[LUTE] Re: Theorbo by Nic. Nic. B. van der Waals for sale

2009-02-17 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Informed Performance' it is clearly daft to ignore historic precedent and practice. MH --- On Mon, 16/2/09, howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com wrote: From: howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com Subject: [LUTE] Re: Theorbo by Nic. Nic. B. van der Waals for sale To: lutelist

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2009-02-17 Thread Martyn Hodgson
--- On Tue, 17/2/09, Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Theorbo by Nic. Nic. B. van der Waals for sale To: David Rastall dlu...@verizon.net Date: Tuesday, 17 February, 2009, 8:30 AM

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2009-02-17 Thread David Rastall
On Feb 17, 2009, at 3:37 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote: If we have any pretensions to 'Historically Informed Performance' Do you think we're all being pretentious? it is clearly daft to ignore historic precedent and practice. It's impossible to be 100% historical about anything. Besides,

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo by Nic. Nic. B. van der Waals for sale

2009-02-17 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Pretension: justifiable claim (OED). --- On Tue, 17/2/09, David Rastall dlu...@verizon.net wrote: From: David Rastall dlu...@verizon.net Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Theorbo by Nic. Nic. B. van der Waals for sale To: hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: lutelist Net lute

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2009-02-17 Thread William Brohinsky
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 3:37 AM, Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: However, for mysterious reasons, some modern players string small theorboes with low octaves on the second course even when wholly unnecessary at the pitch in which they play. If we have any pretensions to

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo by Nic. Nic. B. van der Waals for sale

2009-02-17 Thread David Rastall
On Feb 17, 2009, at 10:32 AM, William Brohinsky wrote: Is it somehow illegal to play music for long theorbos on short theorbos? If you wish to play the music of Kapsberger or Piccininni, but cannot afford to buy (or cannot manage to borrow) a theorbo longer than some criteria (which hasn't

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2009-02-17 Thread Guy Smith
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Theorbo by Nic. Nic. B. van der Waals for sale On Feb 17, 2009, at 10:32 AM, William Brohinsky wrote: Is it somehow illegal to play music for long theorbos on short theorbos? If you wish to play the music of Kapsberger or Piccininni, but cannot afford to buy (or cannot manage

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2009-02-17 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
: [LUTE] Re: Theorbo by Nic. Nic. B. van der Waals for sale On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 3:37 AM, Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: However, for mysterious reasons, some modern players string small theorboes with low octaves on the second course even when wholly unnecessary

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2009-02-17 Thread David Rastall
On Feb 17, 2009, at 10:29 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote: Pretension: justifiable claim (OED). I'll take that as a no to my question. Martyn, I'm not entirely sure what your justification is for advocating large theorbos only. I realize that this has been discussed on the list before, but as I

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2009-02-17 Thread Mayes
[mailto:dlu...@verizon.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 8:10 AM To: William Brohinsky Cc: hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk; lutelist Net; howard posner Subject: [LUTE] Re: Theorbo by Nic. Nic. B. van der Waals for sale On Feb 17, 2009, at 10:32 AM, William Brohinsky wrote: Is it somehow illegal

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2009-02-17 Thread corun
The difference between me and a mad man is that I am not mad. - Salvador Dali those who dance are thought mad by those who don't hear the music Anon When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained. Mark Twain To get on or off this list see list

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2009-02-17 Thread Mark Wheeler
] Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. Februar 2009 17:10 An: William Brohinsky Cc: hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk; lutelist Net; howard posner Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Theorbo by Nic. Nic. B. van der Waals for sale On Feb 17, 2009, at 10:32 AM, William Brohinsky wrote: Is it somehow illegal to play music for long

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2009-02-17 Thread David Rastall
On Feb 17, 2009, at 3:19 PM, Mark Wheeler wrote: To be fair to Martyn, he is merely using one of the fundamentals of historical lute stringing, the highest string is tuned to the highest pitch that is possible with the thinnest useable string. Fair enough. When they started making the big

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2009-02-16 Thread gary digman
] Re: Theorbo by Nic. Nic. B. van der Waals for sale Dear Arto and all, After the brief discussion about theorbo prices, I looked around for of other makers prices to reevaluate the worth of my theorbo by Nico van der Waals I am currently offering for sale for 7900€ (original price was 8250€ back

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2009-02-16 Thread David Tayler
, February 15, 2009 4:31 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Theorbo by Nic. Nic. B. van der Waals for sale Dear Arto and all, After the brief discussion about theorbo prices, I looked around for of other makers prices to reevaluate the worth of my theorbo by Nico van der Waals I am currently offering for sale

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2009-02-16 Thread Alfonso Marin
Dear Howard, What do you mean by TOY theorbo? Have you seen the pictures? Do you think Nico van der Waals will ever make a TOY instrument? Sorry. I don't get it. Greetings, Alfonso On Feb 15, 2009, at 7:18 PM, howard posner wrote: On Feb 15, 2009, at 4:31 AM, Alfonso Marin wrote: I

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2009-02-16 Thread Martyn Hodgson
!) which do, indeed, require both courses to be lowered the octave. MH --- On Mon, 16/2/09, howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com wrote: From: howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com Subject: [LUTE] Re: Theorbo by Nic. Nic. B. van der Waals for sale To: lutelist Net lute

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2009-02-16 Thread chriswilke
Martyn, --- On Mon, 2/16/09, Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Why some players do it is a mystery; although, of course, the use of modern overwpound strings (if you like them) allows a fairly strong bass even with a small fingered string length. I currently have

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2009-02-16 Thread howard posner
On Feb 16, 2009, at 11:50 AM, chriswi...@yahoo.com wrote: I currently have plain gut on my A-tuned 76cm theorbo. Is that what you were using on the Hurel recording? -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

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2009-02-16 Thread howard posner
The web gremlins made my equals sings into chutney. On Feb 16, 2009, at 12:10 PM, howard posner wrote: As far as I can tell, if Martyn thought about such things, he would say my theorbo is a toy at A92, definitely not a toy at AD0, and probably not a toy at AA5, before realizing that there

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo by Nic. Nic. B. van der Waals for sale

2009-02-16 Thread David Rastall
On Feb 16, 2009, at 2:10 PM, Martyn Hodgson wrote: A small theorbo is called a 'toy' theorbo when, because of its relatively small size As I recall, toy is your own appellation, rather than some general historical definition. which only really requires the first course to be at the

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2009-02-15 Thread Alfonso Marin
Dear Arto and all, After the brief discussion about theorbo prices, I looked around for of other makers prices to reevaluate the worth of my theorbo by Nico van der Waals I am currently offering for sale for 7900€ (original price was 8250€ back in 2002). I am now certain that my asking

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2009-02-15 Thread Rob MacKillop
Seems fair to me, Alfonso. Everything is expensive, but your asking price is fair. Rob 2009/2/15 Alfonso Marin [1]luten...@gmail.com Dear Arto and all, After the brief discussion about theorbo prices, I looked around for of other makers prices to reevaluate the

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2009-02-15 Thread wikla
Dear Alonso et al. On 2/15/2009, Alfonso Marin luten...@gmail.com wrote: [...] I know that Arto did not want to suggest that my theorbo was too expensive but in an indirect way he actually did. For that reason I feel compelled to defend myself and demonstrate the fairness of my asking

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2009-02-14 Thread David van Ooijen
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 3:04 AM, sterling price spiffys84...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi-I have often wondered about van der Waals, like is he still building and where? Does he still take orders? Nico is still going strong, moved to Germany recently and is still taking orders. A pupil of mine just

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2009-02-13 Thread wikla
On 2/13/2009, Alfonso Marin luten...@gmail.com wrote: I am offering my Theorbo by NIco van der Waals for sale. .. Selling price is 7900 . The instrument really looks very beautiful! But is this really the price level of today? 7800 euros for a quality theorbo? In that case I am a rich

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2009-02-13 Thread Alfonso Marin
Dear Arto, Nico van der Waals is an emblematic maker with a reputation as solid as Michael Lowe. I payed 8250 Euro for this theorbo back in 2002. You certainly can get cheaper instruments but if you are really interested on playing something really special by one of the pioneers of lute