At 01:28 AM 3/11/99 -0500, Jonathan Zittrain wrote:
>That said, I very much supported cutting you off at the microphone after
>you'd (to be sure, just in my and some others' view, clearly not yours!)
>abused the privilege to speak at it. I'd like to explain why. The
>archives are all online at <http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/rcs/>, so
>others--at least those with the capacity to run the free Realplayer
>plugin--can see how it went for themselves and come to a view on it.
>view--for wanting to hasten that day. I don't see why your agenda, and
>your willingness to stake out a position at a mic and not cede it to anyone
>else in line or elsewhere in a room, should trump everything else.
>In the meantime, we've been developing means of electronic
>participation--both tuning in to events at a physical meeting, and
>contributing comments to it--that don't expect internet users to have the
>latest and greatest PCs and fastest internet links.
>At 01:49 PM 3/10/99 , Ronda Hauben wrote:
>>"Bret A. Fausett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> responding:
>>>But that's not meant to undercut the point you make here, which is that
>>>ICANN (and the DNSO, the other SOs and the General Membership, for that
>>>matter) *must* make on-line participation a priority. In advance of the
>>>Berlin meeting, I would like to see further discussion about how to make
>>>real-time, remote participation a reality. Perhaps the people at the
>>>Berkman Center, who have been doing wonderful, experimental things with
>>>on-line classes and webcasting, could assist us in that effort. (The
>>>Singapore meeting was webcast, but we need to have a better way of moving
>>>information and questions in both directions.)
>>
>>I appreciate your agreeing that online participation is a priority.
>>
>>And I welcome the discussion on this. However, I don't have the
>>capabilty for real-time participation via webcasting etc.
For such an advocate of a government-run Internet, Ronda is woefully
lacking in key technology. She appears top be a techno-phobe and want
everyone to go back to the golden age of text-only UseNet. I bet she wishes
Web Browsers had never been developed.
>>And if the Internet community is to be involved there need to
>>be more discussion about how and in a way that people who have
>>minimal Internet connectivity can participate.
Minimal connectivity is considered to be a 9600 Kbps connection (lap-top
with a Cellular phone modem connection). Many V.90 modems are cheap ($20US
at the local computer store) and $20/month ISP personal/home (28.8 Kbps or
better) accounts are fairly normal (in the USA where Ronda lives). If she
dislikes Windows (like many folk I deal with), Linux has facilities to
support her access, on a host that can cost less than $600US, brand new
(That same host can also run WinNT/Win98 quite well, with sufficient RAM).
That Ronda chooses NOT to make the minimal personal investment for her
advocacy position and would rather do so with someone else's resources,
does NOT speak well for her position.
To be an advocate, for anything, takes a commitment that is beyond the
norm. The Internet has reduced the cost for this advocacy substantially.
But, it is still extant. One can not advocate with out some additional
effort. To deny this extra commitment effort, is to deny the very cause
that is being advocated.
>>That takes work and effort, *not* easy solutions that only allow
>>those with expensive technology to be involved.
The cost of the tech is minimal and dropping rapidly. Anyone with a PC and
a modem connection can participate.
>>They supported cutting me off from the microphone when I was
>>trying to say that the agreement among people online is that
>>they are online "to communicate". But that isn't the agreement
>>of the Berkman Center or the White Paper or the Green Paper.
>>
>>These are narrowly cast in the objective to support e-commerce,
>>thus substituting the narrow particular objective of a small
>>set of users with the broader generic objective of all
>>Internet users.
This same complaint could be directed to Ronda.
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