Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-22 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
John == John Weiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 08:46:37PM +0100, Dr. Ing. Dieter John Jurzitza wrote: What about defining such things in a header by newcommand and changing it by changing the declaration of newcommand? I. e. say \newcommand{\leftquote}{\glqq} for

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-22 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Juergen == Juergen Spitzmueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Juergen Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: Here is a list of international quotation marks. Juergen And here's the translation :-) Great! What about inner quotes, now? And what does 'only for major quote sizes' mean? JMarc

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-22 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Juergen == Juergen Vigna [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Juergen Why not be able to change document-wide the style of the Juergen quote itself? The default style could be bound to a language, Juergen but then I may have a forced style to use some specila type Juergen of quotes also while using that

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-22 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Great! What about inner quotes, now? Unfortunately I don't know :-( I found this list via Google and just translated it, there was no information about inner quotes available. But since the list doesn't feature all languages of LyX: How about sending this list to

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-22 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Juergen == Juergen Spitzmueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Juergen Unfortunately I don't know :-( I found this list via Google Juergen and just translated it, there was no information about inner Juergen quotes available. It is already very useful. Juergen But since the list doesn't feature

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-22 Thread Gilles Pérez-Lambert
Hello, I don't know if I can say something (since I'm not a developer) but: À (At) 11:36 +0100 22/11/2001, Juergen Spitzmueller écrivait (wrote) : Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: Here is a list of international quotation marks. And here's the translation :-) And some comments (with TeX-like

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-22 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Juergen But since the list doesn't feature all languages of LyX: How Juergen about sending this list to the translators (and maybe to Juergen lyx-users) so they can comment (on inner quotes), correct and Juergen add? I'll do that once I have a framework in place.

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-22 Thread Jules Bean
On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 03:06:10PM +0100, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: E..g.: People talking a lot about ,War against Terrorism`these days. (irritating, isn't it? ;-) They're called scare quotes in English. Overuse is frowned up by the powers that be, I think. Jules

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-22 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Juergen == Juergen Spitzmueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Juergen ,,quote`` is more common, this should be the default IMHO. OK. Juergen No, it's used outside quotations. If I do not quote from a Juergen source. Its function could be described as: I use a term with Juergen which I do not

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-22 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: And in a text which uses blah as inner quotes, will you still use ,foo` as distance marker? No. Only one kind of quotes for one document. Note that I do not plan to automatically detect that a quote is inside another quote, since this would be horrible and would

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-22 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Juergen == Juergen Spitzmueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Juergen Yes, that's all we need! That would be enough for both Juergen versions. Forget about automatic inner quotes. At the end Juergen it's all very easy ;-) I'll probably need some help for the dialogs, though :) JMarc

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-22 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: I'll probably need some help for the dialogs, though :) If you are patient with me ;-) And you have to calm down Jug, who's still waiting for the enhanced tabular dialog :-( [In fact, I do not really find the time to do that at the moment, because I have to

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-22 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 22-Nov-2001 Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: If you are patient with me ;-) And you have to calm down Jug, who's still waiting for the enhanced tabular dialog :-( [In fact, I do not really find the time to do that at the moment, because I have to understand the tabular inset first. If

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-22 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Juergen == Juergen Spitzmueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Juergen Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: I'll probably need some help for the dialogs, though :) Juergen If you are patient with me ;-) Nothing is written yet, so you hae plenty of time :) JMarc

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-22 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Gilles == Gilles Pérez-Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Gilles Hello, I don't know if I can say something (since I'm not a Gilles developer) but: You are certainly welcome. Gilles And some comments (with TeX-like notation for quotes) for the Gilles language I know and (typographically) use

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-22 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Juergen Vigna wrote: Well let's see the .fd file It's not very amazing. I have added the longtable header's/footer's options and reordered column type and entry type as suggested by Dekel (maybe the dialog should be enlarged a little bit). There I have added a checkbox Use Fixed Width, which

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-22 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Garst == Garst R Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Garst Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: yet (BTW are magyar and hungarian the same things?). Garst According to babel.sty, yes. Garst DeclareOption{hungarian}{input{\magyar.ldf}} Garst DeclareOption{magyar}{input{\magyar.ldf}} Garst Thanks. JMarc

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-22 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 22-Nov-2001 Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: It's not very amazing. I have added the longtable header's/footer's options and reordered column type and entry type as suggested by Dekel (maybe the dialog should be enlarged a little bit). There I have added a checkbox Use Fixed Width, which

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-22 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Juergen Vigna wrote: I like it! Good! I'll have a look if I can add it to the codebase, as always as soon as I find some time ;) and noone beats me in doing it ;) Thank you. Very kind! Jug P.S.: We only have a Last Footer not a First Footer (copypaste bug? ;) You have caught me

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-22 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Andre Poenitz wrote: I never heard of ,distance markers` either... It's a linguistic term. Sorry, I forgot that it is not common outside my business. But I guess you know the function, don't you? Jürgen. Andre'

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-22 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "John" == John Weiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: John> On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 08:46:37PM +0100, Dr. Ing. Dieter John> Jurzitza wrote: >> What about defining such things in a header by newcommand and >> changing it by changing the declaration of newcommand? I. e. say >>

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-22 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Juergen" == Juergen Spitzmueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Juergen> Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: >> Here is a list of international quotation marks. Juergen> And here's the translation :-) Great! What about inner quotes, now? And what does 'only for major quote sizes' mean? JMarc

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-22 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Juergen" == Juergen Vigna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Juergen> Why not be able to change document-wide the style of the Juergen> quote itself? The default style could be bound to a language, Juergen> but then I may have a forced style to use some specila type Juergen> of quotes also while

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-22 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Great! What about inner quotes, now? Unfortunately I don't know :-( I found this list via Google and just translated it, there was no information about inner quotes available. But since the list doesn't feature all languages of LyX: How about sending this list to

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-22 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Juergen" == Juergen Spitzmueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Juergen> Unfortunately I don't know :-( I found this list via Google Juergen> and just translated it, there was no information about inner Juergen> quotes available. It is already very useful. Juergen> But since the list

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-22 Thread Gilles Pérez-Lambert
Hello, I don't know if I can say something (since I'm not a developer) but: À (At) 11:36 +0100 22/11/2001, Juergen Spitzmueller écrivait (wrote) : >Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: >> Here is a list of international quotation marks. > >And here's the translation :-) And some comments (with

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-22 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Juergen> But since the list doesn't feature all languages of LyX: How > Juergen> about sending this list to the translators (and maybe to > Juergen> lyx-users) so they can comment (on inner quotes), correct > and Juergen> add? > > I'll do that once I have a framework

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-22 Thread Jules Bean
On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 03:06:10PM +0100, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: > E..g.: People talking a lot about ,War against Terrorism`these days. > (irritating, isn't it? ;-) They're called scare quotes in English. Overuse is frowned up by the powers that be, I think. Jules

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-22 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Juergen" == Juergen Spitzmueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Juergen> ,,quote`` is more common, this should be the default IMHO. OK. Juergen> No, it's used outside quotations. If I do not quote from a Juergen> source. Its function could be described as: I use a term with Juergen> which

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-22 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > And in a text which uses >blah< as inner quotes, will you still use > ,foo` as "distance marker"? No. Only one kind of quotes for one document. > Note that I do not plan to automatically detect that a quote is > inside another quote, since this would be horrible

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-22 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Juergen" == Juergen Spitzmueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Juergen> Yes, that's all we need! That would be enough for both Juergen> versions. Forget about automatic inner quotes. At the end Juergen> it's all very easy ;-) I'll probably need some help for the dialogs, though :) JMarc

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-22 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > I'll probably need some help for the dialogs, though :) If you are patient with me ;-) And you have to calm down Jug, who's still waiting for the enhanced tabular dialog :-( [In fact, I do not really find the time to do that at the moment, because I have to

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-22 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 22-Nov-2001 Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: > If you are patient with me ;-) > And you have to calm down Jug, who's still waiting for the enhanced > tabular dialog :-( [In fact, I do not really find the time to do that > at the moment, because I have to understand the tabular inset first. If

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-22 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Juergen" == Juergen Spitzmueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Juergen> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> I'll probably need some help for the dialogs, though :) Juergen> If you are patient with me ;-) Nothing is written yet, so you hae plenty of time :) JMarc

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-22 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Gilles" == Gilles Pérez-Lambert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Gilles> Hello, I don't know if I can say something (since I'm not a Gilles> developer) but: You are certainly welcome. Gilles> And some comments (with TeX-like notation for quotes) for the Gilles> language I know and

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-22 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Juergen Vigna wrote: > Well let's see the .fd file It's not very amazing. I have added the longtable header's/footer's options and reordered column type and entry type as suggested by Dekel (maybe the dialog should be enlarged a little bit). There I have added a checkbox "Use Fixed Width",

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-22 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Garst" == Garst R Reese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Garst> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> yet (BTW are magyar and hungarian the same things?). Garst> According to babel.sty, yes. Garst> DeclareOption{hungarian}{input{\magyar.ldf}} Garst> DeclareOption{magyar}{input{\magyar.ldf}} Garst

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-22 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 22-Nov-2001 Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: > It's not very amazing. > I have added the longtable header's/footer's options and reordered > column type and entry type as suggested by Dekel (maybe the dialog > should be enlarged a little bit). There I have added a checkbox "Use > Fixed Width",

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-22 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Juergen Vigna wrote: > I like it! Good! > I'll have a look if I can add it to the codebase, as always as soon > as I find some time ;) and noone beats me in doing it ;) Thank you. Very kind! >Jug > > P.S.: We only have a "Last Footer" not a "First Footer" (copy > bug? ;) You have

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-22 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Andre Poenitz wrote: > I never heard of ,distance markers` either... It's a linguistic term. Sorry, I forgot that it is not common outside my business. But I guess you know the function, don't you? Jürgen. > Andre'

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-21 Thread John Weiss
On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 08:46:37PM +0100, Dr. Ing. Dieter Jurzitza wrote: What about defining such things in a header by newcommand and changing it by changing the declaration of newcommand? I. e. say \newcommand{\leftquote}{\glqq} for german double left style and

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-21 Thread John Weiss
On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 08:46:37PM +0100, Dr. Ing. Dieter Jurzitza wrote: > What about defining such things in a header by newcommand and > changing it by changing the declaration of newcommand? I. e. say > \newcommand{\leftquote}{\glqq} for german double left style and >

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-20 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Dieter == Ing Dieter Jurzitza [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dieter Dear listmembers, I have a question about quotation marks (LyX Dieter 1.1.6 fix2). My wife told me that she got mad when trying to Dieter change the style of quotation marks, she marked all and tried Dieter to change the style and

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-20 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 09:04:46PM +0100, Dr. Ing. Dieter Jurzitza wrote: Dear listmembers, I have a question about quotation marks (LyX 1.1.6 fix2). My wife told me that she got mad when trying to change the style of quotation marks, she marked all and tried to change the style and nothing

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-20 Thread Dr. Ing. Dieter Jurzitza
Dear Listmembers, for me, I am fine with using another editor. By the way, this would rise again the question about LyX or not LyX. But not for my wife. And also, opening another editor for search and replace - a non-option (for her). What about defining such things in a header by newcommand and

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-20 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Dieter" == Ing Dieter Jurzitza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Dieter> Dear listmembers, I have a question about quotation marks (LyX Dieter> 1.1.6 fix2). My wife told me that she got mad when trying to Dieter> change the style of quotation marks, she marked all and tried Dieter> to change

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-20 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 09:04:46PM +0100, Dr. Ing. Dieter Jurzitza wrote: > Dear listmembers, > I have a question about quotation marks (LyX 1.1.6 fix2). My wife told me that > she got mad when trying to change the style of quotation marks, she marked all > and tried to change the style and

Re: quotation marks ...

2001-11-20 Thread Dr. Ing. Dieter Jurzitza
Dear Listmembers, for me, I am fine with using another editor. By the way, this would rise again the question about LyX or not LyX. But not for my wife. And also, opening another editor for search and replace - a non-option (for her). What about defining such things in a header by newcommand and