: Note that what you described does not need to be a terminal-emulator at all! It can, and perhaps even should, be simply a pseudo-terminal layer which

Re: [Which list?] Unicode, bidi, terminals and tables

2003-03-03 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Mon, Mar 03, 2003, Beni Cherniavsky wrote about Re: [Which list?] Unicode, bidi, terminals and tables: I think what I had in mind was Acon, or Akka (the latter is a rewrite and supposedly improvement of the former). Check out arabeyes.org for more information. Great, didn't know

Re: [Which list?] Unicode, bidi, terminals and tables

2003-03-03 Thread Beni Cherniavsky
On 2003-03-03, Nadav Har'El wrote: On Mon, Mar 03, 2003, Beni Cherniavsky wrote about Re: [Which list?] Unicode, bidi, terminals and tables: I think what I had in mind was Acon, or Akka (the latter is a rewrite and supposedly improvement of the former). Check out arabeyes.org for more

Re: [Which list?] Unicode, bidi, terminals and tables

2003-03-03 Thread Beni Cherniavsky
On 2003-03-03, Nadav Har'El wrote: On Mon, Mar 03, 2003, Beni Cherniavsky wrote about [Which list?] Unicode, bidi, terminals and tables: I'm looking for the Right Model of terminals that would support bidi well, with minimal hassles to the application. In particular, it's imperative

Re: [Which list?] Unicode, bidi, terminals and tables

2003-03-03 Thread Moshe Kaminsky
for what Beni wants. Thanks, Moshe PS. What is the difference between using bidiv and fribidi? Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03/03/03 21:29]: On Mon, Mar 03, 2003, Beni Cherniavsky wrote about [Which list?] Unicode, bidi, terminals and tables: I'm looking for the Right Model

Re: [Which list?] Unicode, bidi, terminals and tables

2003-03-03 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Mon, Mar 03, 2003, Beni Cherniavsky wrote about Re: [Which list?] Unicode, bidi, terminals and tables: - The raw/cooked modes are not very elegant; cooked mode actually belongs in user-space. 9term had an elegant idea of user-trigered Well said, though the invention of ptys in modern