[LUTE] Re: Zarlino, Giuseppe - Quatre livres ou parties des Institutions harmoniques

2017-08-09 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
_ > __ >From: [2]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu <[3]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu> > on behalf > of G. C. <[4]kalei...@gmail.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 8:48 PM >To: Lute List >Subject: [LUTE] Re: Zarlino,

[LUTE] Re: Zarlino, Giuseppe - Quatre livres ou parties des Institutions harmoniques

2017-08-09 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
___ > > From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu <lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu> on behalf > of G. C. <kalei...@gmail.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 8:48 PM > To: Lute List > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Zarlino, Giuseppe - Quatre livres ou parties des &g

[LUTE] Re: Zarlino, Giuseppe - Quatre livres ou parties des Institutions harmoniques

2017-08-09 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Well, airs de cour were still accompanied by lutes in renaissance tuning at the time... Jean-Marie > Le 8 août 2017 à 22:48, G. C. a écrit : > > What baffles me is what a baroque tablature is doing, applied on a > renaissance tuning and a french translation of Zarlino

[LUTE] Re: Zarlino, Giuseppe - Quatre livres ou parties des Institutions harmoniques

2017-08-08 Thread howard posner
> On Aug 8, 2017, at 2:37 PM, Ron Andrico wrote: > > As far > as I can tell, all of these popular misconceptions were created by > 20th-century academics in an attempt to cram random information into > easily teachable categories. Fake musicology!? Sad. To get

[LUTE] Re: Zarlino, Giuseppe - Quatre livres ou parties des Institutions harmoniques

2017-08-08 Thread G. C.
From: [2]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu <[3]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu> on behalf of G. C. <[4]kalei...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 8:48 PM To: Lute List Subject: [LUTE] Re: Zarlino, Giuseppe - Quatre livres ou parties des I

[LUTE] Re: Zarlino, Giuseppe - Quatre livres ou parties des Institutions harmoniques

2017-08-08 Thread G. C.
What baffles me is what a baroque tablature is doing, applied on a renaissance tuning and a french translation of Zarlino in anno 1654 a 100 years after pub. I thought everyone had gone over to the other side by then! :) G. On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 10:10 PM, Jean-Marie Poirier

[LUTE] Re: Zarlino, Giuseppe - Quatre livres ou parties des Institutions harmoniques

2017-08-08 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Yes but it certainly shows how lutenists could transpose music to their instrument and this French translation is 17th century, one century after Zarlino published his treatise. Interesting stuff ! Best, Jean-Marie > Le 8 août 2017 à 21:24, G. C. a écrit : > > This was

[LUTE] Re: Zarlino, Giuseppe - Quatre livres ou parties des Institutions harmoniques

2017-08-08 Thread G. C.
This was first published in 1558. The original has no tabl. so these are examples... The person who copied (and maybe also translated) the italian print did a monumental work! G. On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 9:18 PM, Jean-Marie Poirier <[1]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr> wrote: The

[LUTE] Re: Zarlino, Giuseppe - Quatre livres ou parties des Institutions harmoniques

2017-08-08 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
The tablature is just the transcription of the notated parts, note for note, maybe an interesting insight into compositional processes of the time (mid-17th century)... Jean-Marie -- > Hi > has anyone looked at the lute tablature in this work (in french), or > even read