Re: export tests for beamer with TL17

[Guenter Milde]

On 2017-07-22, Kornel Benko wrote:

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> Am Freitag, 21. Juli 2017 um 15:14:33, schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes 
> 
>> Le 21/07/2017 à 15:04, Kornel Benko a écrit :
>> > Am Freitag, 21. Juli 2017 um 13:58:49, schrieb Kornel Benko 
>> > 
>> >> The working cure for this lyx-file is to insert '\usepackage{fix-cm}' 
>> >> into the preamble.

>> > Interesting we already have the feature, so it is sufficient to add module 
>> > "fix-cm".

>> It would be even better to be able to use the feature automatically. Do 
>> you know why the error triggers in this case?

> No, I don't know.

I am not 100% sure but expect it has to do with "nonstandard" font sizes:

   ... the package fix-cm also enables continuous scaling of the CM
   fonts.
   
   --- fix-cm.pdf
   
Still, fix-cm can be considered obsoleted by the lmodern package providing
scalable vector fonts compatible to CM instead of the bitmapped EC fonts.

   Be careful when using arbitrary, non-standard font sizes with
   applications that need bitmap fonts: You may end up with lots of
   possibly huge .pk files.
   
   --- fix-cm.pdf
   
Therefore, LyX should use LModern whenever the font encoding is T1 unless
a documentclass selects/requires a different font.

Günter

Re: export tests for beamer with TL17

[Kornel Benko]

Am Freitag, 21. Juli 2017 um 15:14:33, schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes 

> Le 21/07/2017 à 15:04, Kornel Benko a écrit :
> > Am Freitag, 21. Juli 2017 um 13:58:49, schrieb Kornel Benko 
> >> The working cure for this lyx-file is to insert '\usepackage{fix-cm}' into 
> >> the preamble.
> 
> > Interesting we already have the feature, so it is sufficient to add module 
> > "fix-cm".
> 
> It would be even better to be able to use the feature automatically. Do 
> you know why the error triggers in this case?
> 
> JMarc

No, I don't know.

Kornel

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Re: export tests for beamer with TL17

[Kornel Benko]

Am Samstag, 22. Juli 2017 um 18:57:51, schrieb Guenter Milde 

> On 2017-07-22, Kornel Benko wrote:
> > Am Samstag, 22. Juli 2017 um 15:08:11, schrieb Guenter Milde 
> > 
> 
> >> >> > OK, instead of \usepackage{fix-cm}
> >> >> > the entry \usepackage{lmodern}
> >> >> > works too. At least for pdflatex.
> 
> >> > But don't know, how to handle Japanese documents.
> 
> >> Nor do I. (I don't have japanese support installed)
> 
> >> What is the error message?
> >> Are they actually fixed with "fix-cm"?
> 
> > With fix-cm there is no error message, but the output is, frankly
> > speaking, shit.
> 
> Then, the tests could be added to unreliable:wrong-output.
> 
> > Without, there is the same message as in other beamer files.
> 
> And with fonts set to LModern?

No error, but still wrong output.
Do you expect _any_ latin font be able to display
Japanese chars?

> Günter

Kornel


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Re: export tests for beamer with TL17

[Guenter Milde]

On 2017-07-22, Kornel Benko wrote:
> Am Samstag, 22. Juli 2017 um 15:08:11, schrieb Guenter Milde 
> 

>> >> > OK, instead of \usepackage{fix-cm}
>> >> > the entry \usepackage{lmodern}
>> >> > works too. At least for pdflatex.

>> > But don't know, how to handle Japanese documents.

>> Nor do I. (I don't have japanese support installed)

>> What is the error message?
>> Are they actually fixed with "fix-cm"?

> With fix-cm there is no error message, but the output is, frankly
> speaking, shit.

Then, the tests could be added to unreliable:wrong-output.

> Without, there is the same message as in other beamer files.

And with fonts set to LModern?

Günter

Re: export tests for beamer with TL17

[Kornel Benko]

Am Samstag, 22. Juli 2017 um 15:08:11, schrieb Guenter Milde 

> On 2017-07-21, Kornel Benko wrote:
> 
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> 
> > Am Freitag, 21. Juli 2017 um 21:08:48, schrieb Guenter Milde 
> > 
> >> On 2017-07-21, Kornel Benko wrote:
> 
> >> > OK, instead of \usepackage{fix-cm}
> >> > the entry \usepackage{lmodern}
> >> > works too. At least for pdflatex.
> 
> >> This also cures the use of dead ugly bitmapped EC fonts auto-substituted 
> >> for
> >> the default CM because LyX sets the font encoding to T1!
> 
> >> Please change the example(s) to use Latin Modern fonts.
> >> Instead of inserting \usepackage{lmodern}, change the font settings
> >> (in the GUI or in the lyx sources).
> 
> >> Any current LaTeX distribution supporting "beamer" should also ship
> >> LModern fonts.
> 
> > Thanks, done. 
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> > But don't know, how to handle Japanese documents.
> 
> 
> Nor do I. (I don't have japanese support installed)
> 
> What is the error message?
> Are they actually fixed with "fix-cm"?

With fix-cm there is no error message, but the output is, frankly speaking, 
shit.
Without, there is the same message as in other beamer files.

> regards,
> Günter

Kornel

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Re: export tests for beamer with TL17

[Guenter Milde]

On 2017-07-21, Kornel Benko wrote:

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> Am Freitag, 21. Juli 2017 um 21:08:48, schrieb Guenter Milde 
> 
>> On 2017-07-21, Kornel Benko wrote:

>> > OK, instead of \usepackage{fix-cm}
>> > the entry \usepackage{lmodern}
>> > works too. At least for pdflatex.

>> This also cures the use of dead ugly bitmapped EC fonts auto-substituted for
>> the default CM because LyX sets the font encoding to T1!

>> Please change the example(s) to use Latin Modern fonts.
>> Instead of inserting \usepackage{lmodern}, change the font settings
>> (in the GUI or in the lyx sources).

>> Any current LaTeX distribution supporting "beamer" should also ship
>> LModern fonts.

> Thanks, done. 

Thank you.

> But don't know, how to handle Japanese documents.


Nor do I. (I don't have japanese support installed)

What is the error message?
Are they actually fixed with "fix-cm"?

regards,
Günter

Re: export tests for beamer with TL17

[Kornel Benko]

Am Freitag, 21. Juli 2017 um 21:08:48, schrieb Guenter Milde 

> On 2017-07-21, Kornel Benko wrote:
> 
> > OK, instead of \usepackage{fix-cm}
> > the entry \usepackage{lmodern}
> > works too. At least for pdflatex.
> 
> This also cures the use of dead ugly bitmapped EC fonts auto-substituted for
> the default CM because LyX sets the font encoding to T1!
> 
> Please change the example(s) to use Latin Modern fonts.
> Instead of inserting \usepackage{lmodern}, change the font settings
> (in the GUI or in the lyx sources).
> 
> Any current LaTeX distribution supporting "beamer" should also ship
> LModern fonts.
> 
> 
> Günter

Thanks, done. But don't know, how to handle Japanese documents.

Kornel

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Re: export tests for beamer with TL17

[Guenter Milde]

On 2017-07-21, Kornel Benko wrote:

> OK, instead of \usepackage{fix-cm}
> the entry \usepackage{lmodern}
> works too. At least for pdflatex.

This also cures the use of dead ugly bitmapped EC fonts auto-substituted for
the default CM because LyX sets the font encoding to T1!

Please change the example(s) to use Latin Modern fonts.
Instead of inserting \usepackage{lmodern}, change the font settings
(in the GUI or in the lyx sources).

Any current LaTeX distribution supporting "beamer" should also ship
LModern fonts.


Günter

Re: export tests for beamer with TL17

[Kornel Benko]

Am Freitag, 21. Juli 2017 um 15:48:25, schrieb Kornel Benko 
> Am Freitag, 21. Juli 2017 um 15:37:05, schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller 
> 
> > Am Freitag, den 21.07.2017, 13:58 +0200 schrieb Kornel Benko:
> > > The working cure for this lyx-file is to insert '\usepackage{fix-cm}' 
> > > into the preamble.
> > 
> > There are also other workarounds. See
> > http://texblog.net/latex-archive/latex-general/beamer-warnings/
> > 
> 
> Nice article, but does not help. (Probably I am too dumb)
> 

OK, instead of \usepackage{fix-cm}
the entry \usepackage{lmodern}
works too. At least for pdflatex.

Kornel

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Re: export tests for beamer with TL17

[Kornel Benko]

Am Freitag, 21. Juli 2017 um 15:37:05, schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller 

> Am Freitag, den 21.07.2017, 13:58 +0200 schrieb Kornel Benko:
> > The working cure for this lyx-file is to insert '\usepackage{fix-cm}' 
> > into the preamble.
> 
> There are also other workarounds. See
> http://texblog.net/latex-archive/latex-general/beamer-warnings/
> 

Nice article, but does not help. (Probably I am too dumb)

Kornel

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Re: export tests for beamer with TL17

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Freitag, den 21.07.2017, 13:58 +0200 schrieb Kornel Benko:
> The working cure for this lyx-file is to insert '\usepackage{fix-cm}' 
> into the preamble.

There are also other workarounds. See
http://texblog.net/latex-archive/latex-general/beamer-warnings/

Jürgen

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Re: export tests for beamer with TL17

[Kornel Benko]

Am Freitag, 21. Juli 2017 um 15:04:58, schrieb Kornel Benko 
> Am Freitag, 21. Juli 2017 um 13:58:49, schrieb Kornel Benko 
> > The working cure for this lyx-file is to insert '\usepackage{fix-cm}' into 
> > the preamble.
> 
> Hm, according to documentation of fix-cm, the tex source should start with
>   \RequirePackage{fix-cm}
> before \documentclass. How can that be achieved?
> We don't have any label in layouts like
>   AtStartOfPreamble
> 
> Interesting we already have the feature, so it is sufficient to add module 
> "fix-cm".
> 

Now tried with module fix-cm, but although the tex-part starts as expected, it 
does not
seem to use fix-cm.sty (according to latex log).
Moreover, it also prevents the use of \usepackage{fix-cm} later in the preamble.
So the only working case is my first try (adding to end of preamble).

Kornel

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Re: export tests for beamer with TL17

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Le 21/07/2017 à 15:04, Kornel Benko a écrit :

Am Freitag, 21. Juli 2017 um 13:58:49, schrieb Kornel Benko 

The working cure for this lyx-file is to insert '\usepackage{fix-cm}' into the 
preamble.



Interesting we already have the feature, so it is sufficient to add module 
"fix-cm".


It would be even better to be able to use the feature automatically. Do 
you know why the error triggers in this case?


JMarc

Re: export tests for beamer with TL17

[Kornel Benko]

Am Freitag, 21. Juli 2017 um 13:58:49, schrieb Kornel Benko 
> The working cure for this lyx-file is to insert '\usepackage{fix-cm}' into 
> the preamble.

Hm, according to documentation of fix-cm, the tex source should start with
\RequirePackage{fix-cm}
before \documentclass. How can that be achieved?
We don't have any label in layouts like
AtStartOfPreamble

Interesting we already have the feature, so it is sufficient to add module 
"fix-cm".

Kornel

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