[WSG] Standards War - HTML 5 vs XHTML 2.0

2007-01-27 Thread Paul Ross
I was there at the WSG Sydney meeting last Thursday and was very interested to hear Lachlan Hunt (the tallest WSG member according to Russ) talking about the Future of HTML. Here's where I have to admit I must have been living under a stone for a while because I'd never heard of HTML 5 until that

Re: [WSG] Standards War - HTML 5 vs XHTML 2.0

2007-01-27 Thread Vladislav Gorodetskiy
Well, there is a big difference between XHTML HTML, so, I think both XHTML 2.0 and HTML 5 will be widely used. Personally, I don't think that W3C will make something like 'standards war'... 2007/1/27, Paul Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I was there at the WSG Sydney meeting last Thursday and was

Re: [WSG] Standards War - HTML 5 vs XHTML 2.0

2007-01-27 Thread David Dorward
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 08:09:40PM +1100, Paul Ross wrote: What I don't get is the HTML 5 (Web Applications 1.0) seems to be a competing standard to those proposed by the W3C. A couple of useful bits of reading are: http://whatwg.org/ (the very last section on the homepage) and

Re: [WSG] Safari - Drop down menu over a flash movie

2007-01-27 Thread al morris
Hi Mick, Two things you might want to test: Using z-index to make sure the menu is above the flash movie. Using background images on the menu with the fast rolloverhttp://wellstyled.com/css-nopreload-rollovers.htmltechique to avoid image flicker in IE. Al On 1/27/07, Micky Hulse [EMAIL

Re: [WSG] Standards War - HTML 5 vs XHTML 2.0

2007-01-27 Thread liorean
On 1/27/07, Paul Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this a fork in the specs road or a standards war in the making? It would be great to bounce this off the WSG cogniscienti and help me (and maybe others?) get a grasp of what is going on here. W3C went too far in their ambitions with XHTML2.

Re: [WSG] Standards War - HTML 5 vs XHTML 2.0

2007-01-27 Thread Vladislav Gorodetskiy
Nice writeup David. I realize that W3C have big plans but both XHTML2 and HTML5 but they're 'working drafts' for more than 5 years... Personally, I think if HTML5 will be released in 3-4 years it will be very good. As for XHTML2 I think it'll take more than 5 years more... It makes me mad...

[WSG] IE layout problem

2007-01-27 Thread Vladislav Gorodetskiy
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Re: [WSG] IE layout problem

2007-01-27 Thread Dwain Alford
can you float the table without the main div? are you using the table for layout inside the main div or does it have tabular data? a url would be most helpful. dwain On 1/27/07, Vladislav Gorodetskiy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, My layout is : _ |

Re: [WSG] Standards War - HTML 5 vs XHTML 2.0

2007-01-27 Thread Duncan Stigwood
What impact does this have on people who have just made the transistion to xHTML 1 like me? I'm an avid supporter of the web standards and have been guiding many in the ways of xHTML and validating... but it seems the issue is becoming ever more complicated, rather than clearer, as time goes by.

Re: [WSG] Standards War - HTML 5 vs XHTML 2.0

2007-01-27 Thread Christian Montoya
On 1/27/07, Duncan Stigwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What impact does this have on people who have just made the transistion to xHTML 1 like me? I'm an avid supporter of the web standards and have been guiding many in the ways of xHTML and validating... but it seems the issue is becoming ever

Re: [WSG] IE layout problem

2007-01-27 Thread Christian Montoya
On 1/27/07, Vladislav Gorodetskiy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, My layout is : _ || || || || | sidebar | | main | ||

Re: [WSG] Standards War - HTML 5 vs XHTML 2.0

2007-01-27 Thread David Dorward
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 03:30:46PM +, Duncan Stigwood wrote: What impact does this have on people who have just made the transistion to xHTML 1 like me? Not a lot. XHTML 1 is pretty pointless for authoring webpages in[1] (its more useful for other things such as ATOM documents), and

[WSG] text/background color disappering in IE 7

2007-01-27 Thread Tee G. Peng
In this page: http://project.lotusseedsdesign.com/sh-all/bookmarks_listview.html the below lines of texts and background colors are disappearing in IE7: rsf1977 posted 1 hour ago at 09:52 PM PST on Jan 23, 2007 {background: #ff9899; } mamepyon originally posted 3 months ago at 10:33 AM PDT

Re: [WSG] Art and accessibility

2007-01-27 Thread Katrina
Jermayn Parker wrote: I read this discussion and I think it's strange. The universitys and tafes are usually taught by lecturers who have no formal understanding or knowledge themselves about web standards etc. But there are many practitioners out there doing fantastic things without formal