Thank you, Ed, for giving this recording.
Of course it is much easier to play Weiss (or baroque lute music in general) if
you have a guitar with additional basses.
A normal guitar has it restrictions, but anyway Weiss stays beautiful music
even on such an instrument.
I've begun to play Weiss
I've always been a heretic in lute-matters, but am quite happy playing Weiss
on a guitar tuned to D-minor while octavating the basses. Perfectly viable.
Also, the 11 string guitar is by no means a new invention. The swedish
guitarbuilder Bolin was making his Altguitars already in the 60's.
At 5:14 PM -0400 4/6/05, James A Stimson wrote:
Just for the record, Ronn McFarlane has performed entire concerts from
memory. This has sometimes included some of his own compositions -- which
of course is an entirely different thing regarding memorization
How so?
Dear Ed:
Well, that's a
Yes, it is supposed to be, but it seems we have become sidetracked talking
about guitars John Williams.
Let's change the subject. 2 weeks ago, in Minnesota, we were treated to a
concert by Nigel North. It was an astonishing performance, all English
music. I can say that there were no weak
I have no problem eating cheese, only listening to it.
Michael Thames
But you listen to JWilliams, don't you?
RT
We have a saying in the old country... An intelligent man can
never win a debate with an idiot, the idiot will always win so I now
concede to you, and admit JW is not a
my old latin teacher had a saying, 'tis better to remain silent and
thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt. ~~
robert
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From: Michael Thames [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'LUTE-LIST' lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; Francesco Tribioli
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Roman Turovsky
In the past, the guitar owed much to the lute, However today the lute
owes much to the guitar.
Michael Thames
www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com
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From: Edward Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: G.R. Crona [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005
As someone with a B.Mus, M. Music and a bit of Doctoral work in
Classical Guitar Performance, I guess that I still don't truely
understand music because I really do like JW's playing. He played here
in Seattle on tuesday and below is a review of that conceret that also
refects on why I enjoy
Brian,
Thanks for sharing that. The same sentiment was felt by most others I've
spoken with. Except Michelangelo
Michael Thames
www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com
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From: Brian and Ann Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 10:20
BTW, who is it that is inventing a lute player that never existed
by building up a web presence about him? I'm sorry, I don't remember the
exact name of either the supposed historical figure or that of the
person guilty of starting this fraudulent reference.
Brian (long time list
Preferably off list, esp. if negative.
Anybody hear/see/play instruments by any of these makers?
Jiri Cepelak (Czech Rep.)
Szymon Gasienica (Poland)
Gyorgy Lorinczi (Hungary)
(Sorry, my e-mail client doesn't readily or easily support diacritics, so
no carons, hooks, length marks, or
I have two remarks on the Baroque lute to guitar transcriptions:
-One big problem is the sound of the basses on the guitar that are
relatively dull when compared to the lute. This is aggravated by the
fact that lute music naturally makes of the richness of its bass
register. So is it a good
exactly my point! Thanks for that, Alain!
Thomas
Am Donnerstag, 7. April 2005 19:30 schrieb Alain Veylit:
I have two remarks on the Baroque lute to guitar transcriptions:
-One big problem is the sound of the basses on the guitar that are
relatively dull when compared to the lute. This is
Of Course,
but you can't deny the availability of accessing Weiss in an easy way, my way ;)
On Apr 7, 2005 7:38 PM, Thomas Schall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
exactly my point! Thanks for that, Alain!
Thomas
Am Donnerstag, 7. April 2005 19:30 schrieb Alain Veylit:
I have two remarks on the
Two: lute music relies mostly on first positions, whereas the guitar
not only allows for high position fingerings but often sounds best in
the higher positions.
Does lute music mostly rely on first positions??
Come on
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-Two: lute music relies mostly on first positions, whereas the guitar
not only allows for high position fingerings but often sounds best in
the higher positions.
Because of those two points, I personally tend to think that the best
arrangements of Weiss's music on the guitar would involve
Does lute music mostly rely on first positions??
Come on
In Weiss this is true, but maybe not Bach, or other transcriptions.
Michael Thames
www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com
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From: G.R. Crona [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Thursday, April 07,
Hi all,
I'm just returning from the Frankfurt musical fair.
I was there on invitation by Frank-Peter and Markus Dietrich, lute and guitar
builders from the Vogtland in germany.
This time they haven't had any lute with them but a baroque mandolin and a
very nice Panormo copy which caught my
I agree - It's difficult to find a lute player who didn't begin with the
guitar. (Gateway drug?)
On 4/7/05 12:07 PM, Michael Thames [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In the past, the guitar owed much to the lute, However today the lute
owes much to the guitar.
Michael Thames
Thank you for the review, Thomas. I know the Dietrich shop was producing
big, pseudo-anachronistic barockmandolinen that were highly idealized and
weren't really patterned after any extant instruments, but they since have
been building more faithful reproductions of later 18th-c. pieces from
I agree - It's difficult to find a lute player who didn't begin with the
guitar. (Gateway drug?)
Reminds me last Dec.11th Paul Odette did a master class at UNM. Out
of 8 performers ,I was the only lute player, the rest played guitars.
Actually, I was amazed at how well Paul, could belt out
I am playing lutes from the Dietrich workshop for fairly long and can confirm
that their early instruments are getting much better. In the meantime they
are on the level of international concert instruments.
The mandolin was freshly made by Markus Dietrich after a model in the
I know this is a lute list. But Frank Wallace _is_ a lutenist, although
this time he will play the guitar and sing.
His recital is called Father Said: kompositionen fuer vater und sohn
(music by Frank Wallace, Franz Schubert, J. C. Merz and others).
Date: Mo. 18th April, venue is Haus im Park in
Dear Wolfgang, Martyn and all,
on Wed, 6 Apr 2005, Wolfgang Wiehe wrote:
you=B4ll find these subjects in the 1584 fronimo facsimile on page
102ff.
=84tasti inaguali nel liuto nella viola and on page 106 tasti
aggiunti
di nuovo al liuto loro impertinentia.
Many thanks Wolfgang! Martyn,
In my eyes that isn't true for Weiss, but I should check that once again.
He uses every possible position and his fingering is very thoughtful.
Usually he therefore avoids unnecessary shifting of positions, so very often
notes are played in higher positions, although they could have been played
Ed Durbrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
references to blind lutenists who must have played from memory.
One wonders how many of them were blind as one commonly thinks of that; greatly
myopic, or otherwise sight-compromised. A good freind of mine is so
nearsighted
that he cant see an entire lines
Dear Martyn,
Evidence is certainly thin on the ground. However, there is an
important passage in Christopher Simpson's _Compendium_ about
players of the viol and theorbo using an extra fret for the first
fret, implying the use of some kind of meantone temperament.
Strictly speaking, of course,
Lynda Sayce never played guitar. Ditto yours truly.
RT
__
Roman M. Turovsky
http://polyhymnion.org/swv
I agree - It's difficult to find a lute player who didn't begin with the
guitar. (Gateway drug?)
On 4/7/05 12:07 PM, Michael Thames [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In the past,
If you are not a psychiatrist, stay away from idiots. They are too stupid
to pay a layman for his company.
Stanislaw J. Lec
BTW, who is it that is inventing a lute player that never existed
by building up a web presence about him? I'm sorry, I don't remember the
exact name of either the
To our lute friends in Switzerland, I will be bouncing between Zurich
and Geneva May 5-8. Any lute related activities or concerts during that
time?
Thanks
DS
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In my eyes that isn't true for Weiss, but I should check that once again.
He uses every possible position and his fingering is very thoughtful.
Usually he therefore avoids unnecessary shifting of positions, so very
often notes are played in higher positions, although they could have been
played
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