Re: Kiwi Online

2010-06-15 Thread max podolian
Thanks everyone for answers.

 If you are using the internal winmodem with that driver, it is
 normally /dev/modem  or on one machine I used it was /dev/ttyS0
 Hope this helps

Slmodem-daemon clearly reports me that I have to use /dev/ttySL0.

Read this page, and the outgoing links, carefully:-

http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/

Yes, it is good source of information, I have started there. I can send my
ModemData.txt, if it will be usefull.

Testing modem using minicom is something new. I will try and report back.

 I gave up on winmodems years ago, and use an old dynalink 56k external,
 with a usb to serial connector set up as  /dev/ttyUSB0

Did you have any problems with establishing connection using that modem? Any
extra drivers? Because I'm thinking of buying usb-modem, if nothing will
help.

 Get a adsl connection with a switch/router. you will find Linux so much
easier. as we all know win modems are pain to get working.

That's great idea, but I for some reasons I have to use dial-up.

Thanks,
Max


Re: Kiwi Online

2010-06-15 Thread chris
On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 14:33 +0300, max podolian wrote:
 Thanks everyone for answers.
snip
 
  I gave up on winmodems years ago, and use an old dynalink 56k
 external,
  with a usb to serial connector set up as  /dev/ttyUSB0
 
 Did you have any problems with establishing connection using that
 modem? Any extra drivers? Because I'm thinking of buying usb-modem, if
 nothing will help.  
I have never had a problem with this set up.
However, it is not a usb modem. It is a serial dynalink 56k connected
through a usb 2 serial cable.  This set up has worked with a several 56k
modems, including Diamond Dynalink, usrobetics, and so on.

The drivers are included in the kernel, however not all usb2serial
connectors seem to work.  The last one I purchased from Dick Smith was
not compatible with Ubuntu.  Trick is to take the laptop and modem with
you and test it before you buy.  Gnome ppp can detect the modem
as /dev/ttyUSB0 if the cable is compatible.

Cheers Chris T



Re: Kiwi Online

2010-06-14 Thread MafiaGeek
Get a adsl connection with a switch/router. you will find Linux so much 
easier. as we all know win modems are pain to get working.


On 14/06/2010 11:53 p.m., max podolian wrote:

Hello, everyone.
I have problem with establishing dial-up connection on Ubuntu 10.04.
My ISP is Kiwi Online.
I use SLMODEMD_gcc4.4_alsa1.0.20 as driver and wvdial to dial. Here is
wvdial.conf:

[Dialer Defaults]
Init1 = ATZ
Init2 = ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0C1D2 +FCLASS=0 +MS=34
Modem Type = Analog Modem
Baud = 460800
New PPPD = yes
Modem = /dev/ttySL0
ISDN = 0
Phone = 087305656
Password = mypassword
Username = myusername
Init3 = ATX3
Carrier Check = no
Stupid Mode = on

I tried with different variations of Stupid Mode and +MS. Whatever I
do I get No Carrier error. Any suggestions?

Thanks.
   




Re: Kiwi Online

2010-06-14 Thread Jim Cheetham
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:53 PM, max podolian max.podol...@gmail.com wrote:
 I tried with different variations of Stupid Mode and +MS. Whatever I
 do I get No Carrier error. Any suggestions?

Connect directly to the modem with something like minicom and see if
it's responding  dialling manually ... you'll find authentication
difficult, but that bit needs to be confirmed anyway.

-jim


Re: Kiwi Online

2010-06-14 Thread chris
On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 01:31 +1200, MafiaGeek wrote:
 Get a adsl connection with a switch/router. you will find Linux so much 
 easier. as we all know win modems are pain to get working.
 
 On 14/06/2010 11:53 p.m., max podolian wrote:
  Hello, everyone.
  I have problem with establishing dial-up connection on Ubuntu 10.04.
  My ISP is Kiwi Online.
  I use SLMODEMD_gcc4.4_alsa1.0.20 as driver and wvdial to dial. Here is
  wvdial.conf:
 
  [Dialer Defaults]
  Init1 = ATZ
  Init2 = ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0C1D2 +FCLASS=0 +MS=34
  Modem Type = Analog Modem
  Baud = 460800
  New PPPD = yes
  Modem = /dev/ttySL0

If you are using the internal winmodem with that driver, it is
normally /dev/modem  or on one machine I used it was /dev/ttyS0
Hope this helps

I gave up on winmodems years ago, and use an old dynalink 56k external,
with a usb to serial connector set up as  /dev/ttyUSB0
 
cheers Chris T



Re: Kiwi Online

2010-06-14 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
On Tue 15 Jun 2010 07:09:44 NZST +1200, chris wrote:

 If you are using the internal winmodem with that driver, it is
 normally /dev/modem

No, that depends on the driver of the particular losemodem you are
using. /dev/SL is probably a dumblink (in the docs mentioned as
smartlink).

Losemodems are almost always a waste of time, especially these days,
when barely anyone uses them any more and the binary-only drivers are no
longer supported by the modem chip makers and are unmaintainable by open
source kernel programmers.

If you can't replace your losemodem with a real modem, ensure you work
out what the problem is in two separate steps, in this order.

1. Establish that you get a carrier. Use a terminal program of your
choice (minicom, cu (part of uucp, you can't run this as root),
whatever) and issue the correct AT commands with your keyboard. Vary the
modem init string as necesssary, then dial the ISP number and see if the
modem reports CONNECT some number. If not, your modem isn't working.

As modem means piece of lousy hardware combined with piece of lousy
driver (and the two are inseparable), draw your own conclusions and get
a real modem.

In my experience it is also almost always necessary to reduce the
reporting level from X4 to something like X2, or the modem doesn't
recognise the dial tone and doesn't proceed.

Fix all this up first, *then*

2. Check your login to your ISP is working. Do this with a terminal
program and follow the ISP prompts. That will also confirm you are
entering your user name and password as your ISP wants it.

When that is working, plonk all the (now verified correct) strings into
wvdial, and test id that makes a connection too.

kinternet and smpppd are superb for this.


And did I mention that with a losemodem, don't be surprised if you don't
get past 1.?

HTH,

Volker

-- 
Volker Kuhlmann
http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me.


Re: Kiwi Online

2010-06-14 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On 15 June 2010 07:09, chris che...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 01:31 +1200, MafiaGeek wrote:
  Get a adsl connection with a switch/router. you will find Linux so much
  easier. as we all know win modems are pain to get working.

Telstra Cable is technically even better.


  On 14/06/2010 11:53 p.m., max podolian wrote:
   Hello, everyone.
   I have problem with establishing dial-up connection on Ubuntu 10.04.
   My ISP is Kiwi Online.
   I use SLMODEMD_gcc4.4_alsa1.0.20 as driver and wvdial to dial. Here is
   wvdial.conf:
  
   [Dialer Defaults]
   Init1 = ATZ
   Init2 = ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0C1D2 +FCLASS=0 +MS=34
   Modem Type = Analog Modem
   Baud = 460800
   New PPPD = yes
   Modem = /dev/ttySL0

 If you are using the internal winmodem with that driver, it is
 normally /dev/modem  or on one machine I used it was /dev/ttyS0
 Hope this helps

/dev/ttySL0 is correct for that driver.
Check that you have the country code configured correctly.

 I gave up on winmodems years ago, and use an old dynalink 56k external,
 with a usb to serial connector set up as  /dev/ttyUSB0

Read this page, and the outgoing links, carefully:-

http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/

In particular download the scanModem script, decompress it, and run it
( as root ).

http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/scanModem.gz

It generates a number of very helpful reports in the Modem sub-directory.

While what others are saying about Winmodems is substantially true, it
is usually possible, given enough time and effort, to get most of the
more recent ones to go under Linux. You might also find this page
useful.

http://www.linuxant.com/


--
Sincerely etc.
Christopher Sawtell