[LUTE] Re: Zarlino, Giuseppe - Quatre livres ou parties des Institutions harmoniques

2017-08-09 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Theory always appealed to musicians for its own sake sometimes. It gave them 
some sort of légitimity I would think.
JM


> Le 8 août 2017 à 23:55, G. C. <kalei...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> 
>   Demonstrably, Zamboni was old tuning.
>   But Zarlino in mid 17th means, they thought that his music theory was
>   still highly applicable. I thought they had abandoned hexachords and
>   modes and musica ficta by then. So what happened to the musica nova.
>   Isn't it all a bit anachronistic?
>   G.
> 
>   On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 11:37 PM, Ron Andrico <[1]praelu...@hotmail.com>
>   wrote:
> 
>It's yet one more among the many popular misconceptions that each
> and
>every lutenist played only d-minor tuned lutes by the mid-17th
>century.   The "renaissance" tuning was still in common use in
> France as
>evidenced by the publications of airs de cour.   In Italy, the
> old
>tuning seems to have persisted even longer, and references to
> "liuto"
>appear to have meant a six- or seven-course lute in old tuning.
> As far
>as I can tell, all of these popular misconceptions were created
> by
>20th-century academics in an attempt to cram random information
> into
>easily teachable categories.
>RA
>  
> __
>From: [2]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu <[3]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu>
> on behalf
>    of G. C. <[4]kalei...@gmail.com>
>    Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 8:48 PM
>To: Lute List
>Subject: [LUTE] Re: Zarlino, Giuseppe - Quatre livres ou parties
> des
>Institutions harmoniques
> 
> What baffles me is what a baroque tablature is doing, applied on
>   a
> renaissance tuning and a french translation of Zarlino in anno
>   1654
>  a
> 100 years after pub. I thought everyone had gone over to the
>   other
>  side
> by then! :)
> G.
> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 10:10 PM, Jean-Marie Poirier
> <[1][5]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> Yes but it certainly shows how lutenists could transpose music to
>  their
> instrument and this French translation is 17th century, one
>   century
> after Zarlino published his treatise. Interesting stuff !
> Best,
> Jean-Marie
>> Le 8 aoà »t 2017 à   21:24, G. C. <[2][6]kalei...@gmail.com> a
>   Ã ©crit :
>> 
>>This was first published in 1558. The original has no tabl.
>   so
> these
>>are examples...
>>The person who copied (and maybe also translated) the
>   italian
> print did
>>a monumental work!
>>G.
>> 
>>On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 9:18 PM, Jean-Marie Poirier
>><[1][3][7]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>> 
>>  The tablature is just the transcription of the notated
>   parts,
> note
>>  for note, maybe an interesting insight into compositional
> processes
>>  of the time (mid-17th century)...
>>  Jean-Marie
>>  --
>> 
>>>Hi
>>>has anyone looked at the lute tablature in this work (in
>  french),
>>or
>>>even read the whole thing?
>>>[1][2][4][8]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
>>>G.
>>> 
>>>--
>>> 
>>> References
>>> 
>>>1. [3][5][9]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
>>> 
>>> 
>>> To get on or off this list see list information at
>>> [4][6][10]http://www.cs.dartmouth.
>   edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>> 
>>--
>> 
>> References
>> 
>>1. mailto:[7][11]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
>>2. [8][12]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
>>3. [9][13]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
>>4. [10][14]http://www.cs.dartmouth.
>   edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>> 
> --
>  References
> 
>   1. [1]mailto:[15]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
>   2. [2]mailto:[16]kalei...@gmail.com
>   3. [3]mailto:[17]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
>   4. [4][18]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
>   5. [5][19]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
>   6. [6][20]http://www.cs.dartmouth.
> edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>   7. [7]mailto:[21]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
>   8. [8][22]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
>   9. [9][23]ht

[LUTE] Re: Zarlino, Giuseppe - Quatre livres ou parties des Institutions harmoniques

2017-08-09 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Exactly what I wrote before seeing your post,Ron...
Jean-Marie

> Le 8 août 2017 à 23:37, Ron Andrico <praelu...@hotmail.com> a écrit :
> 
>   It's yet one more among the many popular misconceptions that each and
>   every lutenist played only d-minor tuned lutes by the mid-17th
>   century.  The "renaissance" tuning was still in common use in France as
>   evidenced by the publications of airs de cour.  In Italy, the old
>   tuning seems to have persisted even longer, and references to "liuto"
>   appear to have meant a six- or seven-course lute in old tuning.  As far
>   as I can tell, all of these popular misconceptions were created by
>   20th-century academics in an attempt to cram random information into
>   easily teachable categories.
> 
>   RA
> __
> 
>   From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu <lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu> on behalf
>   of G. C. <kalei...@gmail.com>
>   Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 8:48 PM
>   To: Lute List
>   Subject: [LUTE] Re: Zarlino, Giuseppe - Quatre livres ou parties des
>   Institutions harmoniques
> 
>  What baffles me is what a baroque tablature is doing, applied on a
>  renaissance tuning and a french translation of Zarlino in anno 1654
>   a
>  100 years after pub. I thought everyone had gone over to the other
>   side
>  by then! :)
>  G.
>  On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 10:10 PM, Jean-Marie Poirier
>  <[1]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>  Yes but it certainly shows how lutenists could transpose music to
>   their
>  instrument and this French translation is 17th century, one century
>  after Zarlino published his treatise. Interesting stuff !
>  Best,
>  Jean-Marie
>> Le 8 août 2017 à 21:24, G. C. <[2]kalei...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>> 
>>   This was first published in 1558. The original has no tabl. so
>  these
>>   are examples...
>>   The person who copied (and maybe also translated) the italian
>  print did
>>   a monumental work!
>>   G.
>> 
>>   On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 9:18 PM, Jean-Marie Poirier
>>   <[1][3]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>> 
>> The tablature is just the transcription of the notated parts,
>  note
>> for note, maybe an interesting insight into compositional
>  processes
>> of the time (mid-17th century)...
>> Jean-Marie
>> --
>> 
>>>   Hi
>>>   has anyone looked at the lute tablature in this work (in
>   french),
>>   or
>>>   even read the whole thing?
>>>   [1][2][4]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
>>>   G.
>>> 
>>>   --
>>> 
>>> References
>>> 
>>>   1. [3][5]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
>>> 
>>> 
>>> To get on or off this list see list information at
>>> [4][6]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>> 
>>   --
>> 
>> References
>> 
>>   1. mailto:[7]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
>>   2. [8]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
>>   3. [9]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
>>   4. [10]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>> 
>  --
>   References
>  1. [1]mailto:jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
>  2. [2]mailto:kalei...@gmail.com
>  3. [3]mailto:jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
>  4. [4]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
>  5. [5]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
>  6. [6]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>  7. [7]mailto:jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
>  8. [8]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
>  9. [9]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
> 10. [10]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
> 
>   --
> 
> References
> 
>   1. mailto:jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
>   2. mailto:kalei...@gmail.com
>   3. mailto:jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
>   4. http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
>   5. http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
>   6. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>   7. mailto:jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
>   8. http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
>   9. http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
>  10. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
> 





[LUTE] Re: Zarlino, Giuseppe - Quatre livres ou parties des Institutions harmoniques

2017-08-09 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Well, airs de cour were still accompanied by lutes in renaissance tuning at the 
time...
Jean-Marie

> Le 8 août 2017 à 22:48, G. C.  a écrit :
> 
>   What baffles me is what a baroque tablature is doing, applied on a
>   renaissance tuning and a french translation of Zarlino in anno 1654 a
>   100 years after pub. I thought everyone had gone over to the other side
>   by then! :)
>   G.
>   On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 10:10 PM, Jean-Marie Poirier
>   <[1]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> 
>   Yes but it certainly shows how lutenists could transpose music to their
>   instrument and this French translation is 17th century, one century
>   after Zarlino published his treatise. Interesting stuff !
>   Best,
>   Jean-Marie
>> Le 8 août 2017 à 21:24, G. C. <[2]kalei...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>> 
>>   This was first published in 1558. The original has no tabl. so
>   these
>>   are examples...
>>   The person who copied (and maybe also translated) the italian
>   print did
>>   a monumental work!
>>   G.
>> 
>>   On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 9:18 PM, Jean-Marie Poirier
>>   <[1][3]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>> 
>> The tablature is just the transcription of the notated parts,
>   note
>> for note, maybe an interesting insight into compositional
>   processes
>> of the time (mid-17th century)...
>> Jean-Marie
>> --
>> 
>>>   Hi
>>>   has anyone looked at the lute tablature in this work (in french),
>>   or
>>>   even read the whole thing?
>>>   [1][2][4]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
>>>   G.
>>> 
>>>   --
>>> 
>>> References
>>> 
>>>   1. [3][5]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
>>> 
>>> 
>>> To get on or off this list see list information at
>>> [4][6]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>> 
>>   --
>> 
>> References
>> 
>>   1. mailto:[7]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
>>   2. [8]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
>>   3. [9]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
>>   4. [10]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>> 
> 
>   --
> 
> References
> 
>   1. mailto:jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
>   2. mailto:kalei...@gmail.com
>   3. mailto:jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
>   4. http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
>   5. http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
>   6. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>   7. mailto:jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
>   8. http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
>   9. http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
>  10. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
> 





[LUTE] Re: Zarlino, Giuseppe - Quatre livres ou parties des Institutions harmoniques

2017-08-08 Thread howard posner

> On Aug 8, 2017, at 2:37 PM, Ron Andrico  wrote:
> 
> As far
>   as I can tell, all of these popular misconceptions were created by
>   20th-century academics in an attempt to cram random information into
>   easily teachable categories.

Fake musicology!?  Sad.



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[LUTE] Re: Zarlino, Giuseppe - Quatre livres ou parties des Institutions harmoniques

2017-08-08 Thread G. C.
   Demonstrably, Zamboni was old tuning.
   But Zarlino in mid 17th means, they thought that his music theory was
   still highly applicable. I thought they had abandoned hexachords and
   modes and musica ficta by then. So what happened to the musica nova.
   Isn't it all a bit anachronistic?
   G.

   On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 11:37 PM, Ron Andrico <[1]praelu...@hotmail.com>
   wrote:

It's yet one more among the many popular misconceptions that each
 and
every lutenist played only d-minor tuned lutes by the mid-17th
century.   The "renaissance" tuning was still in common use in
 France as
evidenced by the publications of airs de cour.   In Italy, the
 old
tuning seems to have persisted even longer, and references to
 "liuto"
appear to have meant a six- or seven-course lute in old tuning.
 As far
as I can tell, all of these popular misconceptions were created
 by
20th-century academics in an attempt to cram random information
 into
easily teachable categories.
RA
  
 __
From: [2]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu <[3]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu>
 on behalf
of G. C. <[4]kalei...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 8:48 PM
    To: Lute List
    Subject: [LUTE] Re: Zarlino, Giuseppe - Quatre livres ou parties
     des
Institutions harmoniques

 What baffles me is what a baroque tablature is doing, applied on
   a
 renaissance tuning and a french translation of Zarlino in anno
   1654
  a
 100 years after pub. I thought everyone had gone over to the
   other
  side
 by then! :)
 G.
 On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 10:10 PM, Jean-Marie Poirier
 <[1][5]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
 Yes but it certainly shows how lutenists could transpose music to
  their
 instrument and this French translation is 17th century, one
   century
 after Zarlino published his treatise. Interesting stuff !
 Best,
 Jean-Marie
 > Le 8 aoà »t 2017 à   21:24, G. C. <[2][6]kalei...@gmail.com> a
   Ã ©crit :
 >
 > This was first published in 1558. The original has no tabl.
   so
 these
 > are examples...
 > The person who copied (and maybe also translated) the
   italian
 print did
 > a monumental work!
 > G.
 >
 > On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 9:18 PM, Jean-Marie Poirier
 > <[1][3][7]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
 >
 >   The tablature is just the transcription of the notated
   parts,
 note
 >   for note, maybe an interesting insight into compositional
 processes
 >   of the time (mid-17th century)...
 >   Jean-Marie
 >   --
 >
 >> Hi
 >> has anyone looked at the lute tablature in this work (in
  french),
 > or
 >> even read the whole thing?
 >> [1][2][4][8]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
 >> G.
 >>
 >> --
 >>
 >> References
 >>
 >> 1. [3][5][9]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
 >>
 >>
 >> To get on or off this list see list information at
 >> [4][6][10]http://www.cs.dartmouth.
   edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
 >
 > --
 >
 > References
 >
 > 1. mailto:[7][11]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
 > 2. [8][12]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
 > 3. [9][13]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
 > 4. [10][14]http://www.cs.dartmouth.
   edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
 >
 --
  References

   1. [1]mailto:[15]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
   2. [2]mailto:[16]kalei...@gmail.com
   3. [3]mailto:[17]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
   4. [4][18]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
   5. [5][19]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
   6. [6][20]http://www.cs.dartmouth.
 edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
   7. [7]mailto:[21]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
   8. [8][22]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
   9. [9][23]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
  10. [10][24]http://www.cs.dartmouth.
 edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

  --
   References
  1. mailto:[25]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
  2. mailto:[26]kalei...@gmail.com
  3. mailto:[27]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
  4. [28]http

[LUTE] Re: Zarlino, Giuseppe - Quatre livres ou parties des Institutions harmoniques

2017-08-08 Thread G. C.
   What baffles me is what a baroque tablature is doing, applied on a
   renaissance tuning and a french translation of Zarlino in anno 1654 a
   100 years after pub. I thought everyone had gone over to the other side
   by then! :)
   G.
   On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 10:10 PM, Jean-Marie Poirier
   <[1]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:

   Yes but it certainly shows how lutenists could transpose music to their
   instrument and this French translation is 17th century, one century
   after Zarlino published his treatise. Interesting stuff !
   Best,
   Jean-Marie
   > Le 8 août 2017 à 21:24, G. C. <[2]kalei...@gmail.com> a écrit :
   >
   >This was first published in 1558. The original has no tabl. so
   these
   >are examples...
   >The person who copied (and maybe also translated) the italian
   print did
   >a monumental work!
   >G.
   >
   >On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 9:18 PM, Jean-Marie Poirier
   ><[1][3]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
   >
   >  The tablature is just the transcription of the notated parts,
   note
   >  for note, maybe an interesting insight into compositional
   processes
   >  of the time (mid-17th century)...
   >  Jean-Marie
   >  --
   >
   >>Hi
   >>has anyone looked at the lute tablature in this work (in french),
   >or
   >>even read the whole thing?
   >>[1][2][4]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
   >>G.
   >>
   >>--
   >>
   >> References
   >>
   >>1. [3][5]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
   >>
   >>
   >> To get on or off this list see list information at
   >> [4][6]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
   >
   >--
   >
   > References
   >
   >1. mailto:[7]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
   >2. [8]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
   >3. [9]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
   >4. [10]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
   >

   --

References

   1. mailto:jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
   2. mailto:kalei...@gmail.com
   3. mailto:jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
   4. http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
   5. http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
   6. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
   7. mailto:jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
   8. http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
   9. http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
  10. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html



[LUTE] Re: Zarlino, Giuseppe - Quatre livres ou parties des Institutions harmoniques

2017-08-08 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Yes but it certainly shows how lutenists could transpose music to their 
instrument and this French translation is 17th century, one century after 
Zarlino published his treatise. Interesting stuff !
Best, 
Jean-Marie

> Le 8 août 2017 à 21:24, G. C.  a écrit :
> 
>   This was first published in 1558. The original has no tabl. so these
>   are examples...
>   The person who copied (and maybe also translated) the italian print did
>   a monumental work!
>   G.
> 
>   On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 9:18 PM, Jean-Marie Poirier
>   <[1]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> 
> The tablature is just the transcription of the notated parts, note
> for note, maybe an interesting insight into compositional processes
> of the time (mid-17th century)...
> Jean-Marie
> --
> 
>>   Hi
>>   has anyone looked at the lute tablature in this work (in french),
>   or
>>   even read the whole thing?
>>   [1][2]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
>>   G.
>> 
>>   --
>> 
>> References
>> 
>>   1. [3]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
>> 
>> 
>> To get on or off this list see list information at
>> [4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
> 
>   --
> 
> References
> 
>   1. mailto:jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
>   2. http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
>   3. http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
>   4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
> 





[LUTE] Re: Zarlino, Giuseppe - Quatre livres ou parties des Institutions harmoniques

2017-08-08 Thread G. C.
   This was first published in 1558. The original has no tabl. so these
   are examples...
   The person who copied (and maybe also translated) the italian print did
   a monumental work!
   G.

   On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 9:18 PM, Jean-Marie Poirier
   <[1]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:

 The tablature is just the transcription of the notated parts, note
 for note, maybe an interesting insight into compositional processes
 of the time (mid-17th century)...
 Jean-Marie
 --

   >Hi
   >has anyone looked at the lute tablature in this work (in french),
   or
   >even read the whole thing?
   >[1][2]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
   >G.
   >
   >--
   >
   >References
   >
   >1. [3]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
   >
   >
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[LUTE] Re: Zarlino, Giuseppe - Quatre livres ou parties des Institutions harmoniques

2017-08-08 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
The tablature is just the transcription of the notated parts, note for note, 
maybe an interesting insight into compositional processes of the time (mid-17th 
century)...

Jean-Marie


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>   has anyone looked at the lute tablature in this work (in french), or
>   even read the whole thing?
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>   G.
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