[LUTE] Re: Fishing Line Renaissance

2017-10-31 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Thank you Mimmo for the explanation. This fishing line thing should not mean that musical strings are the same. It's just that I cannot afford your musical strings, at least if I want to be able to also practice woodworking and lute building. Also, I'd love to build a gothic harp and putting

[LUTE] Re: Fishing Line Renaissance

2017-10-31 Thread Mimmo - Aquila Corde Armoniche
I would like to say something in matter. The nylon for music is not the same for fishing line, whose density is around 1.16. The density of the common musical nylon is 1.04 and it is a 6-12 polyamide. The du pont brand name is Tynex but it can be processed in Monofilaments everywhere. The

[LUTE] Re: Fishing Line Renaissance

2017-10-31 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Let's talk numbers here. Nylon is 1140 kg/m³, Durablend is 1150, gut is 1276 (Nylgut: 1260) and Fluorocarbon is 1790. (according to Karstilo's String Calculator) This means that Nylon/Durablend are *a lot* closer to actual gut or nylgut that Fluorocarbon is. How it feels and sounds is

[LUTE] Re: Fishing Line Renaissance

2017-10-31 Thread Dan Winheld
Actually, Nylon is a lot less dense than gut. To equal the tension of a .42 gut treble I need to go up to a .475 diameter in Nylon. And about .36 or .37 in Fluorocarbon, (which is why I almost never use it for trebles- getting like a bad steel string in sound & feel, although not of course in

[LUTE] Re: Fishing Line Renaissance

2017-10-31 Thread Braig, Eugene
Nylon is less dense than fluorocarbon. Eugene -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Anthony Glass Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 2:09 PM To: Dan Winheld Cc: lutelist Net Subject: [LUTE] Re: Fishing Line Renaissance So

[LUTE] Re: Fishing Line Renaissance

2017-10-31 Thread Tristan von Neumann
It's much less dense than Fluorocarbon. And only a little less dense than actual gut or nylgut. You will end up with similar, just a bit thicker diameters than those. Careful: They take a long time to settle (more than a week). Am 31.10.2017 um 19:09 schrieb Anthony Glass: So...is nylon

[LUTE] Re: Fishing Line Renaissance

2017-10-31 Thread Anthony Glass
So...is nylon more or less dense than fluorocarbon? I've never used nylon on a lute, only nylgut and PVF. Thanks! TG On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 11:00 AM, Dan Winheld <[1]dwinh...@lmi.net> wrote: Very cool discovery! Thanks. Could it be some form of the stuff referred to

[LUTE] Re: Fishing Line Renaissance

2017-10-31 Thread Dan Winheld
Very cool discovery! Thanks. Could it be some form of the stuff referred to as "Carbon" or "Flourocarbon"- the KF (in gauges up to.91) made by Savarez? Dan On 10/31/2017 6:55 AM, Tristan von Neumann wrote: Hello Lutist "cheapskates", I just got the information from the factory who produce

[LUTE] Re: Fishing Line Renaissance

2017-08-30 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Thanks, that sounds helpful! I would only string the first 4 courses anyway. If I use the calculator, I wouldn't quite know how this feels. Would that be a relatively high or low tension compared to other synthetic strings? How is the plucking experience? Cheers, Tristan Am 31.08.2017 um