[LUTE] Re: This list is ending soon!

2020-09-30 Thread Arto Wikla
Big thanks Wayne Your list was great!! Arto On 30.9.2020 13.11, Wayne Cripps wrote: > Hi Lute People - > > The Dartmouth lute list is ending in less than three hours. I certainly > have learned a lot from all of you and I thank you all for taking part in it. > > Wayne > > > > > To get on

[LUTE] Re: [Lutelist] Purcell on the lute

2020-09-27 Thread Arto Wikla
And if you play continuo, it is not too complicated to play this piece directly from the score. Arto On 27.9.2020 12.52, Mathias Rösel wrote: >There's an edition of pieces by Purcell from Tree Edition for one >archlute. >Mathias >

[LUTE] Re: The lute list is retiring soon

2020-08-22 Thread Arto Wikla
Big thanks to you for your valuable work of decades!! Arto On 22.8.2020 22.04, Wayne wrote: > Hi - > > I have been running this lute mail list since 1998, and it has been > interesting and fun. Now I am retiring from my job at Dartmouth College, and > when I retire the computers that I have

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Burwell Lute Tutor Pieces

2020-05-03 Thread Arto Wikla
I second Rob's comment. Thanks Ernst! Arto On 3.5.2020 12.31, Rob MacKillop wrote: >Your Scribd page has amazing treasures, Ernst! >Rob MacKillop > >On Sun, 3 May 2020 at 10:19, <[1]fischer...@aon.at> wrote: > > Dear lute friends, > As you most probably know, the

[LUTE] Re: Ballard 1612

2020-02-01 Thread Arto Wikla
Wow! Thanks Rainer! :-) Arto On 01/02/2020 18:09, Rainer wrote: > https://mazarinum.bibliotheque-mazarine.fr/ark:/61562/mz3446 > > Click under "Télécharger" > > Rainer > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Tablature

2018-12-11 Thread Arto Wikla
I thought every serious lutenist can sing the tabulature lines. sincerely Arto On 11/12/18 21:25, r.turov...@gmail.com wrote: What about those of us who compose in tabulature? I also know a few people who can sing off the tab. RT http://turovsky.org Feci quod potui. Faciant meliora

[LUTE] Re: Heres Paternus

2018-05-30 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi Google translates in (from Latin:) "paternal inheritance" Arto On 30/05/18 19:21, Bernd Haegemann wrote: Dear all, a beautiful pavan by Anthony Holborne. One variant is in the Varietie of Lute Lessons. Is there an explanation of the title? Kind regards Bernd --- Diese E-Mail wurde von

[LUTE] Re: Linear algebra

2018-05-13 Thread Arto Wikla
is a good idea! Arto On 13/05/18 23:00, Ralf Mattes wrote: Am Sonntag, 13. Mai 2018 21:44 CEST, Arto Wikla <wi...@cs.dartmouth.edu> schrieb: Tiny comment: f#-gb, d#-eb, c#-db, etc. are not octaves! ;-) To that I can only answer with that famous quote from Thomas Binkley: "Detai

[LUTE] Re: Linear algebra

2018-05-13 Thread Arto Wikla
Tiny comment: f#-gb, d#-eb, c#-db, etc. are not octaves! ;-) Arto On 13/05/18 22:30, Rainer wrote: A clarification: Suppose you want to place the frets on a lute so that: 1) All unisons are pure. That means the f on the second course has the same frequency as the open 1. course, the g on

[LUTE] Piece that has no connection to Indian music ;-)

2018-05-02 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi lutenists, here is a microtonal piece by one of my composer friends. This piece probably cannot be combined to to any Indian raga based performance? But who knows? He who searches, will find... https://soundcloud.com/juhani-nuorvala/kaiho Anyhow, I like this piece! No lutes ther, just a

[LUTE] Re: India News - Carnatic Music does the trick.

2018-04-03 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Tristan, fanciful and kind of interesting speculations you have had! Many thanks for the fun! I guess just that was your main intention, fooling the credulous. Please, go on with your fanciful stuff! :-) Arto On 04/04/18 00:53, Tristan von Neumann wrote: Sorry, I needed space for

[LUTE] Re: Some questions

2018-03-16 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi dear lutenist friends I've played many unorthodox lute thingies to the YouTube, oftenmost very badly. ;-) Here are links to some of them: * Pietre Rotolanti: Dipingi nera quella porta: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tuyf4uha8fs * Something very different: short teenage memory ... ;-)

[LUTE] Re: meantone tuning tech

2018-03-08 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi dear fellow lutenists My experience in many international "master courses" is that those, who talk most of this or that tuning, "4th" or "6th" or "equal", are just those, who are not the best in the intonation... Lute is a strange animal: you make compromises, you put tastini, you set

[LUTE] Re: Hole in the Wall

2018-02-18 Thread Arto Wikla
Oops! I have already made the intabulation! Just called it "Purcell: Hornpipe". Here is the tab: https://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/Arciliuto/PurcellHornpipe200617.JPG And here is my YouTube example of that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7hRdN00B3w=youtu.be Arto On 19/0

[LUTE] Re: Hole in the Wall

2018-02-18 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear theoj89294(?) Making an intabualation of that nice piece is not very complicated. If you wish, I can quite easily make one for you in the near future. ... In case you just start signing your messages... ;-) Arto On 18/02/18 23:43, theoj89...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu wrote:

[LUTE] Re: John Bull's Fantasy XII is Raga Yaman

2018-02-08 Thread Arto Wikla
) I did not post it: >     If a Hindustani flute player matches Fantasy XII, it sounds     like a >     Castello Sonata. I will try and prepare a mix with that, but     I have not      >     yet found the right music source. >     Anyone interested may get an mp3 in private email. >

[LUTE] Re: John Bull's Fantasy XII is Raga Yaman

2018-02-07 Thread Arto Wikla
Well, I listened carefully all those example combinations of Bull's harpsichord pieces and the suggested similiar(?) raga performances, and sincerely I could not find much in common between them, just two different sound clips connected. Tristan von Neumann is of course free to name me also

[LUTE] Re: Mystery Solved: John Bull had contact with IndianClassical Music

2018-02-05 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi all My friend, Finnish composer and specialist of Indian classical music and culture, commented Tristan's example by pointing to this funny video, which represents the type of joke that is not rare in Indian humour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ueGc2MTGog Arto On 05/02/18 23:44,

[LUTE] Re: Ballard 1614

2018-01-12 Thread Arto Wikla
Big thanks for the great facsimile! To the on-line publisher, the finder of it and also the nice version connector! :-) And I suppose that if you can play these pieces, you also quite easily find out, when there is an "e" and when there is a "c", don't you. ;-) all the best, Arto On

[LUTE] Re: German keyboard tablature

2017-05-26 Thread Arto Wikla
Perhaps this page helps: http://musicofyesterday.com/historical-music-theory/early-history-of-tablature/ Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Odd tuning

2017-04-07 Thread Arto Wikla
Äh, must be G-c-e-g-b-e (I cannot count to six ;-) ) Arto On 07/04/17 17:17, Arto Wikla wrote: Hi If it is the same as in his "Libro Tertzo", the six fingerboard courses are (assuming the 6th is in G): G-c-e-b-e ("b" in the English sense) Arto On 07/04/17 09:29

[LUTE] Re: Odd tuning

2017-04-07 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi If it is the same as in his "Libro Tertzo", the six fingerboard courses are (assuming the 6th is in G): G-c-e-b-e ("b" in the English sense) Arto On 07/04/17 09:29, Alain Veylit wrote: Anybody knows what the "Cordatura del signor Virgo" is like? (It is for archlute used by Meli) To

[LUTE] Re: Density of Savarez KF Alliance Strings?

2017-03-15 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Susanne Years ago I went to a pharmacy and asked them to measure the weight of one KF string with their precision scale. I had by myself measured the length and thickness very accurately. After calculatios I got the density 1791 Kg/m³. This has worked to me. I hope this helps! Arto

[LUTE] No problems on my lute! Was: basses in octaves

2017-03-01 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi lute gang and Bruno Bruno and others had problems in getting Aquila loaded nylgut CD and normal NNG strings work well in tune, when used as a pair fundamental-octave. I have had no problem in this. Here is the proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVmmPulDLVc=youtu.be The strings are

[LUTE] Re: String calculators

2017-03-01 Thread Arto Wikla
Neither I dare let Java applets run, but my most simple calculator runs in JavaScript, see https://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/Calcs/mc.html I use that, but you'll certainly find more advanced calculators, too. Arto On 01/03/17 15:59, Leonard Williams wrote: Can anyone recommend a good

[LUTE] Re: basses in octaves

2017-03-01 Thread Arto Wikla
In the "dark times", actually medieval times, they used the Pythagorean tuning, in which the major third is even larger than in the equal temperament. That third really is very dissonant! Arto On 01/03/17 10:18, Lex van Sante wrote: The major third is a dissonance in equal temperament

[LUTE] Re: basses in octaves

2017-02-28 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi Bruno No problems on my archlute's 6th and 7th. CDs and NNG octaves. Arto On 28/02/17 19:56, Bruno Cognyl-Fournier wrote: Dear Collective wisdom, I have been tuning my 5 and 6th course in octaves for years, with wound strings and gut or nylgut. recently I bought the CD loaded

[LUTE] Re: planetary tuners

2017-02-11 Thread Arto Wikla
I sincerely cannot understand the idea of those hidden "machine heads"! Violinists, viola players, cellists, ..., do not use those. Why should I? The old friction pegs are so easy, fast and good - if they are. I have had the luck of having good ones. But everyone may choose his/her own way,

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing

2017-02-02 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Mimmo, if you decide to make the loaded nylgut strings (CD) less elastic, I hope (and wish and urge ;-) ) that you keep also the original elastic version in your repertoire! They work exceptionally well on my Harz arclute, great stuff. And big thanks for your invaluable work! Arto On

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing

2017-02-01 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi My first impressions of the Aquila loaded nylgut strings are very good (archlute cc, G and F; 2x5th, 6th and 7th). My 1st check: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7boXtpffL0=youtu.be And 3 recorded real pieces: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nV7q2jxMK3Q=youtu.be

[LUTE] Re: Purcell

2016-09-30 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi Bruno Perhaps you can arrange (and select) some of the variations of my arr of Purcell's Chaconne (from King Arthur) to archlute? My tab is in https://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/PurcellChaconne020916.pdf And my video of playing it is in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olsmDPzPDq4

[LUTE] Re: Haydn on lute?

2016-05-20 Thread Arto Wikla
This group is fantastic! Thanks to everyone! :-) Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Haydn on lute?

2016-05-19 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear fellow lutenists. there is some chamber music to lute by Haydn. I just cannot find it! Any advice or help? Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Imprecise diameters on Savarez Alliance KF envelopes.

2016-05-04 Thread Arto Wikla
The difference between 0.50 mm and 0.52 mm KF's is actually not very big! If we take for example string length 600 mm and a = 220 Hz, we get the following "tensions" (well just "Kilograms" on our dear Earth ;-) ) KF 50 = 0.50 mm => 2.598 Kg ~ 2.6 Kg KF 52 = 0.52 mm => 2.702 Kg ~ 2.7 Kg The

[LUTE] Re: Stringing for baroque lute.

2016-04-25 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi all, as I already wrote earlier, the KFs can be calculated as "carbons", the density 1791 Kg/m³ works well. Actually years ago I measured a KF string with my micron and with pharmacy's precision scale. Then it was easy to calculate the density ... Arto On 25/04/16 11:25, Martin

[LUTE] Re: Strings for Liuto attiorbato

2016-04-17 Thread Arto Wikla
I have calculated Savarez KFs as if they were "carbon" strings: 1791 Kg/m³ Works. Arto On 17/04/16 16:16, Mathias Rösel wrote: --=_NextPart_001_0026_01D198BC.2C945FD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Collected

[LUTE] Re: CNRS

2016-03-24 Thread Arto Wikla
Our Finnish word "tiede" (~science) also has this wider European meaning, fortunately! :-) Arto On 24/03/16 20:07, Rainer wrote: On 24.03.2016 18:39, Brad Walton wrote: I believe that the word "science" has wider connotations in French than in English. As - unfortunately - in German.

[LUTE] Re: Pachenbel suite for theorbo

2016-02-23 Thread Arto Wikla
And by the way, these pieces are to baroque lute in d-minor tuning (11 courses is enough), no to theorbo! Arto On 23/02/16 18:55, Wayne wrote: That might be http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/tab-serv/tablature.cgi?Baroque_lute/pachelbel.pdf We will see if this gets to the list unmangled.

[LUTE] Re: theorbo tuning experiment

2016-01-15 Thread Arto Wikla
And by the way, all the 6 open strings of an a theorbo, A-d-g-h-e-a, should be familiar to guitarists, too. Only the order is little different... ;-) Arto On 15/01/16 18:58, David van Ooijen wrote: Replacing the second string with a high octave is what some continuo players do. I

[LUTE] Re: Another lute picture?

2015-11-24 Thread Arto Wikla
Perhaps somebody ordered this painting just to show, how some of his social enemies try to look like civilized, just to mock them. Or perhaps that couple did not pay properly to the painter for his work, and he decided to revenge. And maybe the couple even did not get the insult? Just a

[LUTE] Re: Repertoire questions

2015-11-02 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi all Perhaps my very old (1994!) "lute continuo school" is for some help to continuo beginners? See http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/continuo.pdf Arto On 02/11/15 20:28, Peter Kwasniewski wrote: Geoff, Many thanks for your note. I can see that the real solut

[LUTE] Re: Repertoire questions

2015-11-02 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi Peter, Dowland's son Robert published Amarilli with written out tabulature in 1610 in his "Musicall Banquet". It is to 7 course lute, but easily adopted to 6 courser. Arto PS If you wish, I can take a photo of those 2 pages and send them to you. On 02/11/15 18:56, Peter Kwasniewski

[LUTE] Re: String Calc

2015-10-15 Thread Arto Wikla
, anyhow. See http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/Calcs/mc.html If you wish to use the more general Java calculator, go first to that page, allow Java, use the calc, and disallow Java _before_ leaving the calculator page. I hope this helps, Arto On 15/10/15 19:52, Bruno Figueiredo wrote

[LUTE] Re: Violin and lute.

2015-10-13 Thread Arto Wikla
Herbert, if baroque counts and if you play continuo, there are enormous amount of possibilities. See for ex. our Albinoni: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INPaHCrft6U=youtu.be I play "renaissance" lute there. Arto On 13/10/15 05:46, Herbert Ward wrote: I have a chance to play music

[LUTE] Re: Addendum

2015-07-24 Thread Arto Wikla
Thanks Wayne! I am also one of the very early list members... ;-) Arto On 21/07/15 19:39, Ron Andrico wrote: I feel the need to add a clarifying remark my statement that when a service is free then YOU are the product. This discussion list, hosted by Wayne Cripps and his

[LUTE] Cavalli's La Statira music?

2015-05-02 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenist friends, today I spotted a very beautiful aria by Cavalli performed by Mariana Flores and Cappella Mediterranea: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSLbevOzmls Does any kind soul happen to have the partitura of this piece or even all of the La Statira? I'd be very happy to have

[LUTE] Re: Kapsberger Canario

2015-04-25 Thread Arto Wikla
On 24/04/15 19:03, Arto Wikla wrote: Yep, I've done that. I send it to you in private - the List doesn't accept attachments. Arto On 24/04/15 18:14, Michael Grant wrote: Does anyone know where I can find Kapsberger's Canario tab for a 10 c ren lute in g?A I have a copy of the original

[LUTE] Re: Kapsberger Canario

2015-04-24 Thread Arto Wikla
Yep, I've done that. I send it to you in private - the List doesn't accept attachments. Arto On 24/04/15 18:14, Michael Grant wrote: Does anyone know where I can find Kapsberger's Canario tab for a 10 c ren lute in g?A I have a copy of the original written for, I believe, the

[LUTE] Re: Tuner with preset temperaments

2015-03-05 Thread Arto Wikla
At least my Cleartune in Android shows also the frequencies... Arto On 05/03/15 15:01, doug asherman wrote: Hi David: Thanks very much for the info. The tuner is Cleartune for the iPad/iPhone. Great idea, making a list -- I'll see if I can find a tuner that displays

[LUTE] Erbarme and Mache?

2015-01-30 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi lute gang, does any of you have happened to number, arrange or even tabulate the Erbarme dich and Mache dich continuo by JS Bach of his St. M. Passion to (arch-)lute in g or theorbo in a? I could of course do that. But lots of work woud it be ... ;) And has anyone happened to make the

[LUTE] Re: how to amplify lute?

2015-01-27 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi all Just an innocent(?) question: If you need amplification, why to use the lute? Electric guitars are made for that purpose, loud music. ;-) Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: how to amplify lute?

2015-01-27 Thread Arto Wikla
On 27/01/15 23:53, Tobiah wrote: On 01/27/2015 01:49 PM, Arto Wikla wrote: Hi all Just an innocent(?) question: If you need amplification, why to use the lute? Electric guitars are made for that purpose, loud music. ;-) Oh right, and we can just use a Rhodes electric piano instead of those

[LUTE] Re: Historical Protestant music.

2014-12-30 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Herbert, there were no early music performances in those days, and so there was no Catholic or Protestant support to these in your 1520-1648. So it was not possible to support any historical performance either. Perhaps you could clear your question? Arto On 31/12/14 02:58, Daniel F.

[LUTE] Re: Chitarrone

2014-11-01 Thread Arto Wikla
Why not. Send me some example. :-) Arto On 01/11/14 17:32, Anton Höger wrote: Hi, is there anybody who plays Chitarrone? I would like to test someone a Chitarrone intavolation? Thx Anton To get on or off this list see list information at

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: (more readable version) Question about luthiers

2014-09-14 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi Robin, I have 3 of them. Here are my very first tests of them, just when I got them home: Hoffmann 11-courser (28.10.2011) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJogB6wxB3U Venere 7-courser (23.3.2012) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5lzPnVZl_ofeature=youtu.be Dieffopruchar 10-courser

[LUTE] Re: those Pegheadz!

2014-08-04 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, I love the violin type direct pegs on lutes: no endless turning and turning as the poor guitarists have to do, just a couple of times down and up, and there it is. I used to hate the guitar tuning gears; up, down, up down, tens of times, and at the end it is anyhow out of

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Svejk Sonata (ms. Podebrady Jelinik)

2014-06-02 Thread Arto Wikla
. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDFjR95vZdsfeature=youtu.be 2. http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/11_courseLute/SvejkSuite.pdf Hidden links: 4. https://www.facebook.com/groups/2485751181/permalink/10152456331856182/?comment_id152456500146182offset=0total_comments=1 To get on or off

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Svejk Sonata (ms. Podebrady Jelinik)

2014-06-02 Thread Arto Wikla
Corrected link to the written music: http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/11_courseLute/SvejkSuite.pdf On 03/06/14 00:24, Arto Wikla wrote: Hi lutenists, after having read the great book by J. Hasek, The Good Soldier Svejk, I had to play some Czech music... ;-) The Sonata

[LUTE] Re: ms. Doni

2014-04-19 Thread Arto Wikla
Yep, I also have the SPES' facsimile. Ordered it years ago directly from the publisher. Arto On 19/04/14 09:02, Bernd Haegemann wrote:

[LUTE] Re: versions of Tombeau do Mezangeau

2014-04-17 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi, according to Peter's wonderful database, 3 have been found: F-Pn ms. Vm7 6211, 31v F-Pn Ms. Res. 474 Denis Gaultier, Livre de tablature, p. 8 Perrine, Pieces de Luth en Musique, 1680, p. 8 See: [1]http://mss.slweiss.de/index.php?lang=engid=1exFilter=1type=mssst

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: NIIN KAUAN

2014-04-11 Thread Arto Wikla
/wikla/mus/NiinKauanMinaTramppaan.JPG The text is quite macho. 1st verse says something like this (in dialect): Iwalk the paths of this village as long as the soles of my shoes last. I make love to anyone I wish, and the hags cannot stop that. The second verse says something like this: How good

[LUTE] Re: Frottola, Tromboncino, Sorini

2014-04-04 Thread Arto Wikla
Very good! Thanks for the link, Roman! Arto On 04/04/14 18:38, Roman Turovsky wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNmeGzjK6Ic A truly fine performance, without histrionics. RT To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: making sure your message looks as you intended it -

2014-02-26 Thread Arto Wikla
Seconded! :-) Arto On 26/02/14 20:51, Jean-Marie Poirier wrote: Plain text is fine, Wayne. Thank you ! Jean-Marie -- Hi folks - Due to an absolutely overwhelming lack of interest, I am not going to change how the lute list handles formatted messages. Wayne Begin

[LUTE] Using my string calculators (answer to Leonard)

2014-02-16 Thread Arto Wikla
oldest calculator http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/Calcs/wwwscalc.html is in JavaScript, which is totally different from Java, but that page contains a tiny sub-calculator in Java for calculating unknown string material density. The warning must be connected to that, I suppose. The New Calc

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Chain of secondary dominants before they were invented...

2014-02-10 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi lutenists, I happened to find a nice example of a chain of secondary dominants long before they were invented. I've seen them also in other pieces of the period, but this one is very clear in one Courante by Valentin Strobel in the ms. PL-Kj40620:

[LUTE] Re: archlute/theorbo in Corelli's Op. 1

2014-01-31 Thread Arto Wikla
Jakob Lindberg had a funny speculation: In the old Venice dialect ti orba meant I'll blind you. Just think the problems with the long extension neck... Once I happened to hit the director of a choir, when he arrived to the front of the choir and me with the theorbo; tiny river of blood in

[LUTE] Re: 2014

2014-01-01 Thread Arto Wikla
Happy luting to every lutenist in 2014! Here is my modest try of an excellent piece by Lully: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3QtFKJcJ_kfeature=youtu.be Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Ballet lute book

2014-01-01 Thread Arto Wikla
Great! Thanks! Arto On 01/01/14 20:03, Andreas Schlegel wrote: Happy new year - and have a look at: http://digitalcollections.tcd.ie/home/index.php?DRIS_ID=MS408_001 Enjoy! Andreas Andreas Schlegel Eckstr. 6 CH-5737 Menziken +41 (0)62 771 47 07 lute.cor...@sunrise.ch -- To get on or

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Merry Winter Solstice or Christmas ... as you wish ;-)

2013-12-23 Thread Arto Wikla
So, you may choose ;) I played a tiny suite - only 3 parts - in the ms. Virginia Renata von Gehema, Berlin Mus. Ms. 40264) (D-B40264/145-147). These pieces are on consecutive pages of the ms. Only the Sarabande is known to be by F. Dufault, but it is possible that also the

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: The comet is coming!!!

2013-11-21 Thread Arto Wikla
;-) Arto On 20/11/13 20:33, Mark Seifert wrote: Being a chronic pessimist, I worry that luters rallying to this exciting opportunity might end up being allowed to play in public only during a cometary visit, sort of like being typecast as comet accompanists.

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: The comet is coming!!!

2013-11-19 Thread Arto Wikla
Nice idea Danny! :) Here is my try http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeNtCLv5cqofeature=youtu.be recorded in 15.2.2013 Arto On 19/11/13 23:30, DANIEL SHOSKES wrote: Dear all: as brought to my attention by Cathy Liddell, a new comet is rounding the sun and heading for earth's orbit. If it

[LUTE] Re: Tablature for publication

2013-11-19 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear all, I understand wholeheartedly the need for a good tool for tabulature publishing, but how beautiful are many of the original tabulatures! And they all - also those that are not so beautiful - are very personal! So why not write also nowadays by your own hand? No limitations in the

[LUTE] Re: My tiny little Hendrix ...

2013-11-04 Thread Arto Wikla
Zepplin? Tobiah On 11/01/2013 09:47 PM, Dan Winheld wrote: Very cool, Arto! Keep exploring, do more- it keeps us alive. Dan On 11/1/2013 4:05 PM, Arto Wikla wrote: .. just in case there is any interest, my just a tiny little modest try in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFN2nc9B0lcfeature

[LUTE] Re: My tiny little Hendrix ...

2013-11-04 Thread Arto Wikla
in a jarring effect that comes off as inaccurate timing. A worthwhile tongue in cheek endeavor. Do you do any Zepplin? Tobiah On 11/01/2013 09:47 PM, Dan Winheld wrote: Very cool, Arto! Keep exploring, do more- it keeps us alive. Dan On 11/1/2013 4:05 PM, Arto Wikla wrote: .. just in case

[LUTE] Re: Madrigals for female voices

2013-11-02 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Helen, what about the Concerto delle donne of Ferrara? See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concerto_delle_donne For example Luzzaschi wrote a book of madrigals for one, two, and three sopranos with keyboard accompaniment, published in 1601. Transforming the keyboard acc (freely) to lute

[LUTE] My tiny little Hendrix ...

2013-11-01 Thread Arto Wikla
.. just in case there is any interest, my just a tiny little modest try in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFN2nc9B0lcfeature=youtu.be best, Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Here is(are) the best luthier(s) to make an 11-course lute!

2013-09-26 Thread Arto Wikla
Thanks to everyone who suggested the best maker of an 11-courser! All the answers were private, which is very ok. And here is the list of the suggested makers in alphabetical order: Karl Kichmeyr Dan Larson Renatus Lechner Ivo Magherini Stephen Murphy Renzo Salvador Michael Schreiner Clive

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Best luthier to make 11-coursers?

2013-09-24 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear baroque lutenists, who do you regard as the best maker of 11-course lutes? I suppose my question is only theoretical, because her/his instruments are probably priced above my economical possibilites, though... ;-) Anyhow, 11-courser is very addictive; much more than I could imagine

[LUTE] Re: Thomas Thackray: Air (allegro moderato) 1772

2013-09-20 Thread Arto Wikla
Oh, how much I prefer the direct recordings (usually in not so optimal home acoustics) compared to the troubles of editing, echoing, mastering, cutting, pasting and all kinds of heavy producing of video and sound files... ;-) Arto On 20/09/13 23:41, WALSH STUART wrote: On 20/09/2013

[BAROQUE-LUTE] The tabulature of Mr. Leslie of the Balcarres ms.

2013-08-31 Thread Arto Wikla
In case someone wants to play these pieces, here is my practical performance facsimile: http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/11_courseLute/LeslieSuite/ Best, Arto On 30/08/13 22:17, Arto Wikla wrote: Dear baroque lutenists, Master Leslie or Mr. Leslie wrote only 5 pieces

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Mr. Leslie of the Balcarres ms.

2013-08-30 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear baroque lutenists, Master Leslie or Mr. Leslie wrote only 5 pieces to the Scottish manuscript Balcarres in the normal baroque tuning in d-minor - there are some more pieces in the D-major tuning and also in some other tuning... Anyhow, I just tubed those 5, and then glued

[LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness - Would you like to see my lute?

2013-08-13 Thread wikla
Very interesting! Thanks! But it is quite irritating to see, how obsequious JB is ... Arto On 13/08/13 01:32, Braig, Eugene wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4f8fej9Sqo Eugene To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] I got a new 10-courser today: Home againe, market is done

2013-07-05 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, I just picked my new 10-course lute by Lauri Niskanen, body model Dieffopruchar 1612. The lute is very, very new, it got the strings today, and I just drove 2 x 170km to get the instrument. First try is of course the famous Home againe, market is done from the

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Beautiful melody!

2013-06-20 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, b- and r-, I happened to find an exceptionally good melody in the baroque lute manuscript RA-BAn, Ms. 236.R-13769, Buenos Aires, Biblioteca Nacional. It is a Sarabande with its (quite interestingly made) Double. The composer is not known thus far today, but I strongly suppose,

[BAROQUE-LUTE] My 400th ;-)

2013-06-11 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, b- and r-, someone told me that it is something special, when you reach your 400th playing to y-tube. Perhaps it is, perhaps not. Anyhow, I started by several normal pocket digital cameras with their very lousy sound quality, did also some (bad) video editing in

[BAROQUE-LUTE] An interesting German song arr to lute solo

2013-06-04 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear baroque lutenists, today I happened to find an interesting song setting to lute solo, quite well made, in the D-LEm ms. II.6.24, Leipzig, Städtische Bibliotheken, Musikbibliothek. The piece is also named interestingly: Die weil ich nun Kein Weib nicht habe u. auch noch keines haben will.

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Kalivoda Suite in g-minor

2013-05-31 Thread Arto Wikla
://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/11_courseLute/KalivodaSuiteInGm/ And my playing the suite in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPSpgSB8_64feature=youtu.be Perhaps beginning baroque lutenists can find some ideas of my fingerings etc? Although I really am quite unotrhodox here and there. And what is good

[BAROQUE-LUTE] More early early music in 1720's, N. de Merville

2013-05-28 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, The ms. RA-BAn Ms. 236.R-13769, Buenos Aires, Biblioteca nacional, the the so called Kalivoda Ms., contains mainly music of the Weiss' times, Weiss included. But strangely enough, it seems to have also some early music as seen in 1720's. My second try in this is a Sarabande

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Pierre Gaultier in 1720! Old early music?

2013-05-25 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear baroque lute friends (cc to the main list) I happened to find something interesting: A Courante by Pierre Gaultier in a ms. of much later times, The Courante comes from ms. RA-BAn Ms. 236.R-13769, Buenos Aires, Biblioteca nacional, fol. 109v. The composer, Pierre Gaultier, was active

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Lully, Rondeau and its form (shape)?

2013-05-17 Thread Arto Wikla
in the Austrian ms. A-Wn ms. 17706, a transcription of a Rondeau in Lully's Persee (Perseus), Acte IV, Scene VI (LWV 60/73). You can see the Viennese tabulature here: [1]http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/11_courseLute/LullyRondoPersee Tab.jpg And the Lully original is here: [2]http

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Rhetorique on-line?

2013-03-20 Thread Arto Wikla
by Notator B)! All the best, Andreas Am 19.03.2013 um 21:30 schrieb Arto Wikla: Dear baroque lutenists, does anyone know, whether there is an on-line version of the facsimile of the Rhetorique des Dieux by Denis Gaultier? The pictures of the ms. are in the Net, but what about the tabulature

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Another piece about the unhappy Queen of Sweden

2013-03-14 Thread Arto Wikla
In the Rhetorique des Dieux: Artemise ou l'Oraison funebre, in the ms.ETGoessII C(ourante) G(aultier) sur L'entree de La Reine de Suede dans Paris: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN7ui491_7Ifeature=youtu.be http://vimeo.com/61828222 best, Arto On 12/03/13 22:49, Arto Wikla wrote

[LUTE] Re: anyone who can re-fret a lute: North London/South Midlands?

2013-03-12 Thread Arto Wikla
Still one opinion: I like and prefer the knot that David vE shows as the 2nd alternative in his page http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/fretknot.htm I learned that knot from my old lute teacher Leif Karlson, student of Michael Shaeffer. Very strong and reliable knot! Perhaps that will work? Arto

[LUTE] Two great ladies, Cleopatra and Swedish Katarina in f#-minor by Gaultier...

2013-03-12 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists In case someone is interested, I just tubed a direct and unedited home recording of an extremist French baroque lute description of a couple of very strong ladies of their times: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB0P_IXqm5kfeature=youtu.be http://vimeo.com/61645403 best,

[LUTE] Loaded nylguts?

2013-03-11 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi lutenists, are there any recent news of the loaded (new) nylgut srtings? Mimmo? :) Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Swedish von Düben

2013-03-01 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear baroque lutenists, when I started to study the baroque lute 3 years and some months ago, one of my first tries was one at least historically interesting piece - and at least to us Finns, Swedes and probably also Russians: This anonymous lute arrangement of of a marche by Anders von

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Rochus Berhandtzky

2013-02-21 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Bernhard (and dear List), great introduction, great analysis, great listing of pieces, great played examples and great collection of the pieces by Berhandtzky! Many, many thanks Bernhard! :-) Arto On 21/02/13 14:14, Bernhard Fischer wrote: Dear Lute Friends, Over the last few days I

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Comets, asteroids and meteors today...

2013-02-15 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi b-lutenists, I just made my 2nd pathetic try on La Comete, Chaconne du V.Gallot into the tubes: [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeNtCLv5cqofeature=youtu.be [2]http://vimeo.com/59757771 Very far from perfect performance, but today it was the most perfect day to play an

[LUTE] Re: Newsidler and plucking or not?

2013-02-02 Thread Arto Wikla
Just in case someone doesn't have the Elslein tabulatures, here you'll find the facsimile of my 1980's handwriting in French(!) tabulature by three Hanses: Judenkunig, Newsidler and also Gerle: http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/10_courseLute/ElsleinX3.pdf All the best, Arto On 01/02

[LUTE] Newsidler and plucking or not?

2013-02-01 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, if memory serves, we have been talking about one interesting question of interpreting German tabulature: when (especially) Hans Newsidler repeated a short note after longer one, did he really mean repeating the pluck, or did he thus just in this way express a note with a dot?

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