Re: how to disable PolicyKit?

2009-11-01 Thread Diego Iastrubni
On Saturday 31 October 2009 23:42:49 Oron Peled wrote: You can try wicd, I tested it under Debian and it was pretty good. I don't know how it will break Fedroa by killing NetworkManager and installing wicd What does it have to do with the subject? We discussed PolicyKit, integration

Re: how to disable PolicyKit?

2009-11-01 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 11:42:49PM +0200, Oron Peled wrote: On Saturday, 31 בOctober 2009 16:40:47 Diego Iastrubni wrote: On Friday 30 October 2009 01:40:07 Oron Peled wrote: I rather hate NetworkManager, too ;-). However, from the system point of view, I'd naively expect hal, udev,

Re: how to disable PolicyKit?

2009-10-31 Thread Diego Iastrubni
On Friday 30 October 2009 01:40:07 Oron Peled wrote: I rather hate NetworkManager, too ;-). However, from the system point of view, I'd naively expect hal, udev, dbus, network, etc. to work without a policy kit developed by GUI people (I understand it comes from Gnome). ... However, you

Re: how to disable PolicyKit?

2009-10-31 Thread Oron Peled
On Saturday, 31 בOctober 2009 16:40:47 Diego Iastrubni wrote: On Friday 30 October 2009 01:40:07 Oron Peled wrote: I rather hate NetworkManager, too ;-). However, from the system point of view, I'd naively expect hal, udev, dbus, network, etc. to work without a policy kit developed by

Re: how to disable PolicyKit?

2009-10-29 Thread Oron Peled
I reordered the topics... On Thursday, 29 בOctober 2009 00:10:54 Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Does anyone know how I can disable the bloody thing globally so that it shuts up once and for all? I am wary of uninstalling it bluntly after I tried to trace the RPM dependencies and got lost in the forest

Re: how to disable PolicyKit?

2009-10-29 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Hi Oron, Thanks for your response. Your explanations are, as always, enlightening, if not entirely convincing in this particular case. There is a specific question in the end - feel free to skip right to it. On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Oron Peled o...@actcom.co.il wrote: 1. Obviously. The

Re: how to disable PolicyKit?

2009-10-29 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On Oct 29, 2009, at 10:56 AM, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: There must be something fundamentally wrong if GUI becomes responsible for security. This is a carryover from Windows. When anti-spyware became popular, Microsoft purchased Giant Anti Sypware, changed the name to Windows Defender and

Re: how to disable PolicyKit?

2009-10-29 Thread Oron Peled
As usual, I'll reorder topics to confuse everybody ;-) On Thursday, 29 בOctober 2009 10:56:29 Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Hmm... This is the first time I've heard about it. I noticed NetworkManager a few months ago only. How could I live without them all these years?!? ;-) Using an old

how to disable PolicyKit?

2009-10-28 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Hi, I suspect that some package update is to blame, but my home Fedora 10 (too busy - or lazy - to upgrade to 11) has recently acquired something called PolicyKit, probably as a dependency of something else. It seems to be a complicated and cumbersome authentication/security framework that so