Re: multiline equations no longer working right either

2001-05-23 Thread Herbert Voss
Andre Poenitz wrote: (2) Most users just don't know about amsmath and what it does. For example, in normal latex, if you have a numbered equation that is too wide, the equation will overwrite the equation number. However, if you include amsmath, the equation number will be moved down.

Re: multiline equations no longer working right either

2001-05-23 Thread Andre Poenitz
remember that there is a button use amsmath in layout-document-extra ;-) To be honest, I have not used anything from the menus except the file menu since 1.0.4 or so from my point of view this should be important! with this option all the ams-mathstuff can be used and otherwise not (if

Re: multiline equations no longer working right either

2001-05-23 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | remember that there is a button use amsmath in layout-document-extra | ;-) | | To be honest, I have not used anything from the menus except the file | menu since 1.0.4 or so | | from my point of view this should be important! with this option all |

Re: multiline equations no longer working right either

2001-05-23 Thread Andre Poenitz
| If ams is selected, Ctrl-Enter splits into \align, otherwise into \eqnarray | (Not that I know where to find this kind of information, but | anyway...) I'd rather remove that button, and just require ams for certain features. Ok.. which goes back to the original question: Can we assume

Re: multiline equations no longer working right either

2001-05-23 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | If ams is selected, Ctrl-Enter splits into \align, otherwise into \eqnarray | | (Not that I know where to find this kind of information, but | | anyway...) | | I'd rather remove that button, and just require ams for certain | features. | | Ok..

Re: multiline equations no longer working right either

2001-05-23 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Andre == Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | If ams is selected, Ctrl-Enter splits into \align, otherwise into \eqnarray | (Not that I know where to find this kind of information, but | anyway...) I'd rather remove that button, and just require ams for certain features. Andre Ok..

Re: multiline equations no longer working right either

2001-05-23 Thread Herbert Voss
On 23 May 2001, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: total 20 drwxr-xr-x 4 289 120 512 Apr 6 2000 amslatex drwxr-xr-x 2 289 120 3072 Apr 15 06:52 babel drwxr-xr-x 2 289 120 512 Aug 31 2000 cyrillic drwxr-xr-x 2 289 120 512 Aug 31

Re: multiline equations no longer working right either

2001-05-23 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Herbert == Herbert Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Herbert amslatex is not amsmath! amsmath is in Herbert /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/amsmath/ So, what is in amslatex/math/ on CTAN? I'm not discussing teTeX hierarchy, but CTAN. JMarc

Re: multiline equations no longer working right either

2001-05-23 Thread dochawk
Andre admitted, I think in the end we can have both, getting eqnarray by M-m t e and align by M-m t a ('t' like 'type') with entrys for both in the menus. But I don't know anything about the concerned religions so maybe this would be Wrong. I'm an agnostic here, but I just don't see

Re: multiline equations no longer working right either

2001-05-23 Thread Andre Poenitz
I'm an agnostic here, but I just don't see where to put my [in]equality type operator without a middle column . . . Looks like it goes to the right column. Which looks ugly if operators in different lines are of different size as some people pointed out. On the other hand, if they are of the

Re: multiline equations no longer working right either

2001-05-23 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 10:20:42AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bj?nnes wrote: Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | If ams is selected, Ctrl-Enter splits into \align, otherwise into \eqnarray | | (Not that I know where to find this kind of information, but | | anyway...) | | I'd rather

Re: multiline equations no longer working right either

2001-05-23 Thread Herbert Voss
Andre Poenitz wrote: > > > (2) Most users just don't know about amsmath and what it does. For > > example, in normal latex, if you have a numbered equation that is too > > wide, the equation will overwrite the equation number. However, if you > > include amsmath, the equation number will be

Re: multiline equations no longer working right either

2001-05-23 Thread Andre Poenitz
> remember that there is a button "use amsmath" in layout->document->extra > ;-) To be honest, I have not used anything from the menus except the file menu since 1.0.4 or so > from my point of view this should be important! with this option all > the ams-mathstuff can be used and otherwise not

Re: multiline equations no longer working right either

2001-05-23 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > remember that there is a button "use amsmath" in layout->document->extra | > ;-) | | To be honest, I have not used anything from the menus except the file | menu since 1.0.4 or so | | > from my point of view this should be important! with this

Re: multiline equations no longer working right either

2001-05-23 Thread Andre Poenitz
> | If ams is selected, Ctrl-Enter splits into \align, otherwise into \eqnarray > | (Not that I know where to find this kind of information, but > | anyway...) > > I'd rather remove that button, and just require ams for certain > features. Ok.. which goes back to the original question: Can we

Re: multiline equations no longer working right either

2001-05-23 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > | If ams is selected, Ctrl-Enter splits into \align, otherwise into \eqnarray | > | (Not that I know where to find this kind of information, but | > | anyway...) | > | > I'd rather remove that button, and just require ams for certain | > features. |

Re: multiline equations no longer working right either

2001-05-23 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> | If ams is selected, Ctrl-Enter splits into \align, otherwise into >> \eqnarray | (Not that I know where to find this kind of >> information, but | anyway...) >> >> I'd rather remove that button, and just require ams for certain >>

Re: multiline equations no longer working right either

2001-05-23 Thread Herbert Voss
On 23 May 2001, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > total 20 > drwxr-xr-x 4 289 120 512 Apr 6 2000 amslatex > drwxr-xr-x 2 289 120 3072 Apr 15 06:52 babel > drwxr-xr-x 2 289 120 512 Aug 31 2000 cyrillic > drwxr-xr-x 2 289 120 512 Aug

Re: multiline equations no longer working right either

2001-05-23 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Herbert" == Herbert Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Herbert> amslatex is not amsmath! amsmath is in Herbert> /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/amsmath/ So, what is in amslatex/math/ on CTAN? I'm not discussing teTeX hierarchy, but CTAN. JMarc

Re: multiline equations no longer working right either

2001-05-23 Thread dochawk
Andre admitted, > I think in the end we can have both, getting eqnarray by M-m t e and > align by M-m t a ('t' like 'type') with entrys for both in the menus. > But I don't know anything about the concerned religions so maybe this would > be Wrong. I'm an agnostic here, but I just don't see

Re: multiline equations no longer working right either

2001-05-23 Thread Andre Poenitz
> I'm an agnostic here, but I just don't see where to put my [in]equality > type operator without a middle column . . . Looks like it goes to the right column. Which looks ugly if operators in different lines are of different size as some people pointed out. On the other hand, if they are of

Re: multiline equations no longer working right either

2001-05-23 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 10:20:42AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bj?nnes wrote: > Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > | > | If ams is selected, Ctrl-Enter splits into \align, otherwise into \eqnarray > | > | (Not that I know where to find this kind of information, but > | > | anyway...) > | > >

Re: multiline equations no longer working right either

2001-05-22 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Dekel == Dekel Tsur [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dekel On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 01:41:47PM -0400, Richard E. Hawkins Dekel wrote: I seem to get a 2x2 equation array (whatever that is) instead of a 2x3 multiline equation when using ctrl-enter in an equation. Is this a side effect, or is this

Re: multiline equations no longer working right either

2001-05-22 Thread Andre Poenitz
Dekel This is intentional: LyX now uses the align env. instead of Dekel eqnarray. If you want eqnarray, use Edit-Math-Make eqnarray. Dekel It is also possible to return to previous behavior by putting Dekel bind C-Return break-line e in your bind file. As was said before, I really think we

Re: multiline equations no longer working right either

2001-05-22 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Andre == Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andre Maybe the both of you could work out some kind of consensus. Yes, probably... Andre I think in the end we can have both, getting eqnarray by M-m t Andre e and align by M-m t a ('t' like 'type') with entrys for both Andre in the menus. But

Re: multiline equations no longer working right either

2001-05-22 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 09:02:43AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Andre == Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andre Maybe the both of you could work out some kind of consensus. Yes, probably... Andre I think in the end we can have both, getting eqnarray by M-m t Andre e and

Re: multiline equations no longer working right either

2001-05-22 Thread Herbert Voss
Dekel Tsur wrote: On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 09:02:43AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Andre == Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andre Maybe the both of you could work out some kind of consensus. Yes, probably... Andre I think in the end we can have both, getting

Re: multiline equations no longer working right either

2001-05-22 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 10:53:29AM +0200, Herbert Voss wrote: I think that the improvement you gain by using align (e.g. no ugly spaces) justifies to make it the default. In my opinion, people should use align instead of eqnarray. If we change C-return to create an eqnarray, most users

Re: multiline equations no longer working right either

2001-05-22 Thread Andre Poenitz
(2) Most users just don't know about amsmath and what it does. For example, in normal latex, if you have a numbered equation that is too wide, the equation will overwrite the equation number. However, if you include amsmath, the equation number will be moved down. So it could be argued

Re: multiline equations no longer working right either

2001-05-22 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Dekel" == Dekel Tsur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Dekel> On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 01:41:47PM -0400, Richard E. Hawkins Dekel> wrote: >> I seem to get a 2x2 equation array (whatever that is) instead of a >> 2x3 multiline equation when using ctrl-enter in an equation. >> >> Is this a side

Re: multiline equations no longer working right either

2001-05-22 Thread Andre Poenitz
> Dekel> This is intentional: LyX now uses the align env. instead of > Dekel> eqnarray. If you want eqnarray, use Edit->Math->Make eqnarray. > Dekel> It is also possible to return to previous behavior by putting > Dekel> bind "C-Return" "break-line e" in your bind file. > > As was said before, I

Re: multiline equations no longer working right either

2001-05-22 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Andre> Maybe the both of you could work out some kind of consensus. Yes, probably... Andre> I think in the end we can have both, getting eqnarray by M-m t Andre> e and align by M-m t a ('t' like 'type') with entrys for both Andre> in

Re: multiline equations no longer working right either

2001-05-22 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 09:02:43AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Andre> Maybe the both of you could work out some kind of consensus. > > Yes, probably... > > Andre> I think in the end we can have both, getting eqnarray by

Re: multiline equations no longer working right either

2001-05-22 Thread Herbert Voss
Dekel Tsur wrote: > > On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 09:02:43AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > > "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Andre> Maybe the both of you could work out some kind of consensus. > > > > Yes, probably... > > > > Andre> I think in the end we can

Re: multiline equations no longer working right either

2001-05-22 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 10:53:29AM +0200, Herbert Voss wrote: > > I think that the improvement you gain by using align (e.g. no ugly spaces) > > justifies to make it the default. In my opinion, people should use align > > instead of eqnarray. If we change C-return to create an eqnarray, > > most

Re: multiline equations no longer working right either

2001-05-22 Thread Andre Poenitz
> (2) Most users just don't know about amsmath and what it does. For > example, in normal latex, if you have a numbered equation that is too > wide, the equation will overwrite the equation number. However, if you > include amsmath, the equation number will be moved down. So it could be >

Re: multiline equations no longer working right either

2001-05-21 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 01:41:47PM -0400, Richard E. Hawkins wrote: I seem to get a 2x2 equation array (whatever that is) instead of a 2x3 multiline equation when using ctrl-enter in an equation. Is this a side effect, or is this the way it's syupposed to be? This is intentional: LyX

Re: multiline equations no longer working right either

2001-05-21 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 01:41:47PM -0400, Richard E. Hawkins wrote: > > I seem to get a 2x2 equation array (whatever that is) instead of a 2x3 > multiline equation when using ctrl-enter in an equation. > > Is this a side effect, or is this the way it's syupposed to be? This is intentional: