folder permissions?

2004-07-28 Thread Roger Searle
Hi, I seem to have lost write access to my folders (has been fine up to now). Symptom 1: I'm using mozilla and have the folders on a fat32 partition so that I can access them running linux (mdk10) or xp. First I could download mail, but clug mail rule couldn't be processed and I get Unable

Re: folder permissions?

2004-07-28 Thread Carl Cerecke
Roger Searle wrote: Hi, I seem to have lost write access to my folders (has been fine up to now). Try typing mount, to check that the partition is mounted rw, not ro. Also, try creating a small file to see if that works: # touch /mnt/win_d/empty Cheers, Carl.

Re: folder permissions?

2004-07-28 Thread Roger Searle
OK this is weird! First I had: [EMAIL PROTECTED] win_d]# mount | grep win_d /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part5 on /mnt/win_d type vfat (rw,codepage=850,umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1) read/write, that's good. [EMAIL PROTECTED] win_d]# touch /mnt/win_d empty [EMAIL PROTECTED] win_d]# ls | grep

Re: folder permissions?

2004-07-28 Thread Roger Searle
Well I shouldn't have spoken so soon, it's broken again! Suddenly back to the same problem with not being able to write to any of the folders. [EMAIL PROTECTED] win_d]# touch /mnt/win_d empty2 touch: setting times of `/mnt/win_d': Read-only file system touch: cannot touch `empty2': Read-only

Re: folder permissions?

2004-07-28 Thread Sascha Beaumont
Roger Searle wrote: Well I shouldn't have spoken so soon, it's broken again! Suddenly back to the same problem with not being able to write to any of the folders. [EMAIL PROTECTED] win_d]# touch /mnt/win_d empty2 touch: setting times of `/mnt/win_d': Read-only file system touch: cannot touch

RE: Installfest

2004-07-28 Thread Nick Rout
Shall do, do you want a mandrake4 cd as well? please reply direct to me so it pops up in my inbox and reminds me in the morning. cheers On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 17:00, Carl Sue Thompson wrote: Wondering if you could send me the systemrescuecd as it is too large for me to download. Would be

Re: Gimp versus PhotoShop

2004-07-28 Thread steve
Carl Cerecke wrote: Carl Cerecke wrote: Mind you, I'm not a lawyer or colour expert. Just a programmer who sees a nifty opportunity :- grr. My zero/left paren key is broken. I also don't know my left from my right. That should be right-paren, for the smiley... ...depends if you're left handed

Re: Gimp versus PhotoShop

2004-07-28 Thread Zane Gilmore
There is something puzzling me... Christopher Sawtell wrote: CMYK is coming. In the GIMP picture menu: Image-Mode-Decompose There is a choice ther for CMYK And it seems to produce four images that might be tcolour separations. Isn't this what is being talked about? (IANA printer but isn't this

Re: Gimp versus PhotoShop

2004-07-28 Thread Sascha Beaumont
Zane Gilmore wrote: In the GIMP picture menu: Image-Mode-Decompose There is a choice ther for CMYK And it seems to produce four images that might be tcolour separations. Isn't this what is being talked about? (IANA printer but isn't this CMYK support?) That creates a CMYK colour

RE: folder permissions?

2004-07-28 Thread David Kirk
Well I shouldn't have spoken so soon, it's broken again! Suddenly back to the same problem with not being able to write to any of the folders. [EMAIL PROTECTED] win_d]# touch /mnt/win_d empty2 touch: setting times of `/mnt/win_d': Read-only file system touch: cannot touch `empty2':

Screenshot of XDM, KDM or GDM - How?

2004-07-28 Thread Yuri de Groot
How does one make a screenshot of the login screen? Yuri

Re: Screenshot of XDM, KDM or GDM - How?

2004-07-28 Thread Michael JasonSmith
On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 09:41, Yuri de Groot wrote: How does one make a screenshot of the login screen? xnest -- Michael JasonSmith http://www.ldots.org/

Re: Screenshot of XDM, KDM or GDM - How?

2004-07-28 Thread Carl Cerecke
Yuri de Groot wrote: How does one make a screenshot of the login screen? import, from the ImageMagick tools. Go to a console (Ctrl-Alt-F1), and try: import -display :0.0 -window root foo.png You might have to delay it for a moment, and switch back to X, for it to work. Try: sleep 10;import

Re: Screenshot of XDM, KDM or GDM - How?

2004-07-28 Thread Andre Renaud
On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 09:41, Yuri de Groot wrote: How does one make a screenshot of the login screen? Yuri Haven't tried it, but once it is running, switch to VT1, and then type (as root): xwd -display :0 | convert xwd:- screenshot.png Assuming that root has access to the display when GDM is

RE: proposal for publicity

2004-07-28 Thread David Kirk
Here is an idea that would give people the option to run Windows programs or Linux programs. There is no need for dual booting, emualtors or virtual machines. Set up an LTSP server and install lots of applications on it. On the Windows workstations, install Cygwin/X (or have them run it from a

Re: Screenshot of XDM, KDM or GDM - How?

2004-07-28 Thread Carl Cerecke
Carl Cerecke wrote: That gives you 10 seconds to switch back to X (Ctrl-F7) Ooops. Alt-F7 to get back to X. Also, it's not always F7. Depends on distribution. Carl.

Re: Screenshot of XDM, KDM or GDM - How?

2004-07-28 Thread Michael JasonSmith
On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 09:56, Carl Cerecke wrote: sleep 10;import -display :0.0 -window root foo.png A good solution. -- Michael JasonSmith http://www.ldots.org/

Re: Screenshot of XDM, KDM or GDM - How?

2004-07-28 Thread Martin Bähr
On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 09:41:57AM +1200, Yuri de Groot wrote: How does one make a screenshot of the login screen? tricky. if you have xdmcp open you can run Xnest -query ... and shoot that. otherwise try adding a commein in Xsetup (eg: /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsetup ) execute in the background a script

Re: New Keyboard (Was: Gimp versus PhotoShop)

2004-07-28 Thread Wayne Rooney
On Wednesday 28 July 2004 16:55, Michael JasonSmith wrote: Oh, and using a non-standard keyboard is l337 as you well know :P Go Dvorak. Not only can you be 1337, no-one else wants to use your computer (or they give up after a couple of minutes) http://www.mwbrooks.com/dvorak/

Re: New Keyboard (Was: Gimp versus PhotoShop)

2004-07-28 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
Go Dvorak. Not only can you be 1337, no-one else wants to use your computer (or they give up after a couple of minutes) http://www.mwbrooks.com/dvorak/ ... Dvorak keymap is carefully adapted to the English language... Possibly why I haven't heard much of it in Europe. Then again, the

Re: Screenshot of XDM, KDM or GDM - How?

2004-07-28 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
Ooops. Alt-F7 to get back to X. Ctrl-Alt-FX to switch console if you're in X. Either Ctrl-Alt-FX or Alt-FX if you're on a text console. Stick with Ctrl-Alt when you're introducing newcomers. Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is possibly list0570 with the domain in header

Re: New Keyboard (Was: Gimp versus PhotoShop)

2004-07-28 Thread Michael JasonSmith
On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 11:33, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: Which country came up with querty? United States http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qwerty -- Michael JasonSmith http://www.ldots.org/

Re: New Keyboard (Was: Gimp versus PhotoShop)

2004-07-28 Thread Nick Rout
On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:33:24 +1200 Volker Kuhlmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go Dvorak. Not only can you be 1337, no-one else wants to use your computer (or they give up after a couple of minutes) http://www.mwbrooks.com/dvorak/ ... Dvorak keymap is carefully adapted to the English

Re: New Keyboard (Was: Gimp versus PhotoShop)

2004-07-28 Thread Carl Cerecke
Nick Rout wrote: qwerty was invented to slow down typists so that their typwriters did not jam so often, or so i was told once. it may be an urban legend, i have no authority for that proposition ither than remebering being told it. Not really. It was designed so that common letter pairs were far

RE: proposal for publicity

2004-07-28 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
David, your doco to set up the Linux Desktop over Cygwin was great. I have been using it at work since the day you posted it on the CLUG mailing list. I have experimented a little though and found that on Mandrake 10 and SuSE 9.1 some of your advice is not needed:- This bit is all I needed

Re: New Keyboard (Was: Gimp versus PhotoShop)

2004-07-28 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
qwerty was invented to slow down typists so that their typwriters did not jam so often Sounds plausible, but so do a lot of urban legends. The story of keyboards is a long one with a lot of suck in it... (I'm currently having usability arguments with KDE Co about bilingual users.) Volker

RE: New Keyboard (Was: Gimp versus PhotoShop)

2004-07-28 Thread Williams, Olwen - SAL
From what I remember about mechanical typewriters letters together on the same row do not have their hammers together. The letters in the rows were staggered and had linkages. The hammers probably go q a z w s x e d c Olwen Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Carl

Re: New Keyboard (Was: Gimp versus PhotoShop)

2004-07-28 Thread Nick Rout
yeah ok i have read the wiki entry now, i was closeish... On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:50:00 +1200 Carl Cerecke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nick Rout wrote: qwerty was invented to slow down typists so that their typwriters did not jam so often, or so i was told once. it may be an urban legend, i

Re: New Keyboard (Was: Gimp versus PhotoShop)

2004-07-28 Thread Carl Cerecke
Williams, Olwen - SAL wrote: From what I remember about mechanical typewriters letters together on the same row do not have their hammers together. The letters in the rows were staggered and had linkages. The hammers probably go q a z w s x e d c Yes. Now that you mention it, I think you are

RE: proposal for publicity

2004-07-28 Thread David Kirk
David, your doco to set up the Linux Desktop over Cygwin was great. I have been using it at work since the day you posted it on the CLUG mailing list. Great. Try the new bits that I have added. You can run a Linux application next to your Windows applications. I am still working on

Re: proposal for publicity

2004-07-28 Thread Nick Rout
On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:10:11 +1200 David Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David, your doco to set up the Linux Desktop over Cygwin was great. I have been using it at work since the day you posted it on the CLUG mailing list. Great. Try the new bits that I have added. You can run a

Re: proposal for publicity

2004-07-28 Thread Nick Rout
I have putty set up with keys to enable automatic logons from my winbox to my server. plink has a -i parameter for key files, just like ssh. the putty suite also has pageant, an authentication agent, which you can put your passphrase into once per session and forget about (although of course

RE: proposal for publicity

2004-07-28 Thread Derek Smithies
Hi, Having had a couple of days to digest the storm of emails on this thread, there is one thing that should be noted. We have all heard stories of how some linux expert came along, did an install, and left the computer owner with a new OS. And the new owner struggled. My view is that if we

Re: Lindows in the news today

2004-07-28 Thread John Carter
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, Robert Fisher wrote: Microsoft has agreed to pay Linux vendor Lindows $US20 million to end a two-and-a-half-year legal battle over the Lindows name, which Microsoft argues is too close to its Windows trademark. Why do I get the urge to register domain names ... echo

Re: proposal for publicity

2004-07-28 Thread Nick Rout
On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:10:15 +1200 (NZST) Derek Smithies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Having had a couple of days to digest the storm of emails on this thread, there is one thing that should be noted. We have all heard stories of how some linux expert came along, did an install, and

RE: proposal for publicity

2004-07-28 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
I am still working on making it easier. As we type, I am trying to eliminate the need for a password by creating a public and a private key. Later David Kirk [Robert Fisher] Good. I have been having a bit of a play here. I can use PuTTY to ssh to a SuSE box here (after changing a line in

RE: proposal for publicity

2004-07-28 Thread David Kirk
If I use cygwin_dir/usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.bat the same password is not accepted. Startxwin.bat shouldn't ask for a password. It should just start X in multi-window mode. You won't see anything onscreen except an X icon in the System Tray. The only time you need to put in a password is

RE: proposal for publicity

2004-07-28 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
The only time you need to put in a password is when you authenticate your ssh session to the Linux box. [Robert Fisher] This is where my password is not accepted. This can be avoided by setting up a public and a private key and using Pagent. I have it working here now. [Robert Fisher] This

RE: proposal for publicity

2004-07-28 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
Actually, what I see in the X window is [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ or put another way... [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ Regards, Robert -Original Message- From: David Kirk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 29 July 2004 4:15 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE:

RE: proposal for publicity

2004-07-28 Thread David Kirk
Actually, what I see in the X window is [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ or put another way... [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ You might need to comment out any extra stuff that it tries to load in your new X server. Check for a line that says: run xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow

RE: proposal for publicity

2004-07-28 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
If I then type... plink.exe -ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] I get... [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: so I type my password (which works if I use PuTTY on the same machines) and get... [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: again. Regards, Robert -Original Message- From: Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)

RE: proposal for publicity

2004-07-28 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
Magic. Thanks David, that works. plink.exe -ssh -X [EMAIL PROTECTED] mozilla worked a treat after REMming that one line from cygwin_dir/usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.bat Mind you, I wonder what benefit that has over using cygwin_dir/usr/X11R6/bin/startxdmcp.bat and getting the full glorious Linux

RE: proposal for publicity

2004-07-28 Thread David Kirk
Mind you, I wonder what benefit that has over using cygwin_dir/usr/X11R6/bin/startxdmcp.bat and getting the full glorious Linux desktop on the Windows machine. It's better than having 2 desktops. How many times have you been using your KDE desktop and pressed Alt-Tab to switch between apps

RE: proposal for publicity

2004-07-28 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
You don't have to wait for the kdm window to come up, then login, then wait for KDE to start up. Just click on the icon and a couple of seconds later the app is there. [Robert Fisher] True. Next challenge: Doing this via port 443 and a proxy server which requires authentication. No problem

Re: Lindows in the news today

2004-07-28 Thread Wayne Rooney
On Thursday 29 July 2004 15:20, John Carter wrote: Why do I get the urge to register domain names ... echo {b,c,d,f,g,h,j,k,l,m,n,p,qu,r,s,st,str,t,tr,v,vr,w,x,y,z}{a,e,i,o,u}nd{o,ou }{w,ws,wz,ze} bandow bandows bandowz bandoze bandouw bandouws bandouwz bandouze bendow bendows bendowz

RE: proposal for publicity

2004-07-28 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
Next challenge: Doing this via port 443 and a proxy server which requires authentication. No problem for PuTTY 'cos it has places for all of these settings in the PuTTY GUI. [Robert Fisher] I should have made myself clearer. When I say no probs for PuTTY I mean that I can run a console using

Re: folder permissions?

2004-07-28 Thread Alasdair Tennant
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 18:14:51 +1200 Roger Searle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I seem to have lost write access to my folders (has been fine up to now). Looking in Konqueror the permissions for all the folders on the partition are shown as rwxrwxrwx, which I thought would be OK? (I don't