Hey Joe,
You could try consolidating the reports into a single e-mail, like Tony
Bates does with the CIDR report (call it the ROOT report) and include NANOG.
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Yes but, how many registrants?
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We've
We have just been witnesses to Joe Baptista masquerading as Elisabeth
Porteneuve and writting things that, were I Elisabeth, would be personally
embarrasing. Regardless about how I personally view Elisabeth (neutral) or
my disagreement with her ideas, this behaviour is patently ungentelmanly, in
Of William X. Walsh
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On 10-Nov-99 Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:
Last year, when we found out
Becasue Mr. Roberts has the communicativeness of the average clam.
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Please read the attached message from Mark. It makes all of Dave's
points moot. The DNSO NC has just disenfranchised all individual domain
name holders, as a class. We are not the ones being exclusionary. I note
that Dave does not make the same points against either the ICANN or the
DNSO, where
We now have three clear ad hominem attacks by Dave Crocker.
The question is, do we continue to tolerate them?
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At 01:17 PM 7/24/99 , Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:
We now have three clear ad hominem attacks by Dave Crocker.
The question is, do we continue to tolerate them?
Gosh, Roeland
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You can always tell the people that are forging the new frontier.
They're the ones with arrows sticking out of their backs.
Words Of Onno Hovers:
The IFWP list is full of professional nay-sayers, bitchers and
fruitcakes. First the ICANN was attacked for being elitist,
non-democratic and not transparant.
And now the same people are attacking the ICANN for not being
elitist enough. I cannot understand what
Go right ahead, Mr. Gehring. Join the boys, get a little publicity,
have fun, and let IBM and ATT take over the Internet.
I don't think it's going to happen (IBM ATT). What we have here is a more elusive
fish.
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Lead; Follow; Get out of the way;
... pick one!
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Words Of Onno Hovers:
The IFWP list is full of professional nay-sayers, bitchers and
fruitcakes. First the ICANN was attacked for being elitist,
non-democratic and not transparant.
And now the same people are attacking the ICANN for not being
elitist enough. I cannot understand what is
A TLD that has been legally protected, via association with a trademark, may tell the
ICANN/DNSO exactly which dark place to put their policies, or which rope to PUAR. If
the theory holds. In other words, the jurisdiction doesn't hold water.
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From: [EMAIL
As Michael Sondow spake:
Izumi Aizu-
Thank you for your frank response to my posting yesterday on the MAC
recommendations. After reading it, and because of your obvious
forthrightness and sincerity, I have no doubt that you, at least,
have none but the best motivations behind the
/1/99 +, you wrote:
Gregbo and all,
Greg Skinner wrote:
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Furthermore, my guess is that if people start registering
TLDs as trademarks
en masse, eventually we will have the root(s) filled with .ibm, .att,
.yahoo, et
on top of those
national laws will also really help things along.
Guess this will make things safe and sanitized
for ECommerce.
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At 08:18 AM 4/2/99 -0800, Kent Crispin wrote:
On Thu, Apr 01, 1999 at 10:44:41PM -0800, Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:
[...]
Uh, Roeland, if ICANN decides that it needs to change to a Swiss
corporation, what are you going to do? Sue in Swiss Court? Do you
have a Swiss trademark?
Irrelevant
s, some of their points aid my
cause. They present new tools that may be useful.
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is that different from "Bob Allisat [EMAIL PROTECTED]" or
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"? The only difference I see is syntactic.
Semantically it is the same thing. I don't see a reduction of the problem.
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At 09:38 AM 4/1/99 -0800, Greg Skinner wrote:
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Heaven's no! That's why I've kept talking about the "net gods" and the fact
that www.xxx.yyy.zzz cannot be equal to www'.xxx'.yyy'.zzz'. Once you
(or somebody) factors in the fact
the right thing.
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point. But,
preventing the issuance or use of alt-TLDs isn't the answer. Building
systems that would allow them to be used, even by snobs, is.
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to force a resolution.
Hmmm. What power does the USG have to prevent people from using
alternative TLDs?
answer: None.
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At 05:23 PM 3/31/99 -0800, Greg Skinner wrote:
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No, I am saying that the mail system, when confronted by a destination
address it doesn't know, should forward the message to a relay that may
know better what to do with the message. This
iss Stef's explanation of the technical problem?
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actually owned by the tm-holder. However, for all intents
and purposes they have the same control as an owner does, along with the
additional duty to defend that trademark. Are you reversing those
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perspective. Tell me when you
stop chasing your logical tail. Although, you've been doing it so long that
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s actually harder than finding a).
At 08:41 AM 3/27/99 +0200, Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
Richard,
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Richard J. Sexton" writes:
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At 06:30 PM 3/26/99 -0500, Richard J. Sexton wrote:
"Richard J. Sexton&q
At 12:14 PM 3/27/99 +0200, Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
Roeland
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Aw come-on doc. There is nothing illegal about it. There is no way, in a
free society, that this can ever be illegal.
Why is this list full of people
that the
documents will all look relatively the same.
In popular JAD parlance, this is a rat-hole. We could pour a whole ocean
down it and never drown a rat.
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either grin.
Come on folks, do we *really* have to go here?
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serve, either one"
--Thomas Jefferson
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? Someone *demanded* an answer from him. He
gave one, now you castigate him, not for the answer he gave, but for
providing an answer. If you are going to be anal retentive, at least try to
look intelligent while doing so.
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many facets. One can not make assumptions that just because one has a
collaborration on one hand, that a disagreement on the other hand is not
possible. Likewise, disagreement on one front does not necessitate
disagreements on ALL fronts.
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hmuck in Afghanistan or wherever might register YOUR
NAME -- so you'd BETTER GET IT FIRST. I may puke.
These things have a way of coming back to haunt.
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uot;We may well be on our way to a society overrun by hordes
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gTLD claimants and honoring each others name space.
PGMedia is the ONLY source of conflicts thus far. This is because they do
not recognize any of the other players. Even among gTLD players, PGMedia is
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ng. We measured each other and Esther, I feel we know each other better,
all of us who were there. However, since each of us were there for
different reasons and had diverse expectations, the feeling of
accomplishment may not be shared by all.
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, that would a
dumber move, on ICANN's part, then I would normally give them credit for.
It seems to me that impartiality is exactly what ICANN is striving for,
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for argument. But, they aren't and we don't.
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, but ICANN internalizing the DNSO kind of
shoots DNSO.ORG in both feet.
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? What's wrong with profit?
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ctive of a small
set of users with the broader generic objective of all
Internet users.
This same complaint could be directed to Ronda.
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t only size that make the command structure a requirement. There is
the inter-operability requirement and protocols. org to org interactions
are sometimes very formal. In that case, titles and RR are a clear
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will be forced to insert the new TLD. This is the Internet version of all
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At 08:44 PM 3/1/99 -0800, William X. Walsh wrote:
On 02-Mar-99 Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:
At 10:54 PM 3/1/99 -0500, Martin B. Schwimmer wrote:
I'm sorry I wrote that to you as a private post.
OK:
The right to use a trademark is recognized as a kind of property, of which
the owner
At 12:52 PM 3/1/99 -0800, Greg Skinner wrote:
"Roeland M.J. Meyer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would posit that we have just found the natural process by which
new TLDs will have to be created. Further, as Marty, Bill, and I
discussed earlier on this list, all SLDs and oth
make it's way quickly to the slag heap of Internet history too.
Discusted with the whole mess, but long on NSOL,
-rizzy
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At 02:05 AM 2/27/99 -0800, William X. Walsh wrote:
On 27-Feb-99 Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:
Well, one thing came indirectly out of the trademark/DNS discussions is
that if a TLD name is trademarks, as a TLD name, the root-servers dare not
assign it to anyone else. If they did, it would
. It appears that domain
names are owned after all.
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At 12:44 PM 2/27/99 -0800, William X. Walsh wrote:
On 27-Feb-99 Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:
At 02:57 AM 2/27/99 -0800, William X. Walsh wrote:
I can't cite cases right now, but I remember someone else doing so on
one of
these lists where filing a trademark or copyright or related filing
Microsoft's?
Ronda
Netizens: On the History and Impact
of Usenet and the Internet
http://www.columbia.edu/~hauben/netbook/
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on. Thank you for your thoughtful comments
Jim. I always appreciate your insights.
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At 06:18 PM 2/22/99 +0800, Dave Crocker wrote:
At 02:02 AM 2/22/99 -0800, Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:
So, if I understand your position, you would be willing to deal with the
devil himself just to move things forward and crush NSI? That's some pretty
Roeland, I'm impressed with the creativity
At 07:58 PM 2/22/99 +0800, Dave Crocker wrote:
At 02:59 AM 2/22/99 -0800, Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:
That's debatable. Their current level of funding leads one to
think
otherwise. It is arguable that, if they had the support then
they'd have
Their current level of funding? A brand new
At 08:33 AM 2/23/99 +0800, Dave Crocker wrote:
At 08:00 AM 2/22/99 -0800, Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:
which half to respond to, out of context. The defining clause, to the
paragraph you spoke to was thus;
"Personally, I think it is caused by their business structure.Non-profits
*a
, to improve
performance. In fact, that is the primary reason.
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that. It also gets to the implementation question of who approves TLD
charters. It is a question expressly avoided until now.
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y speak for its members, a few American
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At 12:44 AM 2/16/99 -0800, William X. Walsh wrote:
On 16-Feb-99 Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:
NOW we go back up a few thousand feet to the primary question, do TLD
charters serve a purpose? In this specific context, will they help with the
TM vs DNS problem? Bill and Marty both say
At 11:28 AM 2/16/99 +0200, Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 1999, Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:
NOW we go back up a few thousand feet to the primary question, do TLD
charters serve a purpose?
Why should they when they can not be enforced?
That is the second part of the question
, but the rate of additions is much lower. I really
don't see millions of TLDs, but then, no one foresaw millions of COM SLDs
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At 11:35 PM 2/14/99 -0500, Milton Mueller wrote:
Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:
Martin makes a really good case for enforcing TLD charters. NSI has allowed
them to erode simply because the TLD space has been frozen. Do you think
enforced TLD charters would help in reducing this trademark
t;due-diligence" that
would be required of the TLD registry.
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At 12:55 AM 2/15/99 -0500, Antony Van Couvering wrote:
Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:
Martin makes a really good case for enforcing TLD charters. NSI
has allowed
them to erode simply because the TLD space has been frozen. Do
you think
enforced TLD charters would help in reducing
problem. Since the problem is primarily legal, that
must be worked first. Technical and logistical issues only work to
constrain the solution-set.
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At 01:17 AM 2/15/99 -0800, William X. Walsh wrote:
On 15-Feb-99 Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:
Not necessarily. Given sufficient resources and careful crafting of
requirements, all things are implement able. It is largely a matter of
cost/effectiveness. IOW, is the solution larger than
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won't work is
the application of the sledge-hammer, which is what I liken the WIPO
proposal to. That will destroy the entire game board so no one can use it.
It appears that ignoring the peg is also not an acceptable option.
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ballysucks/decision.htm
See also:
http://www.compupix.com/ballysucks/
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xx.nma.com was
another? (Each one of course could register whatever space they
needed for their own network, but really, would such a list be bigger
than *two* characters could deal with?)
Could you clarify this?
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;done in the
context of existing law??" Does that mean that it is legal, illegal,
extralegal? Is there any thing that is NOT "in the context of" existing law?
The man is simply playing with words.
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So, you believe that big business should have two constituencies: one for
themselves, and one for their lawyers?
You mis-read him Michael. I believe he was comparing both drafts.
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to the other lists. This mechanism will be up
for the duration of this discussion. I didn't announce it before because it
has only recently passed testing (I wasn't sure it would work grin). I
believe this is called an "exploder" list.
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of the importance of this issue.
Thank God we have laws in this country.
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e the administrative portion of the name
(the TLD), in their suits? Is there some issue with trademark law that
requires them to do this? If there is no such requirement then why do it?
What is to be gained?
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I'm just tossing this to start things off. It addresses the fundamental
issue wrt trademarks. It is an insight that I think we can all agree with
at some level. Much of the disagreements between the two drafts
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