Re: ot: isps

2009-04-23 Thread Rafi Gordon
Oleg, first thanks for your answer. AFAIK, this DPI can block voip application like Skype. That's an on-going war, similar to the war between P2P applications and DPI. It's not limited to cellular companies, of course. There is still a little difference here, I believe, with cellular

Re: ot: isps

2009-04-23 Thread Dotan Cohen
i want a new Internet connection for my home. Stay away from Netvision. While their network is the best in Israel when it works, their customer support is terrible, and after experiencing three days of downtime in January I moved to Bezeq Beinleumi. Netvision does not see three days of downtime

Re: ot: isps

2009-04-23 Thread Geoffrey Mendelson
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 1:34 PM, nir grinberg n...@grinberg.org wrote:  The current issue with the providers are the fact that their data network coverage is not similar to their GSM coverage.  in many locations you will be able to talk via GSM, but receive a very poor data connection. That's

Re: ot: isps

2009-04-23 Thread Dan Shimshoni
Hi, Skype is a different issue since it communicate via port 80, though need a much more advance management tools to be filtered (what's called Traffic shaping). Are you sure about it ? What do you mean by that ?? Does Skype send the **Audio** in ***TCP*** port 80 ?! Can TCP do the job for VOIP

Re: ot: isps

2009-04-23 Thread Amos Shapira
2009/4/23 Geoffrey Mendelson geoffreymendel...@gmail.com: That's because there are three different networks involved here. Orange runs 3 networks. a 900mHz GSM (voice and data up to 14.4kbps if they allow it), 1800Mhz (voice, 14.4k data and higher speed data (GPRS?) ) and a 2.1gHz 3G network.

Re: ot: isps

2009-04-21 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi Erez (and all)! On Tuesday 21 April 2009 11:10:48 Erez D wrote: hi i want a new Internet connection for my home. first i thought of trying the cellular companies. any experience with them ? are they good ? i am still connected to bbl+hot. i experience problems in creating a

Re: ot: isps

2009-04-21 Thread Dotan Shavit
Try: http://speed.hot.net.il/script/DownloadSpeed.asp And check your effective bandwidth. Also check packet loss statistics with ping and/or hping. With this information you will be able to get decent support from bbl. # On Tuesday 21 April 2009, Erez D wrote: hi i want a new Internet

Re: ot: isps

2009-04-21 Thread Erez D
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Shlomi Fish shlo...@iglu.org.il wrote: Hi Erez (and all)! On Tuesday 21 April 2009 11:10:48 Erez D wrote: hi i want a new Internet connection for my home. first i thought of trying the cellular companies. any experience with them ? are they good ?

Re: ot: isps

2009-04-21 Thread Erez D
i have no problems with download speed my ping is acting strange. it works for the first N icmps (N is a number between 30 and 150, changes every time), then it stops working. i spoke with bbl - they can find no problems although i (bbl+hot) and my mom (bbl+adsl) have the same problem On Tue,

Re: ot: isps

2009-04-21 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Tuesday 21 April 2009 12:25:54 Erez D wrote: On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Shlomi Fish shlo...@iglu.org.il wrote: Hi Erez (and all)! On Tuesday 21 April 2009 11:10:48 Erez D wrote: hi i want a new Internet connection for my home. first i thought of trying the cellular

Re: ot: isps

2009-04-21 Thread Erez D
i found the following link: http://www.internet-2.org.il/%D7%93%D7%99%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%92_%D7%A1%D7%A4%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%95%D7%AA_%D7%90%D7%99%D7%A0%D7%98%D7%A8%D7%A0%D7%98/ don't know how to regard the results though ... On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Geoffrey Mendelson

Re: ot: isps

2009-04-21 Thread Erez D
btw, disabling ipv6 didn't help either On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Shlomi Fish shlo...@iglu.org.il wrote: On Tuesday 21 April 2009 12:25:54 Erez D wrote: On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Shlomi Fish shlo...@iglu.org.il wrote: Hi Erez (and all)! On Tuesday 21 April 2009

Re: ot: isps

2009-04-21 Thread Boaz Rymland
I'm using Nezeq-Intl + Hot with no such issues. But: * I'm connecting via a router that manages the connection for me (I guess I would have still felt it - and I'm not). * maybe talk to them and try to change the connection type - pptp/ppoe/direct/etc. (I was using pptp until a few days and

Re: ot: isps

2009-04-21 Thread Rafi Gordon
Hi, first i thought of trying the cellular companies. any experience with them ? are they I have a question regarding the cellular companies internet service: I heard that some cellular companies installed a blocking mechansim for their intenet clients which is called DPI. see:

Re: ot: isps

2009-04-21 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Rafi Gordon rafigor...@gmail.com writes: I heard that some cellular companies installed a blocking mechansim for their intenet clients which is called DPI. see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dpi And choose Deep Packet Inspection from the options... ;-) AFAIK, this DPI can block voip

Re: ot: isps

2009-04-21 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On Apr 21, 2009, at 10:23 PM, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: If one uses Skype over GPRS then the cell phone company can do DPI, I suppose. They do get paid for GPRS usage, but a lot of it may be flat rate. In Israel free Wi-Fi is common enough so using GPRS does not make much sense in the first

Re: ot: isps

2009-04-21 Thread Dotan Shavit
Time to use traceroute to find the dropping node. I'd go for mtr hostname Note that some network components are dropping pings directed to them, but the nodes located after these will still show 0% packet loss. # On Tuesday 21 April 2009, Erez D wrote: i have no problems with download speed

Re: [OT] ISPs and fixed IP

2004-05-04 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Ira, On Tuesday 04 May 2004 08:10, Ira Abramov wrote: indeed you should have. when my current prepaid year is up I intend to make it VERY clear to them that I do not intend to pay more for the service that was so far built-in. afterall my machine is online 24/7, what difference does it make

Re: [OT] ISPs and fixed IP

2004-05-04 Thread Yonah Russ
Ira Abramov wrote: Quoting Yonah Russ, from the post of Mon, 03 May: they wanted me to pay 200- I complained and they lowered it to 150. I should have complained more. indeed you should have. when my current prepaid year is up I intend to make it VERY clear to them that I do not intend to

Re: [OT] ISPs and fixed IP

2004-05-04 Thread Yonah Russ
Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: Ira, On Tuesday 04 May 2004 08:10, Ira Abramov wrote: indeed you should have. when my current prepaid year is up I intend to make it VERY clear to them that I do not intend to pay more for the service that was so far built-in. afterall my machine is online 24/7, what

Re: [OT] ISPs and fixed IP

2004-05-04 Thread Boaz Rymland
I've followed this thread since it matters me for the same reason it does to you. Why did they gave it for no charge earlier ? maybe they still had free static's to give but all other ISPs did charge. In comparison to them they could have charge without any doubts. I called them to learn of

Re: [OT] ISPs and fixed IP

2004-05-04 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Gilad Ben-Yossef, from the post of Tue, 04 May: The reason they charge more for a fixed IP is the same reason dogs leak their genitals: because they can. Or to put it in economic terms: because people are willing to pay extra for it. It has nothing to do with the their cost. I know

Re: [OT] ISPs and fixed IP

2004-05-04 Thread Meir Kriheli
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 04 May 2004 05:10, Ira Abramov wrote: Quoting Yonah Russ, from the post of Mon, 03 May: they wanted me to pay 200- I complained and they lowered it to 150. I should have complained more. indeed you should have. when my current

Re: [OT] ISPs and kid scanning your computer

2001-05-24 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Thu, May 24, 2001, Boaz Rymland wrote about [OT] ISPs and kid scanning your computer: ... The thing is I get many many scans, and I can see only the non-stealth ones. I'm being scanned many times per connection to the net, which is nowadays almost daily. The unauthorized connection

RE: [OT] ISPs and kid scanning your computer

2001-05-24 Thread Haim Gelfenbeyn
I truly hope Barak will have enough common sense to leave their setup as-is. Because the only solution to the problem you describe here is a firewall. E.g. Barak will simply filter all incoming connections on specific ports. *I* want to retain my freedom to decide what ports are open and what

RE: [OT] ISPs and kid scanning your computer

2001-05-24 Thread Boaz Rymland
Hey all, Yep, I get that many assortment of connection attempts to the various ports described here. Indeed, portmapper is really the favorite on my machine lately :-) . What a typo I had below - I meant to say that connecting Barak in extremely UNuseful !... :-) I talked to them on the phone,

RE: [OT] ISPs and kid scanning your computer

2001-05-24 Thread Jeremy
The thing is I get many many scans, and I can see only the non-stealth ones. --- snip --- I was wandering if people subscribed to other ISPs also get many scans as I, or this is something Barak excels at (having too many kids-with-much-spare-time-on-their-hands...) . I was connected with