[LUTE] Re: Hurel Symbol? and 'Nationalbibliothek in Wien' MS 17.706

2005-12-15 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Further to my previous email and also Alain Veylit's below, it's unlikely that these short horizontal dashes placed under individual notes are tenuto (holding) signs. As mentioned earlier, It's more likely that they are signs of articulation/emphasis. This use of special signs to denote

[LUTE] Re: Hurel Symbol? and 'Nationalbibliothek in Wien' MS 17.706

2005-12-15 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Chris Wilke, I don't know if a modern facsimile edition has been published: I obtained a microfilm about from the Nationalbibliothek Wien some 20 years ago. The MS is mostly in a single scribal hand for 11 course Dm lute and most probably dates from around 1700 with a suite by

[LUTE] Re: Hurel Symbol? and 'Nationalbibliothek in Wien' MS 17.706

2005-12-15 Thread chriswilke
Alain, I take the u to be an appoggiatura from below. Elsewhere, Hurel uses the star for vibrato and the comma for an appoggiatura from above. Chris --- Alain Veylit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many thanks to Chris for sharing the gigue bmp - One problem with the tenuto theory is in the

[LUTE] Another Fuenllana fantasia

2005-12-15 Thread Rob MacKillop
Number 9 from Book 4. Usual mp3, French tab and basic guitar transcription: http://www.musicintime.co.uk/Fuenllana.htm Or http://www.musicintime.co.uk/dates.htm Numbers 10 to 13 of the fantasias from this book have the lowest course dropped a tone. I 'recorded' one about three times today, but

[LUTE] Re: Hurel Symbol? and 'Nationalbibliothek in Wien' MS 17.706

2005-12-15 Thread Mathias R�sel
I take the u to be an appoggiatura from below. Elsewhere, Hurel uses the star for vibrato and the comma for an appoggiatura from above. you can see it in Saizenay, too. Star stands for vibrato. In some pieces, appogiature from below are marked by half moon on the left, in some pieces

[LUTE] Re: Hurel Symbol? and 'Nationalbibliothek in Wien' MS 17.706

2005-12-15 Thread William Wright
Dear List, As long as we are on the subject of lines in tablature, what about those vertical lines that seem to connect one or more notes in the treble and (usually) only one in the bass, that crop up occasionally? Is this an indication that the two or three notes are to be played

[LUTE] Chardavoine translation

2005-12-15 Thread Phalese
Dear Lutenetters, Maybe someone out there can help me with a voix de ville from Jean Chardavoine 1576 publication entitled L'ennuy qui me touemente. The tune which is a sort of passemezo thing is also in Arbeau. My question is does anybody have a english translation of the text or know where I

[LUTE] Re: Oil

2005-12-15 Thread EUGENE BRAIG IV
- Original Message - From: Jason Kortis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, December 16, 2005 10:17 am Subject: [LUTE] Oil Hello all, Is anyone aware of oil used in the renaissance by players to soften their hands and facilitate the whole process of playing the lute? Did they drink any

[LUTE] Re: Hurel Symbol? and 'Nationalbibliothek in Wien' MS 17.706

2005-12-15 Thread Mathias R�sel
Further to my previous email and also Alain Veylit's below, it's unlikely that these short horizontal dashes placed under individual notes are tenuto (holding) signs. to put things straight, those longer inclined lines (lower left to upper right) signifying bass notes to be held on, which