[LUTE] Re: Piccinini Questions

2007-12-26 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 03:28 PM 12/23/2007, David Tayler wrote: When getting an archlute, get one that can be either double or single strung, and have different divisions, e.g. 6+8, 7+7 8+6, etc. 8+6 is great for Bach (low F and F sharp; C and C sharp). 6+8 great for earlier repertory. More holes; less poles. After

[LUTE] Re: Froggy

2007-12-26 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
I agree, very nice! Thank you. Eugene At 11:10 AM 12/26/2007, Stephen Arndt wrote: David, Thank you for this wonderful Christmas gift! I love how you play with such a light and seemingly effortless touch. Stephen Arndt - Original Message - From: David Tayler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

[LUTE] Re: Piccinini question + nails

2007-12-26 Thread Anthony Hind
Martyn, Eugene, This latest Piccinini remark, reminds me of an earlier topic, Theorbo + Nails. While looking for Piccinini texts for Jim Abraham, I found the introduction to his lute tablatures, translated into French. It looks very much like Piccinini's instruction for the use of nails

[LUTE] Re: Breaking point of gut

2007-12-26 Thread Stephen Arndt
Anthony, Although I probably should have used a finer grade, I just used the finest grade I happened to have on hand, which was 600. I'm not sure how to answer the question about how much I sanded since I didn't count the strokes, but they were probably no more than twenty-five. I simply

[LUTE] Re: Breaking point of gut

2007-12-26 Thread Arthur Ness
Dentists have a special kind of dental floss with various degrees of gritiness (I don;'t know the term). Some seem to be coated with various strengths of sand like that used in sandpaper, others are still sharper and seem to be coated with pieces of metal (very sharp!). Ask your dentist for

[LUTE] Re: Breaking point of gut

2007-12-26 Thread Jelma van Amersfoort
Dear all Stewart-MacDonald sell 'abrasive cord' to 'smooth your string notches': http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tools/Sanding_Tools_and_Supplies/Mitchell_Abrasive_Cord.html I maybe too rough for the purpose, I'm not sure, never used it. Jelma van Amersfoort On Dec 26, 2007 6:57 PM, Stephen

[LUTE] Re: Breaking point of gut

2007-12-26 Thread Jelma van Amersfoort
I meant to say, IT may be too rough for the purpose :-S Jelma van A. On Dec 26, 2007 5:10 PM, Jelma van Amersfoort [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all Stewart-MacDonald sell 'abrasive cord' to 'smooth your string notches':

[LUTE] Re: Breaking point of gut

2007-12-26 Thread Peter Nightingale
The stuff I once got from my dentist was not really what I would call floss; Arthur's quotation marks must have been stripped out to some NSA/CIA telephone filter. How about abrasive inter-dental strips? They are about 3 or 4 millimeters (1/6 of a dyno-inch) wide. I cannot imagine a single

[LUTE] Re: Breaking point of gut

2007-12-26 Thread Arthur Ness
I go to a large Boston dental firm with probably 12-15 dentists, plus hygenicists. The dentist just went to a supply closet (I guess) and came back with the samples. I gave them all away, but there was no trade mark identification on the samples. If that was the dentist. I'm not certain

[LUTE] Re: Breaking point of gut

2007-12-26 Thread Stephen Arndt
I called a few dentists here in town to ask about that kind of floss, and they had never even heard of it. When I did a Google advanced search using dental floss and sand, I couldn't find where to purchase it either. It would be helpful if we had a source for ordering it. Stephen -

[LUTE] Re: Breaking point of gut

2007-12-26 Thread Arthur Ness
The samples I was given (ten years ago) came in various densities from what seemed to be very fine, to one that had those bit of metal and seemed to be very sharp. I'll keep trying. ==AJN (Boston, Mass.) This week's free download from Classical Music Library is Tchaikovsky's The Seasons, Op.

[LUTE] Re: Breaking point of gut

2007-12-26 Thread Arthur Ness
That sounds like it. I used the term floss because the abrasive was coated on strings, and indeed is used between the teeth like floss. The denitst who gave me the samples knew immediately what I was talking about. ==AJN (Boston, Mass.) This week's free download from Classical Music Library is

[LUTE] Re: Breaking point of gut

2007-12-26 Thread Anthony Hind
Stephen That is remarkable with a 70 cm string length and at 415Hz. I thought it would need to be at 392Hz, and then only to last about a week. Do you think the sy-trings gradually roughen the edges of the groove, or was there a problem from the beginning? Do you use graphite to help

[LUTE] Re: Piccinini Questions

2007-12-26 Thread Daniel Winheld
That's because Bach didn't have the same hands-on exactness for idiosyncratic playability that Piccinini Weiss had with lutes. He hit an approximate range, texture, and either figured a real lute player could work it out, or he really composed (at least some of it) for his Lautenwork (sp?)

[LUTE] Re: Breaking point of gut

2007-12-26 Thread Stephen Arndt
Anthony, I had a Savarez KF on it originally and then a Nylgut and don't know enough to speculate as to whether they roughen the edges of the groove or not. I only know that I broke several gut strings in a row when I first tried gut and never had one make it an entire week before I sanded

[LUTE] Re: Breaking point of gut

2007-12-26 Thread Daniel Winheld
Very interesting thread. Leads me to believe that variable batches of gut may be causing more disagreement/varying experiences than other factors, especially once the nut business is addressed. My Renaissance 7-course, at 62 cm, should be a no-brainer (no gut-strainer?) for a g, w/a at 415.

[LUTE] Re: Piccinini Questions

2007-12-26 Thread Daniel Winheld
And speaking from experience- I have an ancient Bob Lundberg original 13 course bass rider Baroque lute. Wanting to play Piccinini specifically and explore the archlute/Italian Baroque lute generally, I re-strung tuned the Lundberg. Very, very clumsy and ineffective for that repertoire.

[LUTE] Re: Breaking point of gut

2007-12-26 Thread Anthony Hind
Dan MP had some really strong top gut strings, strong as nylon. He seems to think they will soon be back again, meanwhile some people use Purr'l Gut banjo strings, for the top. I don't know how strong they are, but they come quite cheap, and so it is not so bad breaking them.

[LUTE] Re: Breaking point of gut

2007-12-26 Thread Anthony Hind
Dan I have never tried them, but some seem to like them. Kurschner are said to be quite strong, but some don't like the feel, or sound. Anthony Le 26 déc. 07 à 22:13, Stephen Arndt a écrit : Dan and Anthony, The Purr'l Gut banjo strings are not bad, but personally I don't think they

[LUTE] Re: Breaking point of gut

2007-12-26 Thread Stephen Arndt
Dan and Anthony, The Purr'l Gut banjo strings are not bad, but personally I don't think they sound quite as good as the others I have tried (Aquila and Gamut). But if you want something inexpensive for everyday use, they might work for you. Stephen - Original Message - From:

[LUTE] Re: Sad News(was Breaking point of gut)

2007-12-26 Thread Daniel Winheld
Sad music- Tombeau sur la mort de ma chanterelle d'mon coeur, arrive le 26 de Decembre, 2007 -to be played only on the lower 10 courses of a French Baroque lute. In e-flat minor, of course. I just opened my lute case to discover that my top string, which had lasted 31 days, had broken. Since

[LUTE] Re: Slipping pegs

2007-12-26 Thread Christopher Stetson
Louis Aull [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/24/2007 9:04 am John et al. I trained a while with an old school violin maker. We would put the dried soap (old bar of Zest) on the peg, roll it in the hole to deposit the soap in the hole as well, and then us a a piece of blackboard chalk to write a bit of

[LUTE] Re: Breaking point of gut

2007-12-26 Thread Leonard Williams
When ordering Purr'll Gut from Sierra View (gourdbanjo.com), specify the 1.5 meter lengths. They are the same price and give you two trebles for the price of one (on my 59 cm lute). Regards, Leonard Williams On 12/26/07 2:09 PM, Anthony Hind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan MP had some

[LUTE] Re: Sad News(was Breaking point of gut)

2007-12-26 Thread Stephen Arndt
C'est le tombeau le plus triste sur un événement encore plus triste. Hélas! - Original Message - From: Edward Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Daniel Winheld [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 2:56 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Sad News(was Breaking

[LUTE] Re: Sad News(was Breaking point of gut)

2007-12-26 Thread Edward Martin
Very clever! ed At 12:05 PM 12/26/2007 -0800, Daniel Winheld wrote: Sad music- Tombeau sur la mort de ma chanterelle d'mon coeur, arrive le 26 de Decembre, 2007 -to be played only on the lower 10 courses of a French Baroque lute. In e-flat minor, of course. I just opened my lute case to

[LUTE] Re: Doubling The Parts?

2007-12-26 Thread demery
On Mon, Dec 24, 2007, Gary Digman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Timbre is an element of musical expression as well as pitch. Why does a composer have an oboe and a violin or a bassoon and a trombone play the same part? Because the timbre of the combined sound is different than each separately. Gary