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What pitch were you tuning the Oud at? Turkish Ouds are not tuned at the
same pitch as North African Ouds.. they are tuned higher..
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[image: Images
Colin Everett in Ottawa, had designed an array of travel lutes, that
never really got off the ground in popularity. They were flat back,
rectangular, no peghead, where as your pegs for tuning were on the
bridge side, on the end block. He took them to the lute society
seminars at some point and
a video on Colin, which includes demonstration of his travel lute..
can be found here:
http://vimeo.com/29128621
maybe some luthier can pick up on the idea...
Bruno
2014-03-06 9:55 GMT-05:00 Bruno Fournier br...@estavel.org:
Colin Everett in Ottawa, had designed an array of travel lutes
do wonder…
Edward Chrysogonus Yong
edward.y...@gmail.com
On 6 Mar, 2014, at 10:55 PM, Bruno Fournier br...@estavel.org wrote:
Colin Everett in Ottawa, had designed an array of travel lutes, that
never really got off the ground in popularity. They were flat back,
rectangular, no peghead
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I replied to Wayne directly, but I'll share what I replied:
Bag luthiers, see link below, makes soft backpack cases for lutes and
theorbos..
Hi Wayne,
I have a backpack softcase
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From: Bruno Fournier br...@estavel.org
Date: 2014-03-05 16:05 GMT-05:00
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: backpacks for lutes?
To: Dan Winheld dwinh...@lmi.net
Cc: wayne cripps w...@cs.dartmouth.edu, lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
I replied to Wayne directly, but I'll share
dear collective wisdom,
I am thinking of stringing my Colin Everette small archlute as a
tiorbino. As some of you might know, Colin built many renaissance
lutes on the tiorbino model, with 13 or 14 courses but was stringing
it as regular Renaissance tuning with the diapasons in the same
directly, so it didn't go through the robot.
W
On Feb 25, 2014, at 2:38 PM, Bruno Fournier br...@estavel.org wrote:
this is a test to see if I still get strange characters
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2014-02-25 14:18 GMT-05:00 Wayne Cripps w...@cs.dartmouth.edu:
Hi lute people
Hello Herbert,
A
I have been using gut strings for the past 30 years on my lutes,
although I do not use them for all strings, for various reasons.A A
lot of it is trial and error unfortunately...
A
there area a lot of things to consider when using gut strings: string
Hi,
A
I haven't travelled with my Renaissance lute inA a long time, and the
old days I used to be able to take it as carry on luggage.A However, I
have travelled to France as recently as 2 years ago with my Morrocan
Oud in a well padded softcase, and had no issues for carry
Hello,
A
Not sure this will arrive in text form, it seems Wayne's server doesnt
recognize accents and HTML emails.A I tried from my phone and all you
received was HTML code.
A
Anyway, this gentleman, Lino Messina on the French lutenet, is looking
for a Theorbo to rent
Hello
A
on this subject , let me put my 2 cents worth.A The fact of the matter
is that most people who go to these fairs, have no clue as to what the
Renaissance, or medieval periods are all about. I have beenA
performing at various venues for most of my adult life, and by
Hi Brad,
A
Robert Derome from University of Quebec has done quiteA a bit of
research on the lute in New France ( Quebec) in the 17th century.A you
might want to contact him.A I don't know if he's on this list.
A
Here is the webiste on Lute in New France:
A
sorry
Anton,
A
This is fantastic what you are doing, I wish I had the time to go
through all of the stuff you have posted.A Have you thought of doing
some late medieval pieces too? it would be interesting.
A
Bruno
2013/5/31 Anton HAP:ger [1]diwa-animat...@t-online.de
Bonjour Alain
A
il me semblait avoir un login pour ton site mais il semblerait que
non.. que doit on faire pour s'inscrire??
A
[1]http://musickshandmade.com/lute/
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A
Bruno Cognyl-Fournier
A
[2]www.estavel.org
A
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References
1.
I believe Dan Larson built two medieval lutes to be used on stage...
maybe I'm wrong..
A
Bruno
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Steve Ramey
[1]stevera...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
A A Wayne,
A A I loaned my early Paki lute to a local theater company a few
years
I don't believe I've ever seen lute arrangements of the Cantigas. Being
that they are monophonic, and all in either D, of F modes.they are
really easy to read single line without reverting to tablature.A They
all fit nicely on the first 4 courses of the lute.
A
I have the
Hello
A
As an Oud player as well as a renaissance lute player, I would not
recommend buying an Oud to play renaissance music.A It will sound
awful even if you putA frets, andA you won't be able to tune it up to G
( OudsA first strings are ususally no higher than D or CA --
and where can those pegs be bought? Being from the old school,with
lutes built in 1980, I haven't always followed up on the lates
innovations...
A
Bruno
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 7:26 AM, Miles Dempster
[1]miles.demps...@gmail.com wrote:
..now, if somebody could double
aoAt 12 A 03:17, Bruno Fournier a A(c)crit :
Hello
Anyone has an intabulation of Belle qui tient ma vie pavan? I need
for a gig in 2 days... last minute request.
quelqu'un aurait une tablature de Belle qui tien ma vie, j'en ai
besoin pour concert dans 2 jours, demandA(c
Hello
A
Anyone has an intabulation of Belle qui tient ma vie pavan? I need for
a gig in 2 days... last minute request.
A
quelqu'un aurait une tablature de Belle qui tien ma vie, j'en ai besoin
pour concert dans 2 jours, demandA(c) A la derniAre minute..
A
A
I would suggest you try and rent one from a local lutenist, or perhaps
check with the university music faculty if there would be one available
on loan.
A
regards
A
Bruno Cognyl-Fournier
Montreal Canada
A
A
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:32 PM, William Samson
Anton,
A
I think the work you do is marvelous and a great teaching tool.A Too
much music in this world and not enough time to assimilate it all.A
With your intabulations it allows players of different levels to play
together.
A
BTW, have you ever thought of doing
Hello
A
If you haven't yet ordered a lute, I would consider an 8 course, which
in my opinion is more versatile.A It even allows you to cheat and play
10 course music...A
A
Bruno
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Braig, Eugene [1]brai...@osu.edu
wrote:
It's
Hi,
A
I'm interested in trying out Mimmo's Nylgut Oud strings on my Moroccan
Oud.A Anyone has experience with them? I note that like all Oud string
sets, the 3 rd string is wound.A I personally prefer a non-wound
string on the 3rd course.A I currently use gut on my first 3
Hello fellow lutenetters,
A
a gentleman from Boston area contacted me to rent or buy a lute.A I
personally have nothing available for him.A Anyone in the Boston area
able to help out this person?
A
see message below
A
Bruno Cognyl-Fournier
A
A
Have always used wet heat.
A
wouldn't regluing after be a problem? as there might be remnants of the
alcohol preventing the glue from binding properly?
A
Bruno
A
A
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 12:06 PM, William Samson
[1]willsam...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
A I use
Frankly I don't see the point of the exercise.A Simply to get double
strings and learn lute technique?A
A
Bruno
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 6:33 AM, David van Ooijen
[1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you for your answer, Eugene, but what my friend has in mind is
A
anyone ever met this guy?
A
[1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3qGxpT5rug
A
A
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A
Bruno Cognyl-Fournier
A
[2]www.estavel.org
A
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References
1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3qGxpT5rug
2. http://www.estavel.org/
To get on or off
It would normally have an end cap. For my own lute, I drilled a hole
and inserted an acousticA guitar pin ( the ones that hold the strings
onto the bridge )
A
Bruno
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 6:31 PM, William Samson
[1]willsam...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
A Hi Ned,
A Yes
I personally like the sound of octaves starting on the 5th course and
going down.A I have always found the 4th in octaves to be difficult at
tuning.A On my soprano lute 6 course however, I use unisons.
A
Bruno
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Anthony Hind
Atlthough off topic, sad day for early music today, Monserat Figueras
passed away.
A
Bruno Cognyl-Fournier
Montreal
A
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Edward Mast [1]nedma...@aol.com
wrote:
Said, I trust, with tongue firmly in cheek . . .
On Nov 23, 2011, at
Dear lutenetters of America,
A
I have found out throught the french lutenet, that gut strings are
still being made in Morocco:
A
[1]http://www.pure-corde.com/en
A
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A
Bruno Cognyl-Fournier
A
[2]www.estavel.org
A
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References
1.
Just as side note to this,A the ban appears to be European and not
just Italian.A Mad cow disease in europe led to this ban, which
ultimately led to the closing of SOFRACOB.A The ban appears to have
been lifted in certain instances, such as for sausage casing in France.
Obviously
Hi All,A
One thing for sure, when I spoke to the Sofracob owner last year before
he closed, he mentioned that one of the main reasons and problems, was
the mad cow disease issues in France over the last few years, and that
it was becoming more and more difficult to obtain gut. A So
luckily I bought a supply of gut strings and fret gut from Sofracob,
just as they closed, to last me the rest of my lifeor at least my
playing life I am 53.
A
good luck to everyone in finding affordable gut.A Maybe the chinese
will come up with something,A I'm sure
I've always managed to order directly from Savarez.A In Canada there
are no representatives for Savarez lute strings, just guitar, so
they've always accepted to sell directly to me.
A
A
Bruno
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Martin Shepherd
[1]mar...@luteshop.co.uk
David,
A
There is no such thing as medieval music specifically written for the
lute.A All music in the various periods of medieval music, is vocal.
There were no publications since the printing press was invented in the
1500's.A It's all manuscripts.A Some music is
Hello ALL,
A
Much has been discussed in the past on this list and on the medieval
lute list on whether medieval lutes had frets or not.A There is a
common misconception that lutes must have had no frets since the modern
day oud has none either.A A In fact nothing seems to be
Hello all,
A
I have some sad news to announce.A Some of you in the LSA, will surely
remember Colin Everett, luthier and lutenist from Ottawa.A Colin
passed away last night after a 2 year battle with MSA ( muti systemic
atrophy).A Colin was amongst the lute pioneers of the
In my opinion no self respecting Luthier should take 8 months to repair
a cracked soundboard and cracked rib.A Unless the extent the crack is
disastrous, they are relatively simple to repair, even if they have to
remove the top.A
A
Bruno
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 8:19 AM,
Here weA go again with this debate.A I play lute and Oud A in a
medieval ensemble , [1]www.estavel.org.A A I must say, that I like the
sound of the Oud when playing Cantigas or Livre Vermeil stuff, however
I move to a fretted luted for later stuff, Dufay, Landini, etc.
A
I
I probably haveA them in myA AirsA de CoursA anthology, I have to
check
A
Bruno
Montreal, Canada
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Jeffrey Noonan
[1]jjnoo...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
A A vocal student here at the university just asked for help
locating a
A
Ed,A is that not the version you sent me years ago in Tab for Soprano
lute?
A
Bruno
A
Happy New year...
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Fabio Rizza [1]fabio_ri...@alice.it
wrote:
Il 03/01/2011 18:15, [2]...@heartistrymusic.com ha scritto:
I have heard many
Sorry I missed this threadA ( no pun intended)A Would you explain how
you splice wound strings? I have some expensive copper wound Savarez
strings for my basses on my liuto attiorbato, and the wire typically
gets broken just before the nut when I tunehence giving me a rather
Hello
A
Someone announced on the french lute list, that James Tyler passed
away.A I don't know if the American lute list was made aware of
this.A
A
Bruno Cognyl-Fournier
Montreal, Canada
--
To get on or off this list see list information at
Certainly will be missed, I still have my old LP's of him and Anthony
Rooley playing.A He was amongst the first in the line of lute
revivalists and I certainly would probably have never played lute if I
hadn't listened to his records amongst others of that period.A He
apparently
I use the Square knot, but I thinkA the Sheet Bend knot wiould be
better.
A
[1]http://www.woodburyscouts.org/troop480/images/knots.gif
A
Bruno
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Anthony Hind
[2]agno3ph...@yahoo.com wrote:
A Dear All
A A A A A I may need
I'm looking for some easy arrangements for christmas music for
chitarrone with re-entrant tuning.A anyone has transcribed some
stuff?A I'm new at playing in re-entrant tuning, have been playing
Renaissance lute for 30 some years and recently convertedA my 10 course
into a 13
I personnally am getting tired of all this theatrical way of doing
baroque music, and the Latin american style of strumming used.A Don't
get me wrong, I love strumming, but I prefer to hear it in Latin
american music.
A
Bruno Cognyl-Fournier
A
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010
yes it's a bit of a circus isn't it.A A I just wonder where we can
draw the lineA I've even stopped putting on medieval costumes for
my medieval gigs..
A
Bruno
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Monica Hall [1]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk
wrote:
This is much the same
I'm a bit sceptic about the technique of striking the strings on the
fingerboard with the right hand.A Is there any proof that this
technique was used in the baroque period?
A
Bruno
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 7:05 AM, Anton Birula [1]image...@yahoo.com
wrote:
, which is may be a pity:))
--- On Thu, 7/22/10, Bruno Fournier [2]br...@estavel.org wrote:
From: Bruno Fournier [3]br...@estavel.org
Subject: [LUTE] Re: some more LUTEDUO links on youtube:
To: Anton Birula [4]image...@yahoo.com
Cc: Lutenet [5]l...@cs.dartmouth.edu, Burris
I usually use my old broken gut strings
A
you can use a nylon fret in the meantime.
A
Bruno
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Graham Freeman
[1]freeman.gra...@gmail.com wrote:
A All,
A Has anyone ever used anything other than fret gut to replace a
Hello to all,
A
If rapid share is a problem, why not put it on a GMAIL account that is
shared by all users, or if you wish, I can host it for free on my web
server at [1]www.estavel.org
A
I can set up an FTP account for you to upload and make the links
available through
Hello to all, bonjour A tous,
A
SOFRACOB is closing its operations at the end of February.A This is a
great loss to theA early music world.
A
SOFRACOB ferme ses portes dA(c)finitivement A la fin fA(c)vrier.A
Ceci est une grande perte pour le monde de la musique
good luck getting the instrument many times over this luthier has
been discussed on the list.A He takes forever to finish the
instrumentsA ( 3 years...) hard to reach, never answers his emails,
apparently he lives in a remote village in Brazil and has difficulty
getting to
I was about to say the same thing.A Certainly not a theorbo, and the
neckA looks like it had a serious alignment problem with the body of
the lute
A
Bruno
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 7:32 AM, Monica Hall [1]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk
wrote:
Well - he's not playing a
I saw him too.A How many lute players can there be in Estonia??
A
Bruno
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 1:18 PM, morgan cornwall
[1]mcornw...@ns.sympatico.ca wrote:
I can't comment on who was on Amazing Race, but I do have the CD by
Rondellus entitled Sabbatum, where they
Would that lute happen to be in AndrA(c) Bissonet's antique musical
instrument shop on 6 rue du Pas de la Mule near place des Vosges?
A
He has several interesting instruments, notably romantic guitars and
hurdy gurdies.
A
Bruno Cognyl-Fournier
A
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009
which is?
A
Bruno
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 4:29 AM, JAP:rg Hilbert
[1]hilbert.jo...@t-online.de wrote:
Very impressing!
But it also demonstrates the basic problem of the classical guitar
nowadays.
Am 22.10.2009 um 05:22 schrieb Daniel F Heiman:
Hello,
A
I can't believe your question.A That's the most ridiculous thinking.
A
With your thinking, then why are paintings so expensive? is it
materials? is it labour?A A What about a Mercedes Benz versus a
Hyundai made in Korea? is that labour? is that materials? is
I don't think you've understood the problem at hear.A It is not about
the material, and BTW carbon fiber lute was done as an experiment by
Charles Besnainou in France back in the 80's:A
[1]http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://www.josephcurtinstudios
Never mind all that, a baroque wooden transverse flute from a reputable
make can go easily for more than 2000$.A But anyone can learn how to
play regular transverse flute on a cheap 500$ yamaha flute. Thatty
won't make you a baroque flute player but can be an introduction.A The
21.5 cm sounds a bit short for an A lute and a bit too long for a
Soprano lute in D.A Not sure what you have there Andrew. As Ken said,
if its 21.5 inches, then its a good length for an A lute. You might be
able to get away with tuning it in G at that string length, but it
won't
What is this bullshit???
A
Bruno
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Mustafa Umut Sarac
[1]mustafaumutsa...@gmail.com wrote:
A Hello ,
A I am an luthier , archaeologist and inventor from Istanbul -
Republic
A of Turkey who is interested in solving slow
Hello all,
A
I had considered getting a medieval lute from him but had
reservations.A First because he took over 3 months to respond to my
initial email, then because of the distance and the risks associated
with transportation.A
A
LauraA Maschi in Argentina might have
I agree with Rob, once you play guitar and lute, everything else
becomes pretty easy; venezuelan cuatro, ukulele, bouzouki, banjo,
etc I also find the same with winds, once you play a couple of
flutes, all other wind instruments have fingerings that are about the
same and you
La bella lute strings...wow that brings back nightmares from the 70's
incidentally they are still available:
[1]http://www.juststrings.com/labellalute.html
Bruno Cognyl-Fournier
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 7:38 PM, howard posner
[2]howardpos...@ca.rr.com wrote:
On Jan
this all left hand right hand stuff is all hogwash in my opinion. Left
Handed Piano? why bother? on the assumption that the weakest hand plays
the basses? didn't Ravel write a Piano concerto for the left hand
only? As Miles said, instruments that require two hands should be
Might sound a little bit better if the charango was in tune.
--
Bruno Cognyl-Fournier
Luthiste, etc
Estavel
Ensemble de musique ancienne
[1]www.estavel.org
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 7:59 AM, jean-michel Catherinot
[2]jeanmichel.catheri...@yahoo.com wrote:
Yep I think this calls for a CD of lute duets and songs with Sting.
Bruno
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 6:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Last year FIngerstyle Guitar Magazine #61 had an interview with
Blackmore as well as two arrangements. I don't remember if they
were
Can anyone give me the address of Pyramid and any other string supplier that
would have strings in lengths of 120 cm or more. I have just finished
modifying one of my old lutes into a small theorbized lute (tiorbino) but
not small enough to accept my standard wound strings.
thx
--
Bruno
Anyone have information on Giorgy Lorinczi, lute builder in Romania. He is
offering me a 5 course medieval lute at 1000 Euros.
Quelqu'un a des renseignements sur le luthier Girgy Lorinczi? il m'offre un
lute médiéval à 1000 Euros.
thx
--
Bruno Cognyl-Fournier
Luthiste, etc
Estavel
I may have it, I will look...
Bruno
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Stewart McCoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear Jean-Marie,
There is an article by Colin Slim in _Early Music_ on this subject. I
can provide details if need be.
Best wishes,
Stewart McCoy.
-Original Message-
Hi,
He replied to me after several weeks, just recently, I was inquiring about a
medieval lute, but his advertised prices on the Web are way lower than what
they really are...so I am still debating if I will order a medieval lute
from him. There is less advantage for me to look a for a lute so
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Joseph Mayes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
..and I have been wasting all this time twisting those darn pegs.
On 3/13/08 8:34 AM, Lindberg Richard-MGIA0539 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Yuch!
-Original Message-
From: Rob MacKillop [mailto:[EMAIL
Hello all lutenetters,
I do not often post, although I have been following the lutelist for many
years. As some of you know, I have been playing renaissance lute for over
30 years. The last time I had a lute made for me was back in 1981,and
although I've had to modify it with the ages to make
Thx for replying,
Well I never liked that 10 course, so I said what the heck, lets try
something else with that. Unfortunately I was limited to the original
59 cm on the fingerboard without undergoing major surgery.
Yes I'm kind of tempted by the Tiorbino idea, I understand it is quite
an
Hello,
I have recently converted my 10 course Renaissance lute, into a small
13 course archlute. String length of first 6 couses ( doubled exept
for 1st) = 59 cm while the Single basses 7 through 13 are 101 cm. I
am looking for suggestions on how I should tune it and string
gauges...I plan to
In my case, its called getting old and myopic.If I dont have the
music or tablature at 2 arms length away from me, I see everything
double. Problem is that the stupid reading glasses they give you are
never made for being able to read from a music stand sitting a few
feet away from you and
Message-
From: Bruno Fournier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 3:59 PM
To: bill kilpatrick
Cc: Lute Net
Subject: [LUTE] Re: vertical dyslexia?
In my case, its called getting old and myopic.If I dont have the
music or tablature at 2 arms length away from me, I see
And how long have you been playing in Duluth now Ed? , frankly I think
the Minnesota ballet should be ashamed of not having heard this music
before Sting released it. Sting may have put Early music on the map
for the general population, but it still makes me sick to my stomach
that we have been
Hello all,
I myself have been playing lute for close to 25 years, but am not a
professional musician. I find that for my personal use, and the
occasional concerts that I give, a combination of Sofracob strings and
Savarez , works out best for me, both in an economical sense and a
practical one.
should we send the link to Sting? Of course it may not be half as
good as Sting's Album
Bruno
On 12/12/06, Edward Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just saw in at Amazon, but in Germany. It ought to be out soon in the USA.
ed
At 05:56 AM 12/12/2006 -0500, Daniel Shoskes wrote:
and Pat O'Brien I think,
but all of these people waited till they knew how to play the
instrument before they put out CD's
On 11/24/06, Bernd Haegemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
and Bailes :-)
- Original Message -
From: Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Lutelist
I definitely would prefer to hear Diana Krall, she has a wonderful
voice, and a jazzed up Dowland, would be at least more original than
an out of tune Sting take on it...
regards
Bruno
On 11/24/06, David Rastall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Nov 24, 2006, at 3:05 PM, Roman Turovsky wrote:
Oh,
So on top of that, Sting cannot even ENUNCIATE in his own language.
as for the awakening the sleeping interest we can all gain for, I am
confident the lute community, which includes me, does not need Sting
to awake the sleeping interest.I personally woke up in 1978, long
before any pop
This is getting more and more ridiculoushe should be ashamed of
presenting this to the world
regards
Bruno
On 11/22/06, Bernd Haegemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
some more stuff, don't know whether it was posted before ...
http://teledyski.onet.pl/10172,1713479,teledyski.html
best
what I think is that he really is full of himself. I used to like
Sting for the stuff he is good at. And I guess I still like him,
however I find it appalling and inconsiderate for the people who have
been playing this music for years (like myself) and have been outdone
by someone who simply has
I would not mind doing the conversion, could be an interesting
project. Are they all available on your site Roman? Are the sources
documented too?
am always interested in discovering new music.
Bruno
www.estavel.org
On 11/4/06, Michal Gondko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But the truth is that most
nope don't work here
anyone having the problem ?
will try from work tomorow...
regards
On 10/19/06, Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would be interested but your links do not work, or rather they
freeze up both Firefox and Internet Explorer
can you check on this?
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