On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 09:33, Steve Brorens wrote:
Vik, you said:
...Forget up2date and use apt-get instead. Get apt-get from
http://freshrpms.net and...
Well, maybe. I did some reading on this whole rpm/apt thing a while
back, but while it may be fine for many people, for me, and
On Mon, 11 Nov 2002, Theuns Verwoerd wrote:
...
Anyone know of a command-line utility to split text columns into
separate files? I know cut will do it it you specify the column
positions, but I'm looking for something that attempts to auto-discover
column widths.
To print the third
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 06:00:35PM +1300, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
On Fri, 15 Nov 2002 14:06, Huan Yee Chew wrote:
While we're at the topic. Can anyone shed some light as to POP vs. IMAP?
With pop you download the current contents of you mailbox to your PC thus
emptying it. With IMAP
I don't mind defending Perl.
Seeing as though I have now had a bit of experience with it and it is
such a powerful and useful language.
I've also done a fair bit in TCL/Tk and PHP.
Python/Ruby/Awk/Guile I don't know much about
What may be a good talk is just a quick rundown/demo on
my 2 roubles:
scripting is an important part of life with linux. Just tbeing able to
write a very brief script to download a selection of files, analyse a
log report, whatever.
I'm not so sure c is essential to a newbie/enduser. Sure the whole
system is written in c, but if you just wish to
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 23:11, Zane Gilmore wrote:
I or whoever could demonstrate a hello world program in C.
Showing the compilation steps etc. This could add a good insite into the
kernel and Gentoo compilation stuff.
Folks might like to know that:-
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 06:00:35PM +1300, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
Actually, you can choose between flushing your mailbox, or keeping the
retrieved messages on the server with POP, too. The big difference is
that with POP you have to retrieve a complete message to obtain any
header info like
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
...
Is the lock file appearing and disappearing correctly, and are both
mgetty and sendfax both configured to use the same file?
Thank you, this indeed is a very good question. Let's take a look.
When I send a fax I have this one:
-rw-r--r--1
Hi all,
Just thought some of you other fax / modem users might not yet know a
nice free service offered by Telecom for testing fax transmission
quality. It is called FaxRight and works as follows: you send a fax to
0800-108208. After a short time you will receive a fax with a detailed
report
At the next meeting can I please have some help with some basic things to do with
operating linux.
In particular extracting and installing programs from .tar files and using terminal to
run the install scripts.
Also at the last meeting I think I was speaking to Nick and he said he could get me
Hi
I'm on the board of a primary school which has recently installed their
network cabling etc. but have just a peer to peer network. Soon they
will have about 12 machines in total. At this stage I don't think that
they would go for a total Linux solution for various reasons but I would
like to
Hi,
Thought I'd throw my thoughts in the pot...
I have experienced similar problem in the past with another ISP.
That problem turned out to be something wrong on isp's network - but only
got action on it by supplying evidence... If I ran continuous pings to
destination server it became apparent
I am a parent support person at Sumner Primary School which has about 30
PCs running WIN98 and we installed a Linux server. MUSAC also runs
from the server.
Can't say we have too many issues with this arrangement. Send me an
e-mail off the list and I'll give you my phone number if you wish to
CLUG members,
I presume we are going to have a trouble shooting meeting at the next
meeting?? Only about three weeks away now: Thursday 5th December.
Leaving the meeting Wednesday 29th January 2003 for a talk of some kind.
NickE
ref: http://canterbury.lug.net.nz/
P.S Kevin I
How much do these UTP splitters cost?
$13.00 each from Dick Smith. NOTE: you need 2 of them.
This link will probably wrap:
http://www.dse.co.nz/cgi-in/dse.storefront/3ddd4c990aa842e0273fc0a87f990
749/Product/View/XH4247
Later
David Kirk
On Fri, 2002-11-22 at 10:16, David Kirk wrote:
This link will probably wrap:
http://www.dse.co.nz/cgi-in/dse.storefront/3ddd4c990aa842e0273fc0a87f990
749/Product/View/XH4247
I find
http://makeshorterlink.com/
invaluable in these sorts of situations. Paste your long URL in and get
a
Peter van Hout wrote:
I am a parent support person at Sumner Primary School which has about 30
PCs running WIN98 and we installed a Linux server. MUSAC also runs
from the server.
MUSAC? Is that the Massey Unversity School Admistration thing?
I remember using it at High School (I was writing
That link was dead when I tried it...
Try:
http://makeashorterlink.com/index.php
instead.
Cheers
Jason
Michael JasonSmith wrote:
On Fri, 2002-11-22 at 10:16, David Kirk wrote:
This link will probably wrap:
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Wayne Rooney wrote:
...
You can get some of the benefits of IMAP from POP3 by using telnet. And
it's a damm site faster than using the ISP's web based mail too.
Hi Wayne,
Very good comment; using telnet on the POP port is good for
low-bandwidth connections, and it also is
Cool idea - but the user doesn't know what site the link is to and can't
judge the usefulness of the link.
http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2AD32682
http://makeashorterlink.com/?P57D22682
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V2BD22682
Which of these is useful, which is strange, and which is just plain
Thats a hell-good price!
Notice its like a double-adapter, two sockets and one plug (fine if you
have sockets on the end of the backbone) but if you have plugs, then
you'll need a pair of barrel adapters.
On Fri, 2002-11-22 at 10:49, Carl Cerecke wrote:
MUSAC? Is that the Massey Unversity School Admistration thing?
Yes
hopefully they will have changed the encoding scheme by now.
(This was 1990/1991 BTW).
Nope - one of their packages you type in a string and another string, as
documented in
John Carter wrote:
Time for a wee bout of 'Distro war...
...
Back in the bad old days of Linux 0.99 when Men were Real Men, and little
Plastic Barbies were Really Plastic we used to suck down the source
of each package from the authors site as we needed it, compiled it, and
ran.
If
Michael,
I find
http://makeshorterlink.com/
invaluable in these sorts of situations. Paste your long URL
in and get a shorter one out! For example
How's this then
http://makeashorterlink.com/?D25E21682
Later
David Kirk
On Fri, 2002-11-22 at 10:54, C Falconer wrote:
Cool idea - but the user doesn't know what site the
link is to and can't judge the usefulness of the link.
Agreed. I generally find that my messages have text in addition to the
URL :-P Normally I would say something like the following.
Here are
don't forget you need to make sure your cat 5 cabling is up to the job,
ie that all 8 wires have actually been joined up. I have seen lazy
wiring where only the pairs actually needed to make an ethernet
connection have been used.
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 10:55:04 +1300
C Falconer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 2002-11-22 at 11:21, Michael JasonSmith wrote:
On a tangent, you never know which URL is broken. That is one of the
trade-offs made with the Web: distributed storage, but only
uni-directional links and broken links can exist. The alternative is to
have a central server which
Another point worth considering - my data comms man here at MasterTrade /
Corys recommends the splitter with the short bit of cable like TELTRAC use
rather than the type DSE are selling - they are more robust - the others are
easily smashed with an accidental kick or whatever.
BTW - if you can
Hi Wayne,
Very good comment; using telnet on the POP port is good for
low-bandwidth connections, and it also is a good way of playing with
POP and getting acquainted with the matter. The interactivity,
however, comes from telnet, and not from POP in this case, if I
understand it
Helmut Walle wrote:
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 06:00:35PM +1300, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
Actually, you can choose between flushing your mailbox, or keeping the
retrieved messages on the server with POP, too. The big difference is
that with POP you have to retrieve a complete message to obtain
you can telnet to an imap server too, although the commands are nowhere
near as straight forward as pop.
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 12:02:17 +1300
Adrian Stacey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Helmut Walle wrote:
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 06:00:35PM +1300, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
Actually, you can
FYI, I am given to understand that gentoo can be built on a fast machine
for transfer to a slow machine. The fast machine does not have to have
gentoo installed.
so if anyone has an older machine they want to play with gentoo on, and
a newer machine to build it on, we could give it a try.
Of
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, C Falconer wrote:
Cool idea - but the user doesn't know what site the link is to and can't
judge the usefulness of the link.
http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2AD32682
http://makeashorterlink.com/?P57D22682
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V2BD22682
Which of these is useful,
you'd think going straight to a stage2 or 3 install would be the go
there..
how good are these procompiled stages Nick??
Regards
Paul Swafford
(Manager, E-caf@The Arts Centre)
(Level 2/28 Worcester Boulevard, Christchurch, NZ)
(ph/fax +64 3 3656480 www.e-caf.com)
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Nick
Has anyone Connected to Windows Terminal server from Linux?
I Beleave there is a client for Linux and I woundered whether anyone has used it
Regards,
Kevin
Do I have to setup a Superuser for the purposes of installing Programs etc.? I am
using Mandrake 8
Regards,
Kevin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 2002-11-22 at 13:24, Kevin Linux account wrote:
Has anyone Connected to Windows Terminal server from Linux?
Yes cosc have one here at uni.
I Beleave there is a client for Linux and I woundered whether anyone has used it
rdesktop
Works ok, on a heavily loaded terminal server the
Nah - I think the URL is being added to a database, and the ?x was a
lookup key.
Those DSE links contain 40+ alphanumeric combinations - a bit random for
token-replacement compression.
On Fri, 2002-11-22 at 12:15, Helmut Walle wrote:
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, C Falconer wrote:
Cool idea -
If Mr Rooney or someone else is willing, I would love to
hear a talk (and demo?) of using telnet to the pop port
and other ports to do fancy trickery.
If someone is willing to point me to a good tutorial I'll
learn it myself and give the talk mid 2003, if I get around
to learning it.
I have
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 13:28, you wrote:
Do I have to setup a Superuser for the purposes of installing Programs
etc.? I am using Mandrake 8
yes.
--
Sincerely etc.,
Christopher Sawtell
With HP Jetdirect printers and Lexmark Markport printers this is cool
command-with-output | telnet laserprinterip 9100
This is analogous to the old
doscommand prn
doscommand lpt1
But of course the printer handles postscript and PCL output.
I wonder what happens if I do
Yes it is.
Do the police know what you do in your spare time...
-Original Message-
From: Carl Cerecke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, 22 November 2002 10:50 a.m.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Samba for Primary School
Peter van Hout wrote:
I am a parent support person at
read the pop rfc
then just telnet to port 110 orf the pop server
user yuri
pass password
stat
top
list
dele
give it a try
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 13:56:18 +1300
Yuri de Groot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If Mr Rooney or someone else is willing, I would love to
hear a talk (and demo?) of using
How do I go about setting up user as being a superuser?
Kevin
Original Message ---
the system has a super user. his/her name is root, and you set up the
password on installation.
and yes, you have to be root to install programs.
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 13:28:48 +1300
Kevin Linux
nc laserprinter 9100 myfile.ps
Is by far the simplist and most effective way of getting data to a HP
printer.
I love it. (Some distro's have hose or tcppipe(?) instead)
John Carter Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639
Tait ElectronicsFax : (64)(3)
root IS the superuser
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 14:18:16 +1300
Kevin Linux account [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How do I go about setting up user as being a superuser?
Kevin
Original Message ---
the system has a super user. his/her name is root, and you set up the
password on
Use
su
then type in your root password.
You would have set the root password when installing
your distro. But beware you can really damage your
system while in root.
Mahesh
How do I go about setting up user as being a
superuser?
Kevin
Original Message ---
the
Peter van Hout wrote:
Yes it is.
Do the police know what you do in your spare time...
There is no DMCA equivalent in NZ is there? There
certainly wasn't when I was 17 in 1991.
If I buy the same type of lock as you have on your house and
study it enough so that I can build a skeleton key, have
I don't think we should teach users how to program , that would take to long,
maybe have a special learn-Python-or-Perl-or-Bash for an afternoon sometime
but learning a language is time consuming and I would think that people learn
at different speeds and there are heaps of tutorials on the
Hi,
I just discovered a useful little app called pdftotext. It does what the name
surjests, converts pdf to text and works very well.
$ pdftotext scriptintro.pdf
This then creates a file scriptintro.txt
$ vim scriptintro.txt
Very helpful and I would think it is a major advantage on slower
On Fri, 2002-11-22 at 13:31, Mark Carey wrote:
Has anyone Connected to Windows Terminal server from Linux?
Yes cosc have one here at uni.
rdesktop
Works ok, on a heavily loaded terminal server the graphics
updates are a bit average though.
That goes for most remote windowing protocols.
There nothing wrong with working out a formula. Thats what they teach at
school , isnt it? Although - the creators of GIF and MPEG would disagree.
On Friday 22 November 2002 02:41 pm, Carl Cerecke wrote:
Peter van Hout wrote:
Yes it is.
Do the police know what you do in your spare time...
On Fri, 2002-11-22 at 13:55, Peter van Hout wrote:
Yes it is.
The last time I checked the law stated that it is legal to break into a
system, it is just illegal to do anything. Doing something once you
have broken in will have you up for theft of vandalism.
However last time I checked they were
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Helmut Walle wrote:
...
Actually, you can choose between flushing your mailbox, or keeping the
retrieved messages on the server with POP, too. The big difference is
that with POP you have to retrieve a complete message to obtain any
header info like sender or subject,
On Fri, 2002-11-22 at 15:29, Carl Cerecke wrote:
That goes for most remote windowing protocols. When Cosc ran
X-Terminals, rather than thick clients, things could get very slow.
Thoes were the days #Memories, like the corners of my mind...#
That's because they put a whole honking lab
On Fri, 2002-11-22 at 15:37, Michael JasonSmith wrote:
That's because they put a whole honking lab of Xterms on a single 10Mbit
co-ax. Pete G, you were there. It was about 20-30 machines on a cable
wasn't it? I don't actually remember it being that slow, unless 30
people were logging in
just got a pentium 120 and i want some form of linux on it. thought og
gentoo but not too sure about the stages.
- Original Message -
From: Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CLUG [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 12:55 PM
Subject: gentoo on slower machines
FYI, I am given
Hi all
I've got a fairly newbie-ish question. I've been playing around abit with
SSH on my linux box, I can connect quite happily from my Mac OS-X machine.
My question is, what exactly can I do with SSH besides get a secure telnet
and run commands? From some of the stuff I've read it points to
Hi,
Does any one out there have any sites they recommend when it comes to
learning a bit of perl.
I am chopping lines out of text files.
Mark
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I am chopping lines out of text files.
Mark
I had to do this a couple of weeks back. Administrator needed certain
lines cut out of PABX logs. I wrote a Python script that did the job, I
personally find Python does a much better job at text processing.
Having said
SSH can be used as a secure tunnel for varios protocals, such as PPP which is
then used as a VPN. POP3 can be used through SSH and many others. I think X
can as well.
On Friday 22 November 2002 04:13 pm, Hamish McBrearty wrote:
Hi all
I've got a fairly newbie-ish question. I've been playing
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 04:22:13PM +1300, Hamish McBrearty wrote:
I personally find Python does a much better job at text processing.
I find that *very* hard to believe.
I used to think perl was evil, until I learnt it.
Mike.
--
Michael Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Linux is like wigwam - no
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 04:13:58PM +1300, Hamish McBrearty wrote:
I've got a fairly newbie-ish question. I've been playing around abit with
SSH on my linux box, I can connect quite happily from my Mac OS-X machine.
My question is, what exactly can I do with SSH besides get a secure telnet
and
Python is very straight forward, regular expression are also very straight
forward and uses OOP. But I dont want to get into a debate about it.
On Friday 22 November 2002 04:27 pm, Michael Beattie wrote:
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 04:22:13PM +1300, Hamish McBrearty wrote:
I personally find
On Fri, 2002-11-22 at 17:02, Michael Beattie wrote:
FWIW, the python regex engine is slow.
Python is slow, much slower than Java (excluding Java's start-up time).
Saving graces:
o If something takes over 30 seconds then you can take
10 minutes and it will not affect the user because
Ok,
So it isn't prose, actually you may want to hang me, I wanted to remove
all lines in the file containing 1. just whitespace and 2. starting with
a word, allowing for preceding whitespace.
snip
while () {
if (/\S/) {
if (/^\s*[a-zA-Z]/) {
} else {
print;
I've ended up with seven PCI network cards that I don't need.
They have two ST fibre connectors (TX and RX) and a UTP port. The UTP
port runs at 10 Mbit only.
The chipset is PCNet, and will be supported by most OSs.
The cards are Allied Telesyn model AT-2450. Two are opened, the other
five
Since someone mentioned my name
An historical and up-to-date note
Recent memory first -- coz this triggered that I was supposed to
tell others in the dept :-)--- rdesktop works fine on our
linux machines (version 1.1 -- the older versions
had a few problems earlier this year).
I just went
DSE have now modified their web site driver links for this product.
Col.
The one from DSE web site appears to be the same as the r-333-5.tgz file
which the Intel site said was for 2.2 kernels.
I tried the 536ep first and it didn't work. I had to peel the sticker off
the chip on the modem to
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 10:07, Nick Elder wrote:
CLUG members,
I presume we are going to have a trouble shooting meeting at the next
meeting?? Only about three weeks away now: Thursday 5th December.
Didn't we talk about some sort of 'festivity'?
Is this still on?
--
Sincerely etc.,
Hi-ho,
Cracking please, hacking is a good thing (oh darn, someone started that
thread again)
At least you didn't get caught by the boys in blue sequential dialing
phone number blocks with an amstrad C128..
Ahem.
Carl Cerecke wrote:
Peter van Hout wrote:
Yes it is.
Do the police know
On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 09:41:10PM +1300, Adrian Stacey wrote:
basement (garage really). In fact, I've currently got a digital camera on
loan from the shop next to work, so I'm getting this all onto a webpage.
Rack? Luxury, mine are just stacked up on top of each other, I dream of
a
Mahesh De Silva wrote:
I figured a LUG would know not to call it hacking..
when its actually cracking..
I think of cracking as a sort-of subset of hacking.
To me, the hack value is more important than the crack value.
So, hacking in the jargon-file sense is correct.
It is true, I think, that
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 07:31:25PM +1300, Carl Cerecke wrote:
Or am I on crack?
Yes.
Cracking is the act of maliciously attacking a service, device, machine,
institution, whatever, to cause harm, and/or attempt to show some childish
prowess or something.
Hacking is the act of 'hacking' on
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002 23:47, you wrote:
There is a zipped version for windows users in the bottom attachment @
http://berty.dyndns.org/forum/read.php?f=29i=27t=27
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 23:11, Zane Gilmore wrote:
I or whoever could demonstrate a hello world program in C.
Showing the compilation
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Michael Beattie wrote:
I used to think perl was evil, until I learnt it.
I used to think Perl was evil, then I learnt it.
Then I learnt Perl Oops, and became sure that Perl _is_ Evil.
I took a long look at Python but concluded that its was neat, cute, but
less expressive
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Mark Carey wrote:
while () {
if (/\S/) {
if (/^\s*[a-zA-Z]/) {
} else {
print;
}
}
}
Oi! This is perl, why all the cruft?
perl -ne 'print if /\S/ !/^\s*[\w]/'
you needn't even drag perl into this...
grep -vE '^[
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