Re: How many spam a day?

2004-02-26 Thread Nick Rout
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 20:27, Christopher Sawtell wrote: I am protected by the Brightmail product installed at Paradise. It catches about 90% or so. Leaving me to deal with about 10 at the most per day. So that means that pre-filtering I get of the order of 100 per day. A fair few of the

Re: How many spam a day?

2004-02-26 Thread Nick Rout
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 21:40, Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 21:07, Nick Rout wrote: On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 20:27, Christopher Sawtell wrote: I am protected by the Brightmail product installed at Paradise. It catches about 90% or so. Leaving me to deal with about 10 at the

Re: IPCop or Mandrake Network Firewall

2004-02-26 Thread Chad
MNF is now at 8.2. and weight's in at about 200MB. Here's a review for it. http://www.open-mag.com/01863583279.htm MNF also uses urpmi as it's update tool so it's quite easy to set it to auto update once a day, once a week, once a month what ever you prefer. Also Mandrake releases security

Re: Everyone uses it Was:Church opensource.

2004-02-26 Thread Wesley Parish
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 19:37, you wrote: snip ^ Cool Ten Is actually nearer the mark! It does not cover the Win O/S itself. Re-cycling machines which are still in good working order but ex=lease a site contract is not

Re: Church opensource.

2004-02-26 Thread Patrick Dunford
Jim Cheetham wrote: On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 10:04, Patrick Dunford wrote: The reason why cost saving is not a big deal is that most people I know in church circles aren't that tight. Although in practice that's a fine answer, and it's quite likely the right answer for you, there's a fine

Re: How many spam a day?

2004-02-26 Thread Philip Charles
FYI, I get about 200 spams per day. ~50% of my mail. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux

Re: dse laptop

2004-02-26 Thread Michael Pearce
I will let you know what the pricing is when I recieve the email from DSE. Mike -- Linux Rocks!

Re: digital camera advice

2004-02-26 Thread Rex Johnston
On Fri, 2004-02-27 at 19:05, anton wrote: I don't know much about digital cameras but would prefer it to be able to work as a webcam and possibly take video as well. Is this unrealistic for the price? Are there issues with linux drivers? The Canon A series work good with gphoto2. Any

Ihug Ultra on 2.4 kernel

2004-02-26 Thread LEE Tet Yoon
Reading the archives told me someone managed to get Ihug Ultra drivers working under 2.4 kernel. Is that or anyone else who did the same thing still here and if so could you tell me how you did it? Thanks

deb/apt questions

2004-02-26 Thread Nick Rout
on a debian system, how do I 1. find out what package a file belongs to (equivalent rpm command rpm -qf /etc/passwd, gentoo command qpkg -f /etc/passwd) 2. find out what version of a package is installed (equivalent rpm command rpm -q postfix, gentoo command etcat -v postfix) Sorry no man

Re: network problem

2004-02-26 Thread Rex Johnston
On Fri, 2004-02-27 at 06:22, Roger Searle wrote: Pings not being absorbed locally by zonealarm pro - I can ping between 2 desktops, one running xp, the other running mandrake. Can't ping the notebook from either. No, i meant installed on the laptop. Try, as root, iptables -L on the

National Radio, 11am, item on OSS

2004-02-26 Thread Timothy Musson
Just heard that there'll be a short item about Open Source software on National Radio this morning, at 11am. Not 100% sure I heard right, so it might pay to tune in a little earlier (say, 10:45am) if you're interested. Tim -- Timothy Musson - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

OT: Wall mounting modem.

2004-02-26 Thread Steve Holdoway
Hi folks, sorry to be a bit ot, but I'm trying to get the casing of a Thompson speedtouch 510 ADSL router apart so I can screw it to the wall, but I'm having problems working out how to do this! I've got the silver bit that covers the network connections off, but it looks like brute strength to

DSE to launch laptops wotout OS today

2004-02-26 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/NL/C904D73068F79AD4CC256E46000F1A00 Regards, Robert Fisher SI Operations Support Manager Fuji Xerox NZ Ltd Phone: 03 374 4709 Mobile: 027 477 3356 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windscreen.

Re: deb/apt questions

2004-02-26 Thread Mike Beattie
On Fri, Feb 27, 2004 at 08:07:25AM +1300, Rex Johnston wrote: 2. find out what version of a package is installed dpkg -l Use: COLUMNS=150 dpkg -l package so that the whole version string fits. (it chops bits so that the output looks good on $COLUMNS columns.) Mike. -- Mike Beattie [EMAIL

Re: How many spam a day?

2004-02-26 Thread Mike Beattie
On Thu, Feb 26, 2004 at 10:45:56PM +1300, Philip Charles wrote: FYI, I get about 200 spams per day. ~50% of my mail. I'd see the same proportion, but I get more mail... perhaps about 1000 spam a day. Mike. -- Mike Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] ZL4TXK, IRLP Node 6184

RE: DSE to launch laptops wotout OS today

2004-02-26 Thread Brad Beveridge
Nice. I wonder what the price pointing would be? With only a Crusoe processor, this laptop will only be a lightweight in the performance category, but could possibly do quite well with battery life. Anybody have details of what model the latop is? Brad -Original Message- From:

Re: dse laptop

2004-02-26 Thread Nick Rout
see product number XC3394 On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 09:37:12 +1300 Michael Pearce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will let you know what the pricing is when I recieve the email from DSE. Mike -- Linux Rocks! -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Mandrake 10 install question

2004-02-26 Thread Steve Bell
Hi I installed (kind of) MDK10 RC1 at home last night, on dual boot XP PII350 320MB RAM. Has anyone else on list installed this? Reason I ask is the sucker did a text based install on me (yuk). Did it do a graphical install for you? Next thing was I chose internet computer and Multimedia

RE: Mandrake 10 install question

2004-02-26 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
Another trick I have found with Mandrake (certainly helped my success rate) is at the end of the full installation you get the option to configure several options - I always click every one now and it seem to help. Once again, the upgraded video card was all that I needed to get the graphical

Re: dse OS-less laptop

2004-02-26 Thread Nick Rout
OK immediate thoughts: see product number XC3394 on http://www.dse.co.nz/ price $1500, not bad. one of the cheaper laptops around. but see below. transmeta crusoe 1GHz - not the fastest, but should be ok no floppy (do we care any more?) cdrw/dvd - great video - no mention of chipset, it works

Re: Mandrake 10 install question

2004-02-26 Thread Chad
They've cleaned up the menu a fair bit and it's alot smaller than it used to be. Most stuffs still there just in various sub menu's. It is possible that the menu's weren't updated properly I'd suggest running update-menus as root or normal user and then log out and back in. Also if your missing

RE: dse OS-less laptop

2004-02-26 Thread Brad Beveridge
I'd tend to agree. I'd like to see a link to a non-DSE site that has a howto a review of that laptop. Or even details of the manufacturer so you could do your own research on what people think of that machine. Though, I can see this machine fitting nicely into the category where I'd recommend

Re: dse OS-less laptop

2004-02-26 Thread Luuk Paulussen
Seems more like keep costs down by supplying something cut down with no ability to upgrade the memory, and no ability to use the very good and cheap collection of available, linux compatible pcmcia gear out there. I can't see where the no OS discount applies. Add $200 for Win XP and you are at

Re: National Radio, 11am, item on OSS

2004-02-26 Thread Linux Shop
On Fri, 2004-02-27 at 09:17, Timothy Musson wrote: Just heard that there'll be a short item about Open Source software on National Radio this morning, at 11am. Not 100% sure I heard right, so it might pay to tune in a little earlier (say, 10:45am) if you're interested. 11.30 am, Linda Clark

RE: Mandrake 10 install question

2004-02-26 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
But it has KDE 3.2 without Kontact Regards, Robert Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windscreen. -Original Message- From: Chad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 27 February 2004 10:36 a.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Mandrake 10 install

Re: National Radio, 11am, item on OSS

2004-02-26 Thread Jason Greenwood
Cheers! =) Tuned in now... Linux Shop wrote: On Fri, 2004-02-27 at 11:20, Jason Greenwood wrote: Ok, what's the station/frequency/FM/AM?? Nationwide tuning details at: http://www.radionz.co.nz/index.php?nav=1section=tune#freq Linux Shop wrote: On Fri, 2004-02-27 at 09:17, Timothy Musson

Web site monitor?

2004-02-26 Thread Roy Britten
Any recommendations for Linux-based tool for checking the availability/integrity of a web site? I don't want to just check for the existence of a service on port 80, I want to, at a minimum, check for appropriate/correct page content, and preferably be able to script up some navigation, form

Re: Web site monitor?

2004-02-26 Thread Jim Cheetham
On Fri, 2004-02-27 at 11:32, Roy Britten wrote: Any recommendations for Linux-based tool for checking the availability/integrity of a web site? I don't want to just check for the existence of a service on port 80, I want to, at a minimum, check for appropriate/correct page content, and

Re: National Radio, 11am, item on OSS

2004-02-26 Thread Chris Bayley
Pretty good review od OSS by and large - apart from the part about about it automatically wiping out windows! Does Red Hat do this? I haven't installed it for a long time, but I know the last couple of time I installed mandrake it always set up my machine for dual boot, and understand it even

photo management software

2004-02-26 Thread Carl Cerecke
OK, now that I've got a digital camera (thanks Jason), I'm going to need some software to manage all those photos, and present them in nice HTML for uploading to a website. Any recommendations?

Re: network problem

2004-02-26 Thread Roger Searle
Re zonealarm, I have an ip range covering these IP addresses in the trusted zone. I see that on a windows machine, I can see the workgroup name that the mandrake notebook is in, but can't do anything with it. No, i meant installed on the laptop. Try, as root, iptables -L on the laptop. I get

RE: photo management software

2004-02-26 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
BTW I asked a similar question in December. Here is the start of the thread http://lists.ethernal.org/cantlug-0312/msg00079.html Regards, Robert Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windscreen. -Original Message- From: Carl Cerecke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: photo management software

2004-02-26 Thread Jason Greenwood
You're welcome. =) Kalbum - Prt of most KDE installations, nice app. JAlbum - http://www.datadosen.se/jalbum/ Digikam - http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=9957 another nice KDE integrated app. Gallery - http://gallery.menalto.com/ Album - http://marginalhacks.com/Hacks/album/

Re: photo management software

2004-02-26 Thread Ross Drummond
On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 13:46, you wrote: OK, now that I've got a digital camera (thanks Jason), I'm going to need some software to manage all those photos, and present them in nice HTML for uploading to a website. Any recommendations? I use igal. Creates thumbs in an index web page. Uses Perl

Re: photo management software

2004-02-26 Thread Nick Rout
album On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 13:46:08 +1300 Carl Cerecke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, now that I've got a digital camera (thanks Jason), I'm going to need some software to manage all those photos, and present them in nice HTML for uploading to a website. Any recommendations? -- Nick Rout

Re: photo management software

2004-02-26 Thread Nick Rout
On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 13:55:54 +1300 Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use Imagemagick for resize and rotations then Album for a very quick gallery Album automatically creates a page with thumbnails but IMHO they are a bit large. changeable. RTM Regards, Robert

Re: photo management software

2004-02-26 Thread Jim Cheetham
On Fri, 2004-02-27 at 14:23, Carl Cerecke wrote: Which produces the nicest output? is most flexible? is easiest to use? http://gallery.sf.net runs on a PHP-enabled apache server, and provides great facilities for managing photos c on a website. It doesn't help you with managing them on your

Re: photo management software

2004-02-26 Thread Jason Greenwood
Haven't tried them all yet but I like Kalbum myself. =) Cheers J Carl Cerecke wrote: Jason Greenwood wrote: You're welcome. =) Kalbum - Prt of most KDE installations, nice app. JAlbum - http://www.datadosen.se/jalbum/ Digikam - http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=9957 another nice

Re: Mandrake 10 install question

2004-02-26 Thread Chad
Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) wrote: But it has KDE 3.2 without Kontact Regards, Robert Did kontact install as it should have been on the first two CD's. Try using a terminal to see if you can run it. On my system it's under internet email. The package will be on the first cd.

Re: photo management software

2004-02-26 Thread Jim Cheetham
On Fri, 2004-02-27 at 15:08, Patrick Dunford wrote: However, I'd consider hard disk to be the most durable safe storage medium, see recent discussions about the long-term storage capabilities of CD, DVD etc. So every few years, read in your data, and write it out to something different :-)

Re: photo management software

2004-02-26 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
However, I'd consider hard disk to be the most durable safe storage medium Don't be foolish. Your statement may be correct only while the disk is stored outside of any computer in suitable environmental conditions. Even then, bearings have been known to dry up / seize up by extended periods of

Re: Thank You Team: Over Load

2004-02-26 Thread Nick Rout
On Fri, Feb 27, 2004 at 02:34:40PM +1300, Don Gould wrote: Linux Open Source Users: I belong to the Canterbury Linux User Group Mailing List - It took me 10 years to learn to be productive with Outlook - How many installfests do you think it will take to become productive with Linux?

RE: Thank You Team: Over Load

2004-02-26 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
The first PIM I used with Linux was Evolution. Because I was already proficient with Outlook too, I was proficient with Evolution after the 1 or 2 minute setup procedure. Regards, Robert Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windscreen. -Original Message- From: Nick Rout

Re: digital camera advice

2004-02-26 Thread anton
anton wrote: Hi, My partner and I are going overseas and want to get a digital camera. We would be looking to spend in the $400 to $600 bracket, and that would probably need to include a reasonable memory chip/card (or whatever it is, either packaged with or bought separately). I will, of

digital camera advice

2004-02-26 Thread anton
Hi, My partner and I are going overseas and want to get a digital camera. We would be looking to spend in the $400 to $600 bracket, and that would probably need to include a reasonable memory chip/card (or whatever it is, either packaged with or bought separately). I will, of course, be

Re: Thank You Team: Over Load

2004-02-26 Thread Mike Beattie
On Fri, Feb 27, 2004 at 02:34:40PM +1300, Don Gould wrote: Linux Open Source Users: I belong to the Canterbury Linux User Group Mailing List - It took me 10 years to learn to be productive with Outlook - How many installfests do you think it will take to become productive with Linux? I smell

RE: Mandrake 10 install question

2004-02-26 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
Well I have gone back to 9.2 now - with sound. I think I will wait until a stable version is available for 10. Regards, Robert Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windscreen. -Original Message- From: Chad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 27 February 2004 3:16

Re: photo management software

2004-02-26 Thread Patrick Dunford
Jim Cheetham wrote: On Fri, 2004-02-27 at 14:23, Carl Cerecke wrote: Which produces the nicest output? is most flexible? is easiest to use? http://gallery.sf.net runs on a PHP-enabled apache server, and provides great facilities for managing photos c on a website. It doesn't help you with

Thank You Team: Over Load

2004-02-26 Thread Don Gould
This is just a quick note to say thanks to everyone who helped last week with questions and answers. Please don't be offended if I didn't respond to some things. I'm now a bit over loaded with information again. Keep up the fantastic work guys! :) OT: If you know anyone at City Care

Re: photo management software

2004-02-26 Thread Carl Cerecke
Jason Greenwood wrote: You're welcome. =) Kalbum - Prt of most KDE installations, nice app. JAlbum - http://www.datadosen.se/jalbum/ Digikam - http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=9957 another nice KDE integrated app. Gallery - http://gallery.menalto.com/ Album -

Re: network problem

2004-02-26 Thread Roger Searle
Try dmesg | grep -A 10 8139 [EMAIL PROTECTED] roger]# dmesg | grep -A 10 8139 8139too Fast Ethernet driver 0.9.26 eth0: RealTek RTL8139 Fast Ethernet at 0xd88f7000, 00:00:e2:9c:46:72, IRQ 3 eth0: Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8139C' inserting floppy driver for 2.4.22-10mdk Floppy drive(s): fd0

RE: photo management software

2004-02-26 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
I use Imagemagick for resize and rotations then Album for a very quick gallery Album automatically creates a page with thumbnails but IMHO they are a bit large. Regards, Robert Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windscreen. -Original Message- From: Carl Cerecke

Re: installfest

2004-02-26 Thread Zane Gilmore
It looks like this years instalfest might be a bit later in the year this time 'round as I have been under more stress than usual at enrolment and there appears to have not been any other venues sorted out. Will try to get something under way in a month or so. Unless someone else can get a

Re: National Radio, 11am, item on OSS

2004-02-26 Thread Jason Greenwood
Does this guy have a clue?? Did he do research? Notes? Sounds like he'd doing it off the cuff. BAD BAD. He is doing a very bad PR job IMHO. I am cringing now... Ok, here goes, she asks Why use Linux, this should be good... Cheers J Linux Shop wrote: On Fri, 2004-02-27 at 11:20, Jason

Re: What do you use Linux for?

2004-02-26 Thread Mike Beattie
On Thu, Feb 26, 2004 at 09:34:32AM +1300, Craig Falconer wrote: Well I thought this thread was going to be boring... But there have been some interesting commments. Indeed... Here's the special stuff I use linux for (in addition to all the standard stuff mentioned already) I'll do the same:

Re: National Radio, 11am, item on OSS

2004-02-26 Thread Linux Shop
On Fri, 2004-02-27 at 11:20, Jason Greenwood wrote: Ok, what's the station/frequency/FM/AM?? Nationwide tuning details at: http://www.radionz.co.nz/index.php?nav=1section=tune#freq Linux Shop wrote: On Fri, 2004-02-27 at 09:17, Timothy Musson wrote: Just heard that there'll be a short

Re: National Radio, 11am, item on OSS

2004-02-26 Thread Jason Greenwood
Ok, what's the station/frequency/FM/AM?? Cheers J Linux Shop wrote: On Fri, 2004-02-27 at 09:17, Timothy Musson wrote: Just heard that there'll be a short item about Open Source software on National Radio this morning, at 11am. Not 100% sure I heard right, so it might pay to tune in a little

Re: dse OS-less laptop

2004-02-26 Thread Jason Greenwood
PLEASE email DSE these comments, PLEASE. =) I think they might listed to a well versed series of arguments like that... Cheers Jason Nick Rout wrote: OK immediate thoughts: see product number XC3394 on http://www.dse.co.nz/ price $1500, not bad. one of the cheaper laptops around. but see

Re: Mandrake 10 install question

2004-02-26 Thread Jason Greenwood
You'd defect if an RC didn't work?!? It's not supposed to work perfectly, thus the RC designator. I have installed RC1 and did not have the problems you had. Actually, I installed over my latest Cooker install when the kernel borked unstable on me. I had a graphical installer and it detected

Re: How many spam a day?

2004-02-26 Thread Luuk Paulussen
I had a couple of spam e-mails this month on one e-mail adderss out of 4. Not quite sure why I get none - please don't sign me up though... I think all my e-mail addresses have filters at the ISP end. I don't get any in my hotmail account in my junk mail folder either though... From: Mike

Re: Church opensource.

2004-02-26 Thread Yuri de Groot
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 18:54, you wrote: Without wanting to sound to offensive... I haven't found logic to the the strong suit of most church-goers...Evil is what the minister/priest/pastor says it is. Anton I'd leave a church like that. The minister at my church is very open to people

Re: Church opensource. Getting OT here...

2004-02-26 Thread Yuri de Groot
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 14:52, you wrote: But I reckon the real question is... What OS Would Jesus Do? ;-)) FreeBSD - but only after exorcising the mascot :-)

Re: Church opensource.

2004-02-26 Thread Yuri de Groot
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 10:51, you wrote: Wasting money is a moral crime. If your church has excess cash, I presume it spends it on doing good for the community. The more excess it has, the more it can spend on doing good. Therefore the less it has, the less good it can do. Therefore the choice of

Re: dse laptop

2004-02-26 Thread Nick Rout
forwarded from nzlug yesterday Forwarded by Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Original Message --- From:Chris Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date:Thu, 26 Feb 2004 11:54:31 +1300 Subject: RE: [nzlug] Pre-installed Linux PC Vendors

Re: OT: Wall mounting modem.

2004-02-26 Thread Nick Rout
If this is the same as the alcatel seppdtouch i beoive i saw instructions on the web once. In fact I have hed mine open without breaking it. google? On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 09:21:06 +1300 Steve Holdoway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, sorry to be a bit ot, but I'm trying to get the casing of a

RE: deb/apt questions

2004-02-26 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
In Gentoo I use the command emerge -s packagename -s = search - Shows latest versions available and version installed Just another example of the many different ways to do things with Linux. Regards, Robert Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windscreen. -Original

Re: deb/apt questions

2004-02-26 Thread Rex Johnston
On Fri, 2004-02-27 at 07:54, Nick Rout wrote: on a debian system, how do I 1. find out what package a file belongs to dpkg -S 2. find out what version of a package is installed dpkg -l Sorry no man pages on this debian install, its pebble, a cut down version, made small by stripping

Re: Ihug Ultra on 2.4 kernel

2004-02-26 Thread LEE Tet Yoon
At 03:39 a.m. 27/02/2004, I wrote: Reading the archives told me someone managed to get Ihug Ultra drivers working under 2.4 kernel. Is that or anyone else who did the same thing still here and if so could you tell me how you did it? Forgot to mention, if anyone got them working under 2.6 I'd be

Re: network problem

2004-02-26 Thread Roger Searle
Rex Johnston wrote: Roger Searle wrote: Notebook IP address 192.168.0.9/255.255.255.0. It has an onboard realtek RTL-8139 network module, the hardware control centre correctly identifies it and lists the 8139too module (driver?). I can ping localhost and ping the IP address on the notebook