José Matos wrote:
On Monday 21 April 2008 10:30:23 Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
By the way, where are we WRT docbook support? Is there anything we can
do to support the request of Chris Karakas who is still using LyX-1.2
apparently?
http://www.karakas-online.de/mySGML/
I
> José Matos wrote:
> > On Monday 21 April 2008 10:30:23 Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
> >
> >> By the way, where are we WRT docbook support? Is there anything we can
> >> do to support the request of Chris Karakas who is still using LyX-1.2
> >> apparent
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I'd be really happy if you could add paragraph or two about DocBook, LyX
etc to this wiki page (I just created it):
http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/DocBook
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very soon. Enjoy!
:-)
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> I'd be really happy if you could add paragraph or two about DocBook, LyX
> etc to this wiki page (I just created it):
>
> http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/DocBook
>
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to your writing needs:
- GUI (LyX), don't bother about SGML.
- Table of Contents,
- cross-references,
- Index,
- Bibliography,
- Mathematics
everything is covered. You press the button, lyxtox does the rest - enjoy! :-)
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a *complete* solution to your writing needs:
- GUI (LyX), don't bother about SGML.
- Table of Contents,
- cross-references,
- Index,
- Bibliography,
- Mathematics
everything is covered. You press the button, lyxtox does the rest - enjoy! :-)
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/mySGML/formats.html
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not work with those scripts. However, you get fine docs as
in:
http://www.karakas-online.de/mySGML/formats.html
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think) in the 1.4.0 tarball, but nothing...
LyX developers seem to be very modest people...
Who are they? Please give me a list to include in the RPM Authors tag - so I
can finally release it to all the eager folks out there. :-)
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/mySGML.lyx
import it, then export it to DocBook and try to pass it through Openjade? ;-)
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ng to the GPL, I
think) in the 1.4.0 tarball, but nothing...
LyX developers seem to be very modest people...
Who are they? Please give me a list to include in the RPM Authors tag - so I
can finally release it to all the eager folks out there. :-)
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you inserted with
Insert->URL) *inside* an SGML environment (which now is ERT), then this is
exported as "^A" istead of "http://www.karakas-online.de/mySGML/mySGML.lyx
import it, then export it to DocBook and try to pass it through Openjade? ;-)
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procedures to support LyX 1.4 (currently it
seems that only LyX 1.2 will work with them).
Any suggestions?
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Am Mittwoch, 15. März 2006 22:01 schrieb Chris Karakas:
Whatever I had written in pure SGML is now exported as if it were normal
text, with becoming /caution, for example.
Do you mean that in 1.2 you can write in normal text and that it
will be output as ? If yes, then the lyx2lyx
was written LyX 1.2, so I
have an interest in extending my procedures to support LyX 1.4 (currently it
seems that only LyX 1.2 will work with them).
Any suggestions?
Chris
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> Am Mittwoch, 15. März 2006 22:01 schrieb Chris Karakas:
>
> > Whatever I had written in pure SGML is now exported as if it were normal
> text, with "" becoming "", for example.
>
> Do you mean that in 1.2 you can write in normal text and that it
>
of Figures and even
Bibliography with RefDB (http://refdb.sourceforge.net) and Mathematics (even in
HTML!) in HTML, PDF, PS, TXT and even RTF - today, here and now. :-)
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ith
images, equations, Table of Contents, Index, List of Figures and even
Bibliography with RefDB (http://refdb.sourceforge.net) and Mathematics (even in
HTML!) in HTML, PDF, PS, TXT and even RTF - today, here and now. :-)
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technical
information, is a great help and would be greatly appreciated.
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Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 02.03.05 16:41:25:
Chris Karakas wrote:
Am I allowed to do it?
Yes, so long as your licence is compatible with the GPL.
Thanks for answering!
GPL you say? Now if only someone could assure me that the statement
GPL is compatible with GFDL
Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 02.03.05 19:05:33:
Chris Karakas wrote:
Now the LyX User's Guide does NOT contain the Disclaimer
This can be added. Use a comment environment or a note inset (depending on
your version of LyX).
I know, but the Disclaimer
t pieces together from other
sources, without having to rephrase just to convey the same technical
information, is a great help and would be greatly appreciated.
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Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 02.03.05 16:41:25:
>
> Chris Karakas wrote:
>
> > Am I allowed to do it?
>
> Yes, so long as your licence is compatible with the GPL.
Thanks for answering!
GPL you say? Now if only someone could assure me that the st
Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 02.03.05 19:05:33:
>
> Chris Karakas wrote:
> >
> > Now the LyX User's Guide does NOT contain the Disclaimer
>
> This can be added. Use a comment environment or a note inset (depending on
> your version of LyX
it into my lyxtox package. I am just saying it here, so we
don't forget it on the way. ;-)
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on
> should I use?
> This is another presentation property which needs to be decided upon
> when the
> document is exported :-(
>
Let the user enter it in a configuration dialog. A sensible default is 100. But
others may use 72, AFAIR it depends on (or it *is*) the dpi of the display you
used to create your images/screenshots. YMMV, that's why it belongs to a
user-entered field.
Note: there is another resolution-related parameter that belongs to
jadetex.cfg, which I discovered lately. It also affects images in PDF... I will
have to incoprporate it into my lyxtox package. I am just saying it here, so we
don't forget it on the way. ;-)
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Ciao.
Ciao.
/Andreas
José Abílio
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Georg Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 12.02.05 18:00:31:
Am Samstag, 12. Februar 2005 15:29 schrieb Chris Karakas:
And please do us a favor: Wrap your lines after 76 characters or so,
otherwise quoted text looks as ugly as in this mail.
Is it not wrapped? I didn't know it. However, I
e for docbook 5.0 to be release
> > > without a dtd? More and more xml is becoming the default.
> >
What for? Where's the point? With DocBook SGML, we already have a procedure,
and we know it works. SGML needs a DTD, so our working procedure needs it too.
Everything else is "furure music", as Germans say. ;-)
We (the users) need a working procedure, now - well, actually yesterday! ;-)
>
> > Ciao
>
> Ciao.
>
Ciao.
> > /Andreas
>
> José Abílio
>
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Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 12.02.05 18:00:31:
>
> Am Samstag, 12. Februar 2005 15:29 schrieb Chris Karakas:
>
> And please do us a favor: Wrap your lines after 76 characters or so,
> otherwise quoted text looks as ugly as in this mail.
>
Is it no
strings, so that my webmail
does not interprete them as real entities and filters them out.
But I am sure you understand what I meant. ;-)
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, URL texts etc. should stay in english?
PS. That's no accusation. I am just trying to understand what will be possible
and what not with the current state of affairs in LyX 1.4.0.
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abels and texts,
how are you going to know that a "&" is a real "&" and
not part of an "entity delimiter", as in "& lt ;"? You will end
up trying to emulate an SGML parser, which is really not
LyX' job.
Note: I have inserted blanks in my strings, so that my webmail
does not interprete them as real entities and filters them out.
But I am sure you understand what I meant. ;-)
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hinese. What shall I tell them?
That labels, URL texts etc. should stay in english?
PS. That's no accusation. I am just trying to understand what will be possible
and what not with the current state of affairs in LyX 1.4.0.
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and that the user can change it
by using the graphical layout editor.
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format
2. Document settings
3. none (edit .layout file manually)
4. .layout file editor
It's O.K., we have a deal. ;-)
Of course you may leave the layout editor for later (but I hope not for never to be
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uld rather tweak some option in a
graphical dialog.
Then, for every change that is done by LyX (in labels, names, whatever),
add a Warning that says what LyX did and that the user can change it
by using the graphical layout editor.
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uld define a "nonmangled"
> Docbook format
> 2. Document settings
> 3. none (edit .layout file manually)
> 4. .layout file editor
>
It's O.K., we have a deal. ;-)
Of course you may leave the layout editor for later (but I hope not for "never to be
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Andreas Vox [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 18.10.04 22:30:09:
Chris Karakas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I suggest to leave validation to validating parsers, or,
if you want to validate, then use an external one,
Unfortunately it's not about validating but about producing parsable DocBook
into account the user's choices)
decide this.
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is the way it was! Labels have changed and so have the
filenames too!
And why all this? Because LyX thinks it must correct my labels
and impose his view of correctness on my names.
This can't be the right thing.
Leave it to the SGML parser. The parser will complain - if it has to.
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dependencies
5.) BMP files for RTF export
6.) Bitmap files for Web export
7.) other converters
But I'm sure there are other opinions.
That's O.K. with me. As long as I have the options, I can live fine with that.
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José Abílio Oliveira Matos [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 19.10.04 13:32:21:
On Tue, Oct 19, 2004 at 01:12:47PM +0200, Chris Karakas wrote:
- Somebody in the DocBook committee decided that underscore is out.
First I understand your point, second the problem is precisely the
opposite
is acceptable for me. But please don't make the setting
enforce standard SGML/XML ids the default one! ;-)
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.layout file to include CNAME=.:_ that would be
the default for the second input field.
I disagree on the default. ;-)
But other than that, the solution looks perfect to me.
I can survive that default, so you have green light to implement it. :-)
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to do the
parser's job, so nobody should be impressed that it is going to
need some parser's options in its dialogs.
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Andreas Vox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 18.10.04 22:30:09:
>
> Chris Karakas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I suggest to leave validation to validating parsers, or,
> if you want to validate, then use an external one,
>
> Unfortunately it's not
t is a question of producing legal code, we use the
> same trick for latex, for identical reasons.
>
Let the user's SGML parser (who will take into account the user's choices)
decide this.
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ill complain - if it has to.
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es to produce PS without Ghostscript dependencies
> 5.) BMP files for RTF export
> 6.) Bitmap files for Web export
> 7.) other converters
>
> But I'm sure there are other opinions.
That's O.K. with me. As long as I have the options, I can live fine with that.
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José Abílio Oliveira Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 19.10.04 13:32:21:
>
> On Tue, Oct 19, 2004 at 01:12:47PM +0200, Chris Karakas wrote:
> >
> > - Somebody in the DocBook committee decided that underscore is "out".
>
> First I understand you
ndard label, so I never minded that
"sec:blabla" is illegal.
Your solution is acceptable for me. But please don't make the setting
"enforce standard SGML/XML ids" the default one! ;-)
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, if I would not have to tweak cryptic files,
but could insert my special characters in some dialog. But I can live with
the file solution too, for the moment.
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looks perfect to me.
I can survive that default, so you have green light to implement it. :-)
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tions belong to LyX dialogs?
But then, why should LyX mess up with DocBook options through
its ID mangling? As I see it, it is LyX which is trying to "do the
parser's job", so nobody should be impressed that it is going to
need some "parser's options" in its dialogs.
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Andreas Vox [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 18.10.04 18:24:31:
Chris Karakas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Note that for PDF output via SGML and pdfjadetex,
you need an EPS file with the .pdf ending!
You are kidding, don't you mean epdf ??
Sorry, sorry...I am recovering from a party
$y
convert $y.png $y.bmp
done
which uses addd and convert to produce all versions of images files with the ending $1
(the first parameter to the script).
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to reinvent the wheel. SGML can be quite tricky at this
- and that was a reason that led to XML, namely that parsing SGML can be a challenge
to program.
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karakas-online.de/mySGML/explain-figures.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook-apps/26/msg00053.html
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e sensible, default
scripts that do the job.
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Andreas Vox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 18.10.04 18:24:31:
>
> Chris Karakas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Note that for PDF output via SGML and pdfjadetex,
> > you need an EPS file with the .pdf ending!
>
> You are kidding, don't you mean epd
mats"), maybe through a radio-button dialog in the
preferences. LyX could then run some script like
#! /bin/sh
for x in `ls *.$1`; do
y=`basename $x .$1`
convert $y.$1 $y.png
addd $y
convert $y.png $y.bmp
done
which uses addd and convert to produce all versions of images files with the ending $1
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allowed in value of attribute ID
http://www.karakas-online.de/forum/viewtopic.php?t=872
I suggest to leave validation to validating parsers, or, if you want to validate, then
use an external one, don't try to reinvent the wheel. SGML can be quite tricky at this
- and that was a reason that led to XML, namely that parsing SGML can be a challenge
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knowleadge of the document
strucutre.
Not sure what you mean here (where will you add the hints?), but it looks like a good
idea anyway. :-)
I will look into bugzilla probably tomorrow. Please note that I will be in vacation in
September.
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it to export to SGML (DocBook), then use Openjade
to convert to TeX and from there hopefully tex2lyx will take care... Didn't test it
though.
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the forms of comments so that the lyxtox
> script gets smaller and takes advantage of lyx knowleadge of the document
> strucutre.
>
Not sure what you mean here (where will you add the hints?), but it looks like a good
idea anyway. :-)
I will look into bugzilla probably tomorrow. Pleas
around
$3,000... :-D ). Maybe you could use it to export to SGML (DocBook), then use Openjade
to convert to TeX and from there hopefully tex2lyx will take care... Didn't test it
though.
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Jose' Matos [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 06.07.04 20:11:51:
On Sunday 04 July 2004 14:47, Chris Karakas wrote:
...
I use the sgmltools variant and I get that effect - i.e. all 's become
their entities, even if they are at the start of an entity...
I am starting to suspect sgmltools
"Jose' Matos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 06.07.04 20:11:51:
>
> On Sunday 04 July 2004 14:47, Chris Karakas wrote:
> ...
> > I use the sgmltools variant and I get that effect - i.e. all &'s become
> > their entities, even if they are at the st
Jose' Matos [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 02.07.04 17:29:41:
On Friday 02 July 2004 15:59, Chris Karakas wrote:
Regarding the , I have a problem (unrelated to math and equations): if I
leave it as amp ; in the SGML text, it becomes amp ; amp ; (being
displayed as amp ; in the browser
"Jose' Matos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 02.07.04 17:29:41:
>
> On Friday 02 July 2004 15:59, Chris Karakas wrote:
> >
> > Regarding the &, I have a problem (unrelated to math and equations): if I
> > leave it as "& amp ;" in the
for the SGML/XML exported document? That is, can you offer the
possibility to misuse a (referable) element like example with example
role=theorem id=thm-5.3-15? Or is there a better way to handle this?
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ssible. How do I get this with LyX and DocBook? Can you offer such
functionality for the SGML/XML exported document? That is, can you offer the
possibility to "misuse" a (referable) element like "example" with "< example
role="theorem" id="thm-5.3-15">"? Or is there a better way to handle this?
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Jose' Matos wrote:
On Wednesday 19 May 2004 02:30, Chris Karakas wrote:
Hello Jose',
regarding the CDATA or not CDATA inside equations if I try to insert an
inequality inside the equation the docbook output is:
...
alt \[
E mc^{2} \]
/ alt
...
without the CDATA jade
in
http://www.karakas-online.de/mySGML/
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Jose' Matos wrote:
> On Wednesday 19 May 2004 02:30, Chris Karakas wrote:
>
Hello Jose',
>
> regarding the CDATA or not CDATA inside equations if I try to insert an
> inequality inside the equation the docbook output is:
> ...
> < alt >\[
> E< mc^{2} \]
&g
es under
LyX, check my method described in
http://www.karakas-online.de/mySGML/
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=860
(Jose, I'm also waiting for your answer in that thread too ;-) ).
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xt in my list:
http://www.karakas-online.de/forum/viewtopic.php?t=860
(Jose, I'm also waiting for your answer in that thread too ;-) ).
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... .lyx-1.4.0cvs and so on.
Is your .lyx then a symlink to the right directory?
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sions at the same time I
> have .lyx-1.3... .lyx-1.4.0cvs and so on.
>
Is your .lyx then a symlink to the right directory?
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e a
problem of 1.2.0...I'll have to check with a test system - may take some time till I
set it up.
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there. ;-)
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to choose which one of the
two tags should be used for the LyX Code environment when it is exported to DocBook:
programlisting, or screen.
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a new problem then. See you there. ;-)
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be used for the LyX "Code" environment when it is exported to DocBook:
programlisting, or screen.
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, it is
nevertheles wrong to output a before .
I propose to delete the elements that enclose a inside a .
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www.karakas-online.de/mySGML/awkscr_math,
see also http://www.karakas-online.de/mySGML/magic-behind-the-math.html ), or give the
user full control on every equation about how it should be exported to DocBook (with
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goes for the other elements accordingly. I think that's enough work for the
moment. ;-)
Thank you very much for your efforts José - we are building a fantastic application
here!
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in that thread too. ;-)
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Some table title
...
The same goes for the other elements accordingly. I think that's enough work for the
moment. ;-)
Thank you very much for your efforts José - we are building a fantastic application
here!
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