On 09.04.2018 14:28, spiffys84121 wrote:
Yes my French is lower in the ocean than my Italian. I may have that
journal buried somewhere, but I suspect not.
As I said, I can send a scan. Let me know if you need it.
Sent from a real computer
Rainer
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9/18 6:11 AM (GMT-07:00)
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Subject: [LUTE] Re: Piccinini in English
Erm - do you speak French?
I have a translation to French.
Rainer
PS
There is a translation to English in the LSA Journal 1996 by Stan
Buetens.
Of course
Erm - do you speak French?
I have a translation to French.
Rainer
PS
There is a translation to English in the LSA Journal 1996 by Stan Buetens.
Of course, I can send it.
I assume your English is better than your French :)
On 09.04.2018 13:32, spiffys84121 wrote:
Could some dear person
Though Piccinini describes 13 course lute in his 1623 preface, I know
at least two pieces, asking just for 7 cources. Corrente V (1st book)
and famous Passacaglia (2nd book). May be there is another examples,
but haven't played all Piccinini pieces through.
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> Though Piccinini describes 13 course lute in his 1623 preface, I know
> at least two pieces, asking just for 7 cources. Corrente V
in the
> 1580s. He was an old man by the time his book was published in 1623. Strange
> to think he was an exact contemporary of Dowland.
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> Martin
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Though Piccinini describes 13 course lute in his 1623 preface, I k
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Hi Monica, both books are for the same instrument, which is a liuto
attiorbato. The author tells in the preface of the 162
Hi Monica, both books are for the same instrument, which is a liuto
attiorbato. The author tells in the preface of the 1623 edition the
number of courses intended and the tunning. There is also some tips
about technique for both the lute and the chitarrone. The second book
is
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Hi Monica, both books are for the same instrument, which is a liuto
attiorbato. The author tells in the preface of the 1623 edition the
number of courses intended and the tunning. There is al
Thank you.
You are right about questions : )
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Hi Susanne,
Questions make us tick, answers
Hi Susanne,
Questions make us tick, answers are usually boring, aren't they?
You're right about Piccinini.
He was a follower of the then fashionable TO technique.
Dowland, Laurencini, Howett and others seem to have used TO , although Dowland
is said to have started his career using TI..
At
I think for most musical instruments playing techniques have evolved in
directions away from rigidness and constrictions.Casals comes to mind in
the way he moved towards more freedom of arm movement in cello playing. No
doubt placing the little finger close to the bridge and firmly keeping
Roman,
It's here:
http://www.gerbode.net/ft2/composers/Piccinini/book_2_1639/pdf/passacaglia.pdf
http://www.gerbode.net/ft2/composers/Piccinini/book_2_1639/pdf/passacaglia.pdf
Also check out the ancestral directories for other formats.
Best regards,
Peter.
On Sun, 25 Apr 2010, Roman Turovsky
There's a German grand staff edition entitled Alessandro Piccinini,
Das Lautenwerk von 1623 prepared by Denise Perret, Ricardo Correa and
Monique Chatton that has both a German and an English translation of
Piccinini's introduction. The publisher is Heinrichshofen's Verlag,
Wilhelmshaven
Eric,
Thanks for the information.
I just heard that Stanley Buetens wrote an article in American Lute
Journal #2 that has a complete translation of all text throughout the
volume.
Peter.
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008, Eric Crouch wrote:
There's a German grand staff edition entitled Alessandro
PDF, 63 Kb, only in French!
http://tinyurl.com/4wk5vg
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Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:09 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Piccinini
Dear All,
Does anyone have or know where I can find a translation of the
introduction to Alessandro Piccinini's
Can't afford a lautenwerk :)
No room eitherhad one for a while and it was really in the way.
Also tuning was very strange. You really have to tune from the middle
out in both directions because it goes out of tune before you reach the end.
I think a a baroque lute, D mi theorbo, gallichon
At 03:28 PM 12/23/2007, David Tayler wrote:
When getting an archlute, get one that can be either double or single
strung, and have different divisions, e.g. 6+8, 7+7
8+6, etc. 8+6 is great for Bach (low F and F sharp; C and C sharp).
6+8 great for earlier repertory.
More holes; less poles.
After
Martyn, Eugene,
This latest Piccinini remark, reminds me of an earlier topic,
Theorbo + Nails. While looking for Piccinini texts for Jim Abraham, I
found the introduction to his lute tablatures, translated into French.
It looks very much like Piccinini's instruction for the use of nails
That's because Bach didn't have the same hands-on exactness for
idiosyncratic playability that Piccinini Weiss had with lutes. He
hit an approximate range, texture, and either figured a real lute
player could work it out, or he really composed (at least some of it)
for his Lautenwork (sp?)
And speaking from experience- I have an ancient Bob Lundberg original
13 course bass rider Baroque lute. Wanting to play Piccinini
specifically and explore the archlute/Italian Baroque lute generally,
I re-strung tuned the Lundberg. Very, very clumsy and ineffective
for that repertoire.
Re chitarrone theorbo--
Skip the label.
Early on, some modern scholars decided to conflate the theorbo and
the chitarrone.
Historically, that is not the case. Historically, many of these terms
meant different things to different people at different times.
There may have been a Chitarrone bass
When getting an archlute, get one that can be either double or single
strung, and have different divisions, e.g. 6+8, 7+7
8+6, etc. 8+6 is great for Bach (low F and F sharp; C and C sharp).
6+8 great for earlier repertory.
More holes; less poles.
Or buy 6 archlutes.
dt
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Still laughing.
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Or buy 6 archlutes.
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Priceless; archlute advice for the ages- from one who has paid his dues.
More holes; less poles!
-But I still will not touch Sting's CD with a ten foot theorbo (yes
I've heard it). The late Lorraine Hunt is another matter entirely.
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For me the simple answer is:
-- three quick note / one long / three quick note / one long / etc...
Unless sombody knows another source with a more precise notation of the
piece, there is no authoritative solution to the question. To my
knowledge that generation of lutenists had no way to notate
I think the dot on the left of the crotchet means that it takes some
value from the preceding tactus. It could be: minim - 3semiquavers -
1semiquaver tied to the crotchet. or: minim - semiquavers triplet -
dotted crotchet. The first seems to sound more natural.
Il giorno 02/dic/07, alle
Sarge Gerbode's website has four pieces: look on www.gerbode.net/ft2/
composers/Piccinini/
On Sep 2, 2006, at 7:27 AM, Anton Birula wrote:
I am looking for the works by Allessandro Piccinini in
french
tabulature
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Belated thanks to all for the links. I've downloaded the two different
versions mentioned.
Is there a preference or a standard for modern editions in tablature?
Dennis
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On Saturday, Nov 12, 2005, at 12:08 America/Los_Angeles, dc wrote:
Where might I find the music for this Ciaccona?
It's in his 1623 book. Both Piccinini books are included in SPES #50
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I have a transcription (Italian tablature also with keyboard
realization), as three PostScript files at
http://ace.acadiau.ca/score/archive/ftp.htm#P
GJC
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From: Eric Crouch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 13 November 2005 15:30:11 GMT
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Subject: Re: [LUTE] Piccinini
You can find it here: http://www.gerbode.net/ft2/composers/
Piccinini/
Eric Crouch
On 12 Nov 2005, at 20:08, dc wrote:
Where
Try the Fronimo Group at yahoo.
Best wishes
Thomas
Am Samstag, 12. November 2005 21:08 schrieben Sie:
Where might I find the music for this Ciaccona?
http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/download/audio/Ciaccona_Piccinini.mp3
Thanks,
Dennis
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