[LUTE] Re: All about micing...part II

2012-04-10 Thread hera caius
All instruments very authentic copies. Gamba and violin on gut, historical bows, baroque flute traversierre, 14 course theorbo in A on nylgut and copper and organo di legno (wood organ) One example: [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfDoomhnUOUlist=UUFoONkd8wBnm1emuE8y

[LUTE] Re: All about micing...part II

2012-04-10 Thread Christopher Wilke
Hera, If I may be so bold, I might suggest playing closer to the bridge with the thumb far out in front of the fingers as the treatises and iconographic sources demonstrate. I feel that as pluckers in ensembles, we have to get past the idea of always making a nice sound. (not that

[LUTE] Davidgarchy

2012-04-10 Thread Louis Aull
David, In this quote: However, I would add that most lutes made nowadays are not copies of originals. They are rescaled, resized, rebarred, rebridged, reglued, revarnished. Available is everything: everything-except-original. Now, you may want that.

[LUTE] Re: All about micing...part II

2012-04-10 Thread Lex van Sante
I agree with Christopher, also as suggested by Mathias one could (probably should)break the chords. A close study of the way that for instance Esaias Reussner tells us about how to break chords gives us an idea and could provide a starting point. Lex Op 10 apr 2012, om 13:26 heeft hera

[LUTE] Re: All about micing...part II

2012-04-10 Thread William Samson
I must say you seem to be right here, Chris. We lutenists (and I'm no exception) have this prejudice in favour of always producing a 'nice' sound. There's no reason to believe the old guys weren't as passionate and vigorous as ourselves. It's hard to believe they always

[LUTE] Re: What makes a good lute?

2012-04-10 Thread William Samson
A luthier would need a formula relating hand dimensions (hand span, fistmele and so on) in order to build a lute that's exactly the right size for a particular player. Without such a formula, all the luthier gets is a headache when asked to build a lute that's the right size for a

[LUTE] Paul O'Dette interview

2012-04-10 Thread Valery Sauvage
Some interesting videos... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clxoDOwK-qI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ5vltWA0IY To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Paul O'Dette interview

2012-04-10 Thread Braig, Eugene
That guitar teacher, mentioned very early on, was Mr. John McCormick, and is still active in publishing classical-era art song with guitar accompaniment and is one of my favorite guys in the world. Eugene -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu

[LUTE] Re: Paul O'Dette interview

2012-04-10 Thread wikla
Thanks for the links, Val! I had to listen all of the program immediately. It is a pity that the concert was excluded... Arto On 10/04/12 16:10, Valery Sauvage wrote: Some interesting videos... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clxoDOwK-qI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ5vltWA0IY

[LUTE] Re: All about micing...redux

2012-04-10 Thread tom
From: Braig, Eugene brai...@osu.edu Subject:[LUTE] Re: All about micing...redux I'm assuming it's still pronounced 'mike' but maybe it's 'mick'? Perhaps we should be talking about 'micking'? I think Jagger has a copyright on that term ... T To get

[LUTE] Re: Paul O'Dette interview

2012-04-10 Thread Valéry Sauvage
Yes a pity, but many on the list will be glad we couldn't hear this typical non hip player, playing late Elizabethan repertoire with thumb under, near the rose and with nylgut strings... ;- V. -Message d'origine- De : wi...@cs.helsinki.fi [mailto:wi...@cs.helsinki.fi] Envoyé :

[LUTE] Re: All about micing...redux

2012-04-10 Thread Braig, Eugene
To be perfectly clear, the quote below regarding pronunciation is not mine, but is re-quoted from my reply to William Samson et alia. Carry on. Eugene -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of t...@heartistrymusic.com Sent:

[LUTE] Re: All about micing...part II

2012-04-10 Thread howard posner
Some of the responses to the Harmoniis video might indicate that there was some problem with the balance. The continuo balance is good and I could hear the theorbo just fine. On Apr 10, 2012, at 4:26 AM, hera caius wrote: All instruments very authentic copies. Gamba and violin on gut,

[LUTE] Re: What makes a good lute?

2012-04-10 Thread Daniel Winheld
My teacher told me that you don't choose a lute, it chooses you. Maybe that is true. That is true, you know it when you feel it, but it may take years of playing experience on many instruments to finally recognize that right and perfect match up when it happens. My once-in-a-lifetime lute

[LUTE] Re: What makes a good lute?

2012-04-10 Thread Daniel Winheld
Although the shoe analogy can be taken too far, it is true that one edge of the double-edge sword of too many historical sizes, shapes, set-ups that can lead the player/builder dynamic astray is also that other edge provides more opportunity to get it right; and was consciously done so:

[LUTE] Re: Paul O'Dette interview

2012-04-10 Thread Edward Mast
I hope Val exaggerates when he says many on the list will be glad. . .. The practical reasons for using nylgut - especially in performance - are obvious. And if POD didn't feel he was getting the sound best expressing his interpretation of the music he plays with thumb under technique, I'm

[LUTE] Re: What makes a good lute?

2012-04-10 Thread William Samson
Another source that recommends practicing on a tough-to-play lute is the Mary Burwell book. It will be good to play [. . .] upon a lute something high in strings and the strings something big. Practicing upon such a lute, it will strengthen the hands and make you play admirably

[LUTE] Re: Paul O'Dette interview

2012-04-10 Thread Sauvage Valéry
-Message d'origine- De la part de Edward Mast Objet : [LUTE] Re: Paul O'Dette interview I hope Val exaggerates when he says many on the list will be glad. . .. Of course, it was some kind of joke... ;-) V. To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: Paul O'Dette interview

2012-04-10 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Valéry, how dare you ?... :-) ! Jean-Marie = == En réponse au message du 10-04-2012, 21:33:39 == -Message d'origine- De la part de Edward Mast Objet : [LUTE] Re: Paul O'Dette interview I hope Val exaggerates when he says many on the list will be

[LUTE] Re: Why strings out of mind subjective?

2012-04-10 Thread Ed Durbrow
Anthony, thank you for the morning reading. Much refreshing, vs the normal 'let's kill 70 million people because they are jews... mm muslims... mm... smell funny... don't use our money morning type of shock. I probably should have stated right away that i do not enjoy the sound of

[LUTE] Re: Miking a lute/theorbo

2012-04-10 Thread Ed Durbrow
Brad, I favor a coincident pair because there are no phase problems in mono, but even more so because it is easy to recreate. I don't have a problem with close miking (30-40cm). It is a matter of placement and mic quality, though. Every environment and instrument is different. It is probably