Re: Why docs don't get updated very often Re: asciitilde binding bug

2001-05-30 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Mike == [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mike This brought up the idea of an Errata section on Mike the Web. At least we can collect the current inconsistencies and Mike make them known there, so the Users don't get totally frustrated Mike with the current situation. Note also that a good place to

RE: Why docs don't get updated very often Re: asciitilde binding

2001-05-30 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 29-May-2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps it's time for an Errata page on the Web. Anyone with Web CVS access willing to lead the charge? Good we have the doc-team working again ;) IMO we should really try to update the documentation a bit regarding all the new and changed stuff from

Re: Why docs don't get updated very often Re: asciitilde binding bug

2001-05-30 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | I also had a few ideas on how to simplify somewhat the documenter's | work, like an inset that displays the keybinding of a given function, | or even the menu entry corresponding to this lyxfunc. I guess this | could help getting the doc up to

Re: Why docs don't get updated very often Re: asciitilde binding bug

2001-05-30 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Lars == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lars Even if this inset would seemingly make things easier I do not Lars quite agree with it. IMO the bindings are not athorative, the Lars lyxfuns are. So the bindings can be referenced in the main text, Lars but the main focus should be on

Re: Why docs don't get updated very often Re: asciitilde binding bug

2001-05-30 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Lars == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | Lars Even if this inset would seemingly make things easier I do not | Lars quite agree with it. IMO the bindings are not athorative, the | Lars lyxfuns are. So the bindings can be

Re: Why docs don't get updated very often Re: asciitilde binding bug

2001-05-30 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Lars == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lars Sure menus are for _loosers_! The idea I had for menus was to subclass a non-editable version of insettext (does this exist) so that a small insettext (with underlines at the right place and nice menu separators and maybe even the sans

Re: Why docs don't get updated very often Re: asciitilde binding

2001-05-30 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 30-May-2001 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: The idea I had for menus was to subclass a non-editable version of insettext (does this exist) so that a small insettext (with underlines at the right place and nice menu separators and maybe even the sans serif font) would be created on the fly.

Re: Why docs don't get updated very often Re: asciitilde binding

2001-05-30 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Juergen == Juergen Vigna [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Juergen I don't get to what exactly you need, but surely one can make Juergen a MenuInset based on InsetText and not Editable. Doing an inset for key bindings is easy, since it will just contain plain text. For a menu, it will be more

Re: Why docs don't get updated very often Re: asciitilde binding

2001-05-30 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 30-May-2001 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Juergen == Juergen Vigna [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Juergen I don't get to what exactly you need, but surely one can make Juergen a MenuInset based on InsetText and not Editable. Doing an inset for key bindings is easy, since it will just contain

Re: Why docs don't get updated very often Re: asciitilde binding

2001-05-30 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Juergen == Juergen Vigna [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Juergen Well yes this should be possible, but I still don't get what Juergen you really want to do with it! The idea would be, in the docs, to do an M-x menuinset-insert lyx-quit and have a nice box on the screen showing _File_Quit. This

Re: Why docs don't get updated very often Re: asciitilde binding

2001-05-30 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Juergen == Juergen Vigna [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | Juergen Well yes this should be possible, but I still don't get what | Juergen you really want to do with it! | | The idea would be, in the docs, to do an | M-x menuinset-insert lyx-quit

Re: Why docs don't get updated very often Re: asciitilde binding

2001-05-30 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Lars == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lars Won't InsetText be a bit overkill for this? Lars This is closer to InsetLabel... For the case of a key binding, insettext is not needed (and I did not plan to use it). But if I want to do some formatting, it seems to me that insttext

Re: Why docs don't get updated very often Re: asciitilde binding

2001-05-30 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Lars == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | Lars Won't InsetText be a bit overkill for this? | | Lars This is closer to InsetLabel... | | For the case of a key binding, insettext is not needed (and I did not | plan to use it).

Re: Why docs don't get updated very often Re: asciitilde binding

2001-05-30 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Lars == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lars I still think InsetText is too complex for that use. We should Lars rather create a InsetMbox variant... Do we have an InsetMBox? JMarc

Re: Why docs don't get updated very often Re: asciitilde binding

2001-05-30 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Lars == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | Lars I still think InsetText is too complex for that use. We should | Lars rather create a InsetMbox variant... | | Do we have an InsetMBox? No but we should perhaps create one... --

Re: Why docs don't get updated very often Re: asciitilde binding

2001-05-30 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Lars == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lars No but we should perhaps create one... And what would that be exactly? More to the point, what is the problem with subclassing insettext? Just that you feel it is not right? I do not see speed or memeory problems happen due to this.

Re: Why docs don't get updated very often Re: asciitilde binding

2001-05-30 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Lars == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lars the inset you are speaking of have no need f.ex. for the Lars multiparagraph support in InsetText. Yes, I agree. However, when this wonderful insetmbox exists, it will be very easy to switch to that :) JMarc

Re: Why docs don't get updated very often Re: asciitilde binding

2001-05-30 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Lars == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | Lars the inset you are speaking of have no need f.ex. for the | Lars multiparagraph support in InsetText. | | Yes, I agree. However, when this wonderful insetmbox exists, it will | be

Re: Why docs don't get updated very often Re: asciitilde binding bug

2001-05-30 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Mike" == <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Mike> This brought up the idea of an Errata section on Mike> the Web. At least we can collect the current inconsistencies and Mike> make them known there, so the Users don't get totally frustrated Mike> with the current situation. Note also that a

RE: Why docs don't get updated very often Re: asciitilde binding

2001-05-30 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 29-May-2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Perhaps it's time for an Errata page on the Web. Anyone with Web CVS > access willing to lead the charge? Good we have the doc-team working again ;) IMO we should really try to update the documentation a bit regarding all the new and changed stuff from

Re: Why docs don't get updated very often Re: asciitilde binding bug

2001-05-30 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | I also had a few ideas on how to simplify somewhat the documenter's | work, like an inset that displays the keybinding of a given function, | or even the menu entry corresponding to this lyxfunc. I guess this | could help getting the doc up to

Re: Why docs don't get updated very often Re: asciitilde binding bug

2001-05-30 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> Even if this inset would seemingly make things easier I do not Lars> quite agree with it. IMO the bindings are not athorative, the Lars> lyxfuns are. So the bindings can be referenced in the main text, Lars> but the main focus

Re: Why docs don't get updated very often Re: asciitilde binding bug

2001-05-30 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | Lars> Even if this inset would seemingly make things easier I do not | Lars> quite agree with it. IMO the bindings are not athorative, the | Lars> lyxfuns are. So the bindings

Re: Why docs don't get updated very often Re: asciitilde binding bug

2001-05-30 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> Sure menus are for _loosers_! The idea I had for menus was to subclass a non-editable version of insettext (does this exist) so that a small insettext (with underlines at the right place and nice menu separators and maybe

Re: Why docs don't get updated very often Re: asciitilde binding

2001-05-30 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 30-May-2001 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > The idea I had for menus was to subclass a non-editable version of > insettext (does this exist) so that a small insettext (with underlines > at the right place and nice menu separators and maybe even the sans > serif font) would be created on the

Re: Why docs don't get updated very often Re: asciitilde binding

2001-05-30 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Juergen" == Juergen Vigna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Juergen> I don't get to what exactly you need, but surely one can make Juergen> a MenuInset based on InsetText and not Editable. Doing an inset for key bindings is easy, since it will just contain plain text. For a menu, it will be

Re: Why docs don't get updated very often Re: asciitilde binding

2001-05-30 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 30-May-2001 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> "Juergen" == Juergen Vigna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Juergen> I don't get to what exactly you need, but surely one can make > Juergen> a MenuInset based on InsetText and not Editable. > > Doing an inset for key bindings is easy, since it

Re: Why docs don't get updated very often Re: asciitilde binding

2001-05-30 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Juergen" == Juergen Vigna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Juergen> Well yes this should be possible, but I still don't get what Juergen> you really want to do with it! The idea would be, in the docs, to do an M-x menuinset-insert lyx-quit and have a nice box on the screen showing

Re: Why docs don't get updated very often Re: asciitilde binding

2001-05-30 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > "Juergen" == Juergen Vigna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | Juergen> Well yes this should be possible, but I still don't get what | Juergen> you really want to do with it! | | The idea would be, in the docs, to do an | M-x

Re: Why docs don't get updated very often Re: asciitilde binding

2001-05-30 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> Won't InsetText be a bit overkill for this? Lars> This is closer to InsetLabel... For the case of a key binding, insettext is not needed (and I did not plan to use it). But if I want to do some formatting, it seems to me

Re: Why docs don't get updated very often Re: asciitilde binding

2001-05-30 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | Lars> Won't InsetText be a bit overkill for this? | | Lars> This is closer to InsetLabel... | | For the case of a key binding, insettext is not needed (and I did not | plan

Re: Why docs don't get updated very often Re: asciitilde binding

2001-05-30 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> I still think InsetText is too complex for that use. We should Lars> rather create a InsetMbox variant... Do we have an InsetMBox? JMarc

Re: Why docs don't get updated very often Re: asciitilde binding

2001-05-30 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | Lars> I still think InsetText is too complex for that use. We should | Lars> rather create a InsetMbox variant... | | Do we have an InsetMBox? No but we should perhaps create

Re: Why docs don't get updated very often Re: asciitilde binding

2001-05-30 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> No but we should perhaps create one... And what would that be exactly? More to the point, what is the problem with subclassing insettext? Just that you feel it is not right? I do not see speed or memeory problems happen due

Re: Why docs don't get updated very often Re: asciitilde binding

2001-05-30 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> the inset you are speaking of have no need f.ex. for the Lars> multiparagraph support in InsetText. Yes, I agree. However, when this wonderful insetmbox exists, it will be very easy to switch to that :) JMarc

Re: Why docs don't get updated very often Re: asciitilde binding

2001-05-30 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | Lars> the inset you are speaking of have no need f.ex. for the | Lars> multiparagraph support in InsetText. | | Yes, I agree. However, when this wonderful insetmbox exists, it

Why docs don't get updated very often Re: asciitilde binding bug

2001-05-29 Thread mike.ressler
On 29 May 2001, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Jules == Jules Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jules It's a relief someone agrees with me! Jules Yes, M-p asterisk num would seem like a sensible set of Jules bindings to me.. Would you have time to review the bindings and propose an update? [...]

Re: Why docs don't get updated very often Re: asciitilde binding bug

2001-05-29 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Mike == [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mike I'm not criticizing the decision to change these bindings - Mike improving the UI is always good, but having just seen another Mike message about needing to update the docs about --export, I need Mike to vent. In the second case, it is rather that a

Re: Why docs don't get updated very often Re: asciitilde binding bug

2001-05-29 Thread Andre Poenitz
I'm hoping that 1.2.0pre0 will freeze the basic interface/keybindings/commandline for at least a few versions; Don't trust math key bindings yet... Andre' -- André Pönitz . [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Why docs don't get updated very often Re: asciitilde binding bug

2001-05-29 Thread mike.ressler
On 29 May 2001, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Jules" == Jules Bean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Jules> It's a relief someone agrees with me! > Jules> Yes, M-p asterisk would seem like a sensible set of > Jules> bindings to me.. > Would you have time to review the bindings and propose an

Re: Why docs don't get updated very often Re: asciitilde binding bug

2001-05-29 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Mike" == <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Mike> I'm not criticizing the decision to change these bindings - Mike> improving the UI is always good, but having just seen another Mike> message about needing to update the docs about --export, I need Mike> to vent. In the second case, it is

Re: Why docs don't get updated very often Re: asciitilde binding bug

2001-05-29 Thread Andre Poenitz
> I'm hoping that 1.2.0pre0 will freeze > the basic interface/keybindings/commandline for at least a few versions; Don't trust math key bindings yet... Andre' -- André Pönitz . [EMAIL PROTECTED]