[LUTE] help on tuning

2013-10-10 Thread Tom
I posted this to the lutening group but thought it wouldn't hurt to try here, also. Hello everyone, I have what is probably a newbie question. I am unable to tune the 5th, 6th, and to a lesser degree the 7th and 8th courses to my satisfaction. When tuned so that the octaves

[LUTE] Re: help on tuning

2013-10-10 Thread David van Ooijen
Tom First a return question: what is you string material, brand, diameters ('numbers' for some brands)/tenison and last but certainly not least, age? All these factors play a role. If strings are old, replace and you'll feel better. If strings are gut, you might have a tough time

[LUTE] Re: help on tuning

2013-10-10 Thread William Samson
Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android __ From: William Samson willsam...@yahoo.co.uk; To: Tom tgw...@gmail.com; Subject: Re: [LUTE] help on tuning Sent: Thu, Oct 10, 2013 6:53:37 AM It sounds like your octaves

[LUTE] Re: help on tuning

2013-10-10 Thread John Collingwood
Hi Tom Sounds like it could be a problem with the grooves in the nut. If the octave string is set too high relative to the fundamental, it will need that much extra tension to be pressed down onto the fret, with the obvious tuning discrepancy that you describe. It is complicated

[LUTE] Re;: help on tuning

2013-10-10 Thread Tom
Thanks for the suggestions. Here is the info David asked me to include: The strings are about a week old NNG52 - 8 course lute 5th octave c' NNG100 - 8 course lute 5th c NNG68 - 8 course lute 6th octave g KFG121 - 8 course lute 6th G NNG76 - 8 course lute 7th octave f

[LUTE] Re: Re;: help on tuning

2013-10-10 Thread David van Ooijen
Tom An earlier poster already suggested your octaves might be higher in tension than your fundamentals. This was a good guess. Course 5 you have 28N (2.8kg if you prefer) for your octav and 25N for your fundamental. Courses 6 to 8 are around 25N for the octaves and around 20N for

[LUTE] Re: Juxtaposition

2013-10-10 Thread Monica Hall
Thank you for posting these. I enjoyed listening to both of them. I am not sure that there is any point in people saying which they prefer because personal tastes differ today and probably did in the 17th century. De gustibus non disputandum. I will venture to say that the passage work and

[LUTE] Re: help on tuning

2013-10-10 Thread Tom
David, I forgot to mention the lute is 63 cm. Thanks for your suggestions. I have had Chris at [1]catlines.com help calculate the tensions, but as I've only had a lute for 3 months, the tension is a bit of a mystery at this time. -- Sincerely, Tom -- References 1.

[LUTE] Re: Re;: help on tuning

2013-10-10 Thread Dan Winheld
Tom - I have a very similar set-up, and I can assure you that for long-distance, non-hands on stringing help Chris Hendriksen is the best; (I have used him for decades) but in the end each individual has to make the final tweaks adjustments that work- and they may be a little off from any

[LUTE] intavolations 45

2013-10-10 Thread Anton Höger
Hi, there are new Lute Intavolations on IMSLP! http://lute-ensemble-tabulatures.npage.de/ There are, how promised, new FRONIMO layout versions! ===It is recommended to use these new versions!!!== ---2 Sopranos and 2 g-Lutes new fronimo layout: Vecchi,

[LUTE] Re: Capo use on early instruments

2013-10-10 Thread tom
Hello All, and thanks for this discussion. I have an 8 course Renaissance lute which I recently used to play and record a piece a whole step higher. Instead of arduously fingered transposing, I strapped a nickel-silver section of a candle holder across the fingerboard at the 2nd fret with