OT - DHCP with cable modem

2003-09-23 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
I have offered to help set up a friends home network but I want some info before I go to his house so I am prepared. Does anyone on list know if the S5100i cable modem connected via Paradise/Telstra Clear can use dhcp? Yes I have already Googled for the info which suggests it can but it seems

RE: OT - DHCP with cable modem

2003-09-23 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
Ignore this request. I just (eventually) got a response from Paradise. They issue a static IP address so I suppose I will have to install a router/firewall for my friend. Robert Never test the depth of the water with both feet. -Original Message- From: Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)

Re: OT - DHCP with cable modem

2003-09-23 Thread Yuri de Groot
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 10:05, Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) wrote: Ignore this request. I just (eventually) got a response from Paradise. They issue a static IP address so I suppose I will have to install a router/firewall for my friend. That's right. Paradise cable modems connect to a computer or

OT -ADSL router capable of multiple VPN connections to same serve r?

2003-09-23 Thread Bryce Stenberg
Hi everyone, This is quite off topic but as a number of people reading this list seem to have wide experience I thought I'd give it go I need to find a multiport ADSL router (for connecting to phone line) that has the ability to allow multiple simultaneous VPN sessions (using PPTP) through

Re: OT - DHCP with cable modem

2003-09-23 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 09:42, you wrote: I have offered to help set up a friends home network but I want some info before I go to his house so I am prepared. Does anyone on list know if the S5100i cable modem connected via Paradise/Telstra Clear can use dhcp? Paradise allocated me a single

Re: OT - DHCP with cable modem

2003-09-23 Thread CF
On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 09:42, Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) wrote: I have offered to help set up a friends home network but I want some info before I go to his house so I am prepared. Does anyone on list know if the S5100i cable modem connected via Paradise/Telstra Clear can use dhcp? Not in the

Re: OT - DHCP with cable modem

2003-09-23 Thread Nick Rout
are you asking whether it can act as a dhcp server to hand out addresses to the lan, or whether it acts as a dhcp client to obtain an ip address from paradise? in any case the connection is raw and unprotected. its like sex without a condom, anything can get in or out, and will get in. hell vik

RE: OT - DHCP with cable modem

2003-09-23 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
OK, for me I would set up a firewall / dhcp server like IPCop but for my friend who is less computer literate than me I thought that a hardware NAT / dhcp server might be better. Anyone know of a supplier of these in NZ? Robert -Original Message- From: Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)

RE: OT -ADSL router capable of multiple VPN connections to same s erve r?

2003-09-23 Thread Bryce Stenberg
Hi again, So is each workstation making a separate PPTP connection to the router? No, the pptp tunnel is from the client's PC through to the server on the internet, the router has to do network address (and port?) translation. Or are they making a PPTP connection to the remote VPN server on

RE: OT -ADSL router capable of multiple VPN connections to same s erve r?

2003-09-23 Thread CF
On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 12:06, Bryce Stenberg wrote: So is each workstation making a separate PPTP connection to the router? No, the pptp tunnel is from the client's PC through to the server on the internet, the router has to do network address (and port?) translation. Or are they making a

Re: OT -ADSL router capable of multiple VPN connections to same s erve r?

2003-09-23 Thread Nick Rout
this appears to be the tecnical reason: Q. I cannot connect from more than one computer at the same time. A. PPTP uses protocol GRE (47) for it's tunnel. When two clients behind a single NAT firewall connect to the same PPTP server, their source IP address will be rewritten by their firewall.

Re: OT -ADSL router capable of multiple VPN connections to same s erve r?

2003-09-23 Thread Nick Rout
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 12:41:16 +1200 CF [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does IPCOP do anything to help in this instance? http://www.ipcop.org/1.3.0/en/admin/html/vpnaw.html That says VPNs are possible, terminated from the IPCOP box. thats an ipsec vpn, quite different to pptp. it creates a tunnel

Meeting Agenda

2003-09-23 Thread Mal R Ellis
Could someone give me the agenda for next Monday nights meeting and confirm that it is at the hall in Sydenham at 7.30 pm. Many thanks ... Mal

RE: OT -ADSL router capable of multiple VPN connections to same s erve r?

2003-09-23 Thread Bryce Stenberg
Hi Nick, Good to actually see the technical reasons for it - I wonder why only the Nokia bothered making their router work for it. I'm very constrained in what can be used - and that is a router at most clients sites - the users have no expertise, but can manage plug their network cables here

Re: OT -ADSL router capable of multiple VPN connections to same s erve r?

2003-09-23 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 14:03, you wrote: They don't want yet another computer just to get a connection. Indeed! But they _do_ want another computer to protect them from all the evil-doers out there. You should see my log files with all the cracking attempts. -- Sincerely etc., Christopher Sawtell

Re: OT -ADSL router capable of multiple VPN connections to same s erve r?

2003-09-23 Thread Nick Rout
and with a NAT router/modem they do get that protection to a large degree. Nothing gets in without a pinhole set by the user (same as ipcop) or a flaw in the router (possible, also possible with ipcop). you don't get to control what goes out (same on ipcop, although a rewrite of the iptables

Re: OT -ADSL router capable of multiple VPN connections to same s erve r?

2003-09-23 Thread Matthew Gregan
On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 03:09:01PM +1200, Nick Rout wrote: and with a NAT router/modem they do get that protection to a large degree. Nothing gets in without a pinhole set by the user (same as ipcop) or a flaw in the router (possible, also possible with ipcop). nevertheless most people are

RE: OT -ADSL router capable of multiple VPN connections to same s erve r?

2003-09-23 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
..and I found some on Trademe. -Original Message- From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 24 September 2003 3:09 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: OT -ADSL router capable of multiple VPN connections to sames erve r? and with a NAT

RE: OT -ADSL router capable of multiple VPN connections to same s erve r?

2003-09-23 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
I am with Nick on this one. After using IPCop for a while I realised that my ADSL router with NAT did everything which I used IPCop for, so I retired the IPCop box. Robert Never test the depth of the water with both feet. -Original Message- From: Matthew Gregan [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: OT -ADSL router capable of multiple VPN connections to same s erve r?

2003-09-23 Thread Matthew Gregan
On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 03:53:02PM +1200, wrote: I am with Nick on this one. After using IPCop for a while I realised that my ADSL router with NAT did everything which I used IPCop for, so I retired the IPCop box. How does your ADSL router handle source routed packets? -mjg -- Matthew

RE: OT -ADSL router capable of multiple VPN connections to same s erve r?

2003-09-23 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
Perhaps I should have worded .. .everything which I deliberately used IPCop for. -Original Message- From: Matthew Gregan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 24 September 2003 3:56 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: OT -ADSL router capable of

Re: OT -ADSL router capable of multiple VPN connections to same s erve r?

2003-09-23 Thread Nick Rout
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 15:29:10 +1200 Matthew Gregan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 03:09:01PM +1200, Nick Rout wrote: and with a NAT router/modem they do get that protection to a large degree. Nothing gets in without a pinhole set by the user (same as ipcop) or a flaw in

Re: OT -ADSL router capable of multiple VPN connections to same s erve r?

2003-09-23 Thread Matthew Gregan
On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 04:05:36PM +1200, wrote: Perhaps I should have worded .. .everything which I deliberately used IPCop for. You weren't using IPCop as a firewall? NAT does not provide the same protection as a packet filter or firewall. I tried to hint at this with my

RE: OT -ADSL router capable of multiple VPN connections to same s erve r?

2003-09-23 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
I cannot remember the details now but I used the fairly standard IPCop settings with a couple of pinholes enabled. Robert Never test the depth of the water with both feet. -Original Message- From: Matthew Gregan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 24 September 2003 4:11

unix server co-operative?

2003-09-23 Thread Jim Cheetham
Does anyone know of an NZ unix server co-operative? By that, I mean a unix box on the Internet, where a member can have root access easily available? I co-admin ourshack.com, which runs in the UK, and there we have about a dozen sysadmins, all pitching in to different parts of the system. It

Re:(slightly OT) Upgrade to gcc3.2

2003-09-23 Thread mrblobby
Hi Jaco, Is it save to upgrade to gcc 3.2 on a RH7.3 box ? This I cannot answer sorry... I have unsuccessfully tried to install Epson's Iscan some time back. OT Chris is quite right about xsane not being on top of scanning. It is okay for colour prints, colour slide film and bw negatives,

Re: Using KsCD

2003-09-23 Thread mrblobby
Hi there, is your cd volume muted/turned right down. run the mixer and check. On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:28:36 +1200 Mal R Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I upgraded to Linux Mandrake 9.1 but it lost me the use of KsCD . Any suggestion on how to get it running again. It is still in the

Re: (slightly OT) Upgrade to gcc3.2

2003-09-23 Thread Nick Rout
have you got iscan running on mandrake 9.1 yet? this person did: http://www.mostang.com/pipermail/sane-devel/2003-August/008593.html On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 04:32:07 + (GMT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cannot get quality scans on 4x6 high-quality prints with xsane. Iscan (when I had mandrake

RE: OT -ADSL router capable of multiple VPN connections to same s erve r?

2003-09-23 Thread David Zanetti
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Matthew Gregan wrote: NAT does not provide the same protection as a packet filter or firewall. That depends on a lot of factors and exactly what you define as a packet filter or a firewall. There's a few misunderstandings

Re: OT -ADSL router capable of multiple VPN connections to same s erve r?

2003-09-23 Thread Nick Rout
post of the month, thanks for the explanation. On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:41:21 +1200 (NZST) David Zanetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Matthew Gregan wrote: NAT does not provide the same protection as a packet filter or

Re: (slightly OT) Upgrade to gcc3.2

2003-09-23 Thread mrblobby
Hi there, have you got iscan running on mandrake 9.1 yet? Not yet. this person did: http://www.mostang.com/pipermail/sane-devel/2003-August/008593.html I hadn't read that, but already tried the method mentioned. I note that Iscan docs claim if you installed sane from rpm, get iscan from

Re: (slightly OT) Upgrade to gcc3.2

2003-09-23 Thread Nick Rout
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 04:49:16 + (GMT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, have you got iscan running on mandrake 9.1 yet? Not yet. this person did: http://www.mostang.com/pipermail/sane-devel/2003-August/008593.html I hadn't read that, but already tried the method

Re:(slightly OT) Upgrade to gcc3.2

2003-09-23 Thread Jaco Swart
I cannot get quality scans on 4x6 high-quality prints with xsane. Iscan (when I had mandrake 9.0) was able to do a beautiful job, even right up at 1200 dpi. Xsane scans even at super-high res makes pictures taken on my thousand dollar Minolta SLR camera look like they came from a cheap 35mm