[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-06-05 Thread Tristan von Neumann
So this is settled now. I talked to an old friend who bought dozens of Zoom recorders for a project and regretted it: it seems the production tolerance is very wide. He said that many of the recorders did not record at the same level and quality though all settings were the same. I now

[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-20 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Thank you! The new H4n Pro seems to have the preamps of the H6 - so the noise might be lower. Damn, this is really a hard decision... If semi-pro home recording is easy with this thing, it's definitely a pro. Anyone have the Tascam DR-07x? Since it is Mac OS compatible, Linux is probably

[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-20 Thread Konstantin Shchenikov
I own an old H4n and did a lot of recordings on that thing. Regarding your last question, Tristan: yes, one can use it as a USB sound processing device. When you connect it via USB, it let you choose a mode: storage (copy files only, not recharge a battery, I'm afraid) or as

[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-20 Thread Lex van Sante
I get very good results with Olympus LS10, LS-20M (for audio and video) and LS-100 recorders. Cheers! Lex > Op 20 mei 2019, om 12:26 heeft Ralf Mattes het volgende > geschreven: > > > Am Sonntag, 19. Mai 2019 19:06 CEST, Tristan von Neumann > schrieb: > >> It seems the Zoom can be

[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-20 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Yes I read about that - but it can be used as an USB sound processing device then, or does it only recharge or read files? On 20.05.19 12:26, Ralf Mattes wrote: Am Sonntag, 19. Mai 2019 19:06 CEST, Tristan von Neumann schrieb: It seems the Zoom can be powered by USB when recording at the

[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-20 Thread Ralf Mattes
Am Sonntag, 19. Mai 2019 19:06 CEST, Tristan von Neumann schrieb: > It seems the Zoom can be powered by USB when recording at the computer? > If not, I would tend to buy the Tascam with longer battery life. I can't speak about the newer H4 devices, but USB bus power only worked when the

[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-19 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Well then - my decision will now be between the Tascam DR-07x and the Zoom H4n Pro. It seems the Zoom can be powered by USB when recording at the computer? If not, I would tend to buy the Tascam with longer battery life. Both seem to be decent USB sound devices. What I recognized was that the

[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-18 Thread Roman Turovsky
Of course you can hear noise. This is New York City!)) RT On 5/18/2019 12:24 PM, Tristan von Neumann wrote: Seems ok, but I can hear the noise. The stand alone devices have better ratio there. On 18.05.19 18:04, Roman Turovsky wrote: built mic in iPhones is mono, as is the recording

[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-18 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Seems ok, but I can hear the noise. The stand alone devices have better ratio there. On 18.05.19 18:04, Roman Turovsky wrote: built mic in iPhones is mono, as is the recording software included , but the audio card it is great, and there are inexpensive gadgets you can plug into it. Tascam

[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-18 Thread Roman Turovsky
built mic in iPhones is mono, as is the recording software included , but the audio card it is great, and there are inexpensive gadgets you can plug into it. Tascam stereo mic works very well, and its gain is so strong that you need to have the limiter switch on at all times.

[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-18 Thread Ido Shdaimah
How do they fare when it comes to the lute? My cheap (but pretty awesome for the price) Xiaomi phone has an abysmal microphone. On Sat, 18 May 2019, 16:53 Roman Turovsky, <[1]r.turov...@gmail.com> wrote: iPhones are great for arts. I have 3 of them plus an iPad, dedicated

[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-18 Thread Roman Turovsky
iPhones are great for arts. I have 3 of them plus an iPad, dedicated to various projects. RT On 5/18/2019 8:06 AM, Tristan von Neumann wrote: Roman, just NO. :) Why would I want an iPhone. Or even a phone with a computer in it. My old Motorola Razr V9 looks good and doesn't need to recharge

[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-18 Thread Ad Emmen
I have good results with the https://instamic.io/ Use several Instamic pro's for professional interview recordings. Several hours of recording and battery. Most of the time I just turn them on and do not even bother looking at the monitor on the iPhone. They just work :-) Also did som lute

[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-18 Thread Martyn Hodgson
I use a Zoom H2 for recording concerts including those with singers, strings etc as well as lute/theorbo/guitar. Very quick to set up with a good field of capture. I then download to my PC and use Audacity (others are available!) to adjust - this also avoids having to undertake

[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-17 Thread r . turovsky
The best field recording device is your own iPhone, with a $50 Tascam stereo mic, and Rode recording app. RT http://turovsky.org Feci quod potui. Faciant meliora potentes. > On May 17, 2019, at 10:02 PM, Daniel Heiman wrote: > To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-17 Thread Daniel Heiman
On the Amazon US website, on the "reviews" page for the Roland R-07 recorder, there is an extensive comparative discussion by Micheal Mathews of that recorder vs. the Zoom H-1 and the Tascam DR-07. His conclusion is that the Roland wins for musical recording.

[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-17 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Thank you all for the input. I guess I can manage 200 bucks even if it hurts. My room is actually not suboptimal for recording, I have sofa, carpet, wall carpet, etc. and it sounds really dry. I guess I'll go for the H4n just because some of the features are very interesting. Still, I

[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-17 Thread Mark Probert
Hi, Tristan. > > while we're at it: > I finally have some small budget to buy a recording device. > I very much like the Sony PCM-M10. I've no idea of how it compares pricewise, but it is an excellent portable recorder both using its internal mics and using plugins. HTH .. m. To get on or

[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-17 Thread Jurgen Frenz
I found Tascam recorders to sound better than "the others" - the zoom devices have powerful marketing. Forget about USB mics, they are crap and I'm polite. If you want to record straight into your com running Linux you exponentially add problem sources, I strongly encourage you not to. Good

[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-17 Thread David van Ooijen
You'd be surprised, some devices only have auto gain ... David *** David van Ooijen [1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com [2]www.davidvanooijen.nl *** On Fri, 17 May 2019 at 20:35, Ralf Mattes <[3]r...@mh-freiburg.de> wrote:

[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-17 Thread Ralf Mattes
Am Freitag, 17. Mai 2019 20:26 CEST, David van Ooijen schrieb: >The best thing in both units is that you can override the auto gain >(don't even know if the bigger unit has auto gain, the bane of dynamic >playing). Yeah, you would never want to use auto-gain ;-) Cheers, RalfD

[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-17 Thread Ralf Mattes
Yes, Tascam does make some pretty nice hardware. But keep in mind: the "cheaper" (<200 Euro) models lack the possibility to plug in external mics. That's fine for concert recordings but if you want to do a semi-professional solo lute recording (esp. in a sub-optimal recording space) you probably

[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-17 Thread David van Ooijen
I own a portable Marantz with decent on-board mics that does the job. I also own a slightly bigger Marantz (still portable) with on board mics but that I connect proper mic to and use as my studios recording device. Very, quiet mic preamps. Happy with both. The best thing in both

[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-17 Thread Matthew Daillie
I have a Tascam DR-1 and it has given me years of loyal service. It gives a very clean, natural sound, has good build quality and the original battery still provides outstanding autonomy. This model has obviously been superseded but there are several others on offer. Try to see one in the flesh

[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-17 Thread Jacob Johnson
I'll second the recommendation for the Zoom H4. I got the H4n Pro as an upgrade from the Zoom H1. The H1 was great for a few years, but the H4n Pro has significantly better preamps. The original H4 has the same pre's as the H1, but the H4n Pro has the same pre's as the H6, so you

[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-17 Thread Ralf Mattes
I own a Zoom H4 (the old version) and am pretty happy with it. Did many concert recordings with it. The actual microphone capsules are pretty good (way better than one would expect). If you need you can plug in external mics - the device provides phantom power so you can use high-quality