Re: really bad deals and reentrant tuning

2004-06-08 Thread bill
On Martedì, giu 8, 2004, at 07:10 Europe/Rome, Jon Murphy wrote: What is re-entrant tuning. reentrant tuning is when the strings you would normally expect to be lower are actually higher in pitch - nearer to the 1st string than the last. in other words the strings don't run in a progressive

Re: Moot (off topic)

2004-06-08 Thread Thomas Schall
A great book! I really do like Kiplings books but only know them in german so I cannot help with quotes. Thomas Am Die, 2004-06-08 um 06.53 schrieb Jon Murphy: Yes, but in this country if you ask someone: Do you like Kipling?, you'll get an answer: I don't know, how does one kiple?. Hence

Re-entrant tuning

2004-06-08 Thread Stewart McCoy
Dear Sean and Craig, I think a,c,e,a was a slip of the computer keyboard. (Assuming a 1st course tuned to a') Mudarra gives two tunings for the guitar: a',e',c',g and a',e',c',f. (I prefer to list the strings starting with the 1st course, i.e. the one highest in pitch.) It all depends what you

Tablature rhythm signs

2004-06-08 Thread Stewart McCoy
Dear All, While examining the Scolar Press facsimile of Campion's My sweetest Lesbia to be able to reply to Peter Nightingales' query, my mind turned to note values. It is perfectly clear from this song, or indeed any other song from this period, that the tablature rhythm sign |\ | | means

Re: Tablature rhythm signs

2004-06-08 Thread P-Kiraly
Dear Stewart, many thanks for your excellent posting. Your mails are always very interesting and of great value! You are absolutely right, that most of the modern editions etc. give wrong impression of the original notation. There are also some charts which give the corrcet relationship

Re: N*geria Scams

2004-06-08 Thread Lambert, SC (Simon)
Just a small correction to something Arthur said: The message was a genuine warning from Chris Goodwin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), administrator of the Lute Society of Great Britain (as they now call themselves). In fact the Lute Society based in the UK, of which Chris Goodwin is secretary, is called

Re: My Sweetest Lesbia

2004-06-08 Thread Peter Nightingale
Dear Stewart, I understand what you are saying and it makes sense. As a matter of fact, this is precisely how I count Campions' Fire, Fire (Third Book of Ayres, XX). However, there is a difference: Fire, Fire goes from C to 3 and, whereas My sweetest Lesbia goes from 3 to C-slash. The

Re: really bad deals and reentrant tuning

2004-06-08 Thread Alain Veylit
On Martedì, giu 8, 2004, at 07:10 Europe/Rome, Jon Murphy wrote: What is re-entrant tuning. --I thought re-entrant tuning was when you stop the other guys from playing so you get a second chance to tune. --In a solo setting, re-entrant tuning means to stop mid-way through a piece to adjust

My Sweetest Lesbia

2004-06-08 Thread Stewart McCoy
Dear Peter, Campion's Fire, fire is similar to My sweetest Lesbia, in that both have changes of meter. Here I think the dotted minim of the words Come Trent and Humber is the same as the minim of the preceding section, and the same as the minim of the following section, And if you can. It would

Re: really bad deals and reentrant tuning

2004-06-08 Thread Joachim Lüdtke
Dear Alain, that's wonderful! You saved my evening after a particular hard day. I'm going to try to tune my lute now ... Cheers, Joachim Alain Veylit [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: On Martedì, giu 8, 2004, at 07:10 Europe/Rome, Jon Murphy wrote: What is re-entrant tuning. --I thought

RE: really bad deals and reentrant tuning

2004-06-08 Thread Alain Veylit
Charles, Hence the definition of the Nigerian scam: an out-of-tune one-string lute from that country... Alain PS: Ashcroft tuning(3): the act of clipping strings on the wrong side of the bridge. At 10:04 AM 6/8/2004, Charles Browne wrote: recursive tuning would certainly be useful for a

Re: really bad deals and reentrant tuning

2004-06-08 Thread lutesmith
--Tuned in fourths: when you only bother to tune every fourth string --Tuned in fifths: no one is lazy enough in the lute world to do it, but widely in use in the violin family of instruments Lutes are never tuned in seconds because it usually takes much longer than that. Sean

Re: really bad deals and reentrant tuning

2004-06-08 Thread Thomas Schall
Am Die, 2004-06-08 um 22.33 schrieb lutesmith: Lutes are never tuned in seconds because it usually takes much longer than that. Wrong! Ask Stefan how (if ever) I tune my 10-course. It's *very* fast (I told him I would have bought it tuned and it would stay in tune since then. All a matter

Re: Tablature rhythm signs

2004-06-08 Thread Rainer aus dem Spring
Stewart McCoy wrote: .. The note known as a long would not normally feature in tablature, because tablature was nearly always barred. If a very long note was required (long or otherwise), it would be notated as lots of shorter notes tied together from one bar to the next. Milan uses the

Re: really bad deals and reentrant tuning

2004-06-08 Thread Howard Posner
Alain Veylit wrote: Is a fifth really a unit of measure for whisky? And any other liquor, including wine. 750 ml is close enough to a fifth of a gallon not to worry about the difference. I don't get the Ashcroft jokes, BTW.

Tablature rhythm signs

2004-06-08 Thread Stewart McCoy
Dear Rainer, You're quite right, of course. Milan uses a long for the final note of his pieces. Whether he means the last chord to be held for the full length of a long, or it is a way of showing the end of the piece and you let the notes ring on for as long as necessary, is neither here nor

Lute Society was Re: N*geria Scams

2004-06-08 Thread Arthur Ness (boston)
Yes, I saw the designation Lute Society of Great Britiain from someone on this list, and thought the Society had altered its name. I can't remember who it was, but it was someone I thought would be in a position to know. When I wrote to Chris, I asked. He said there had been no change. I too

Re: really bad deals and reentrant tuning

2004-06-08 Thread Alain Veylit
Howard, all, Serious and sincere apologies for getting the giggles on that tuning thing and for all the bad jokes - The Ashcroft references come from a WEB page I read recently detailing some comments he made regarding Classical music in general and opera in particular: Ashcroft seems to

Re: really bad deals and reentrant tuning

2004-06-08 Thread Alain Veylit
Alright, ooopsie, the Cultural bureau is a hoax... I had to go all the way to the Job opportunities page to figure it out for sure... Who knows: the beautiful song in the second link might be a fake too. Have the Sauceks taken over the whole WEB? Alain At 05:48 PM 6/8/04, Alain Veylit wrote: