Re: Anyone used Lyx on Mac OS X Mavericks

2013-10-31 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/31/13 8:28 AM, Stephan Witt wrote: Am 31.10.2013 um 14:56 schrieb James Sutherland james.sutherl...@utah.edu: I just started testing with Mavericks and haven't seen any trouble with LyX. James Sorry, slightly of topic, but… I don't want to upgrade to Mavericks because of the crippled

Re: Anyone used Lyx on Mac OS X Mavericks

2013-10-31 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/31/13 8:28 AM, Stephan Witt wrote: Am 31.10.2013 um 14:56 schrieb James Sutherland james.sutherl...@utah.edu: I just started testing with Mavericks and haven't seen any trouble with LyX. James Sorry, slightly of topic, but… I don't want to upgrade to Mavericks because of the crippled

Re: Anyone used Lyx on Mac OS X Mavericks

2013-10-31 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/31/13 8:28 AM, Stephan Witt wrote: Am 31.10.2013 um 14:56 schrieb James Sutherland : I just started testing with Mavericks and haven't seen any trouble with LyX. James Sorry, slightly of topic, but… I don't want to upgrade to Mavericks because of the

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-26 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/26/13 10:17 AM, Steve Litt wrote: On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 17:53:35 -0600 Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote: I'm not a programmer, learned many years ago that is not for me. But I did contribute, for free, to writing the help files of a commercial program for a platform now long gone

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-26 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/26/13 1:25 PM, John Coppens wrote: On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 17:53:35 -0600 Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote: But, as I wrote in news://news.gmane.org:119/l4bi37$vh$1...@ger.gmane.org, if I help by reporting bugs I find in a program, assuming that reporting is requested by developers

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-26 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/26/13 10:17 AM, Steve Litt wrote: On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 17:53:35 -0600 Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote: I'm not a programmer, learned many years ago that is not for me. But I did contribute, for free, to writing the help files of a commercial program for a platform now long gone

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-26 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/26/13 1:25 PM, John Coppens wrote: On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 17:53:35 -0600 Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote: But, as I wrote in news://news.gmane.org:119/l4bi37$vh$1...@ger.gmane.org, if I help by reporting bugs I find in a program, assuming that reporting is requested by developers

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-26 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/26/13 10:17 AM, Steve Litt wrote: On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 17:53:35 -0600 Ken Springer <snowsh...@q.com> wrote: I'm not a programmer, learned many years ago that is not for me. But I did contribute, for free, to writing the help files of a commercial program for a platform now lon

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-26 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/26/13 1:25 PM, John Coppens wrote: On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 17:53:35 -0600 Ken Springer <snowsh...@q.com> wrote: But, as I wrote in news://news.gmane.org:119/l4bi37$vh$1...@ger.gmane.org, if I help by reporting bugs I find in a program, assuming that reporting is requested by deve

Re: Mavericks troubles

2013-10-25 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/25/13 2:52 AM, Scott Kostyshak wrote: On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 4:45 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org wrote: 25/10/2013 10:13, Scott Kostyshak: ... except that, for a Mac user, doing that requires to find the lyx binary. From the top of my head, it is at

Re: Mavericks troubles

2013-10-25 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/25/13 2:52 AM, Scott Kostyshak wrote: On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 4:45 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org wrote: 25/10/2013 10:13, Scott Kostyshak: ... except that, for a Mac user, doing that requires to find the lyx binary. From the top of my head, it is at

Re: Mavericks troubles

2013-10-25 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/25/13 2:52 AM, Scott Kostyshak wrote: On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 4:45 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: 25/10/2013 10:13, Scott Kostyshak: ... except that, for a Mac user, doing that requires to find the lyx binary. From the top of my head, it is at

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-24 Thread Ken Springer
Hi, Jürgen, Interspersed reply... On 10/24/13 1:01 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: 2013/10/24 Ken Springe Not professional ? Right, don't use it then. Not sure how you feel, so no reply. He's serious, and so am I: if you want professional software and think LyX is not

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-24 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/24/13 4:38 AM, Steve Litt wrote: On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 18:31:48 -0600 Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote: On 10/23/13 2:31 PM, Richard Talley wrote: Interesting comments. I too have found small vendors to be much more helpful. Often the developers help with or even do all of the tech

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-24 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/24/13 9:03 AM, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com mailto:snowsh...@q.com wrote: Hi, Jürgen, Interspersed reply... On 10/24/13 1:01 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: 2013/10/24 Ken Springe

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-24 Thread Ken Springer
-source projects have you created or at least been an active developer in? On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com mailto:snowsh...@q.com wrote: I do, but that's no excuse for being nonprofessional in what you are trying to do. Adding features while ignoring bugs

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-24 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/24/13 11:35 AM, Walter van Holst wrote: On 24/10/2013 07:32, Richard Talley wrote: I've read good things about Scrivener. It's more a 'book project management' program than a word processor. I know some people use it for everything until it's time to print, then they export to LaTeX. Good

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-24 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/24/13 5:13 PM, Bryan Baldwin wrote: On 10/25/2013 05:32 AM, Ken Springer wrote: snip We know your argument. Seriously, We've heard it everywhere all the time...end-less-ly. Everybody wishes that their software was robust with magic documentation and free specialists that will fix your

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-24 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/24/13 12:55 PM, Richard Talley wrote: On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com mailto:snowsh...@q.com wrote: I can't speak for Rich, but it was not my intent to leave an impression of mass exodus. Just my pulling back from the potential promise I saw

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-24 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/24/13 8:32 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: 24/10/2013 15:59, Ken Springer: There is also the segment of the open source area where they actively ask you to file bugs that can be fixed. Then the bugs just sit there, never getting fixed. If you aren't going to actively fix the bugs

Re: Getting Support: was: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-24 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/24/13 1:27 PM, Steve Litt wrote: On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 10:32:55 -0600 Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote: Product support, customer service, in general, sucks. Online, offline, commercial, open source, just about everywhere. For software these days, you are supposed to join a forum

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-24 Thread Ken Springer
Hi, Jürgen, Interspersed reply... On 10/24/13 1:01 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: 2013/10/24 Ken Springe Not professional ? Right, don't use it then. Not sure how you feel, so no reply. He's serious, and so am I: if you want professional software and think LyX is not

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-24 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/24/13 4:38 AM, Steve Litt wrote: On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 18:31:48 -0600 Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote: On 10/23/13 2:31 PM, Richard Talley wrote: Interesting comments. I too have found small vendors to be much more helpful. Often the developers help with or even do all of the tech

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-24 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/24/13 9:03 AM, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com mailto:snowsh...@q.com wrote: Hi, Jürgen, Interspersed reply... On 10/24/13 1:01 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: 2013/10/24 Ken Springe

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-24 Thread Ken Springer
-source projects have you created or at least been an active developer in? On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com mailto:snowsh...@q.com wrote: I do, but that's no excuse for being nonprofessional in what you are trying to do. Adding features while ignoring bugs

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-24 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/24/13 11:35 AM, Walter van Holst wrote: On 24/10/2013 07:32, Richard Talley wrote: I've read good things about Scrivener. It's more a 'book project management' program than a word processor. I know some people use it for everything until it's time to print, then they export to LaTeX. Good

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-24 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/24/13 5:13 PM, Bryan Baldwin wrote: On 10/25/2013 05:32 AM, Ken Springer wrote: snip We know your argument. Seriously, We've heard it everywhere all the time...end-less-ly. Everybody wishes that their software was robust with magic documentation and free specialists that will fix your

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-24 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/24/13 12:55 PM, Richard Talley wrote: On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com mailto:snowsh...@q.com wrote: I can't speak for Rich, but it was not my intent to leave an impression of mass exodus. Just my pulling back from the potential promise I saw

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-24 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/24/13 8:32 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: 24/10/2013 15:59, Ken Springer: There is also the segment of the open source area where they actively ask you to file bugs that can be fixed. Then the bugs just sit there, never getting fixed. If you aren't going to actively fix the bugs

Re: Getting Support: was: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-24 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/24/13 1:27 PM, Steve Litt wrote: On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 10:32:55 -0600 Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote: Product support, customer service, in general, sucks. Online, offline, commercial, open source, just about everywhere. For software these days, you are supposed to join a forum

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-24 Thread Ken Springer
Hi, Jürgen, Interspersed reply... On 10/24/13 1:01 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: 2013/10/24 Ken Springe Not professional ? Right, don't use it then. Not sure how you feel, so no reply. He's serious, and so am I: if you want "professional" software and think LyX is not

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-24 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/24/13 4:38 AM, Steve Litt wrote: On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 18:31:48 -0600 Ken Springer <snowsh...@q.com> wrote: On 10/23/13 2:31 PM, Richard Talley wrote: Interesting comments. I too have found small vendors to be much more helpful. Often the developers help with or even do all of th

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-24 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/24/13 9:03 AM, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Ken Springer <snowsh...@q.com <mailto:snowsh...@q.com>> wrote: Hi, Jürgen, Interspersed reply... On 10/24/13 1:01 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: 2013/10/24

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-24 Thread Ken Springer
-source projects have you created or at least been an active developer in? On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Ken Springer <snowsh...@q.com <mailto:snowsh...@q.com>> wrote: I do, but that's no excuse for being nonprofessional in what you are trying to do. Adding features while i

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-24 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/24/13 11:35 AM, Walter van Holst wrote: On 24/10/2013 07:32, Richard Talley wrote: I've read good things about Scrivener. It's more a 'book project management' program than a word processor. I know some people use it for everything until it's time to print, then they export to LaTeX. Good

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-24 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/24/13 5:13 PM, Bryan Baldwin wrote: On 10/25/2013 05:32 AM, Ken Springer wrote: We know your argument. Seriously, We've heard it everywhere all the time...end-less-ly. Everybody wishes that their software was robust with magic documentation and free specialists that will fix your

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-24 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/24/13 12:55 PM, Richard Talley wrote: On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Ken Springer <snowsh...@q.com <mailto:snowsh...@q.com>> wrote: I can't speak for Rich, but it was not my intent to leave an impression of "mass exodus". Just my pulling back from the

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-24 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/24/13 8:32 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: 24/10/2013 15:59, Ken Springer: There is also the segment of the open source area where they actively ask you to file bugs that can be fixed. Then the bugs just sit there, never getting fixed. If you aren't going to actively fix the bugs

Re: Getting Support: was: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-24 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/24/13 1:27 PM, Steve Litt wrote: On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 10:32:55 -0600 Ken Springer <snowsh...@q.com> wrote: Product support, customer service, in general, sucks. Online, offline, commercial, open source, just about everywhere. For software these days, you are supposed to join a

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-23 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/22/13 10:19 PM, Richard Talley wrote: I originally picked up on LyX because I needed to produce some technical manuals quickly that looked good to management and that didn't make me deal with the WYSIWYG nightmares of Word and its ilk. LyX really came through for me. Now I'm helping a

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-23 Thread Ken Springer
source software in the way of bug fixes. On 10/23/13 10:50 AM, Ernesto Posse wrote: You do understand that a lot of open-source software, including LyX, is developed by *volunteers*, do you? On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com mailto:snowsh...@q.com wrote: On 10/22

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-23 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/23/13 11:24 AM, David L. Johnson wrote: On 10/23/2013 12:33 PM, Ken Springer wrote: The program I filed the bugs with is one that wishes to take on a commercial program in the marketplace. And they add new features, some of which are inevitable buggy. But the attitude exhibited

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-23 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/23/13 12:42 PM, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: Ken Springer schreef op 23-10-2013 19:41: I do, but that's no excuse for being nonprofessional in what you are trying to do. Adding features while ignoring bugs is nonprofessional. Not professional ? Right, don't use it then. Not sure how

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-23 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/23/13 10:34 AM, Les Denham wrote: On Tue, 22 Oct 2013 22:19:38 -0600 Richard Talley rich.tal...@gmail.com wrote: Now on to the résumé. Let's see what's available. ModernCV looks good, under development for seven years. Richard, That's what I thought too. The documentation is, as you

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-23 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/23/13 2:31 PM, Richard Talley wrote: Interesting comments. I too have found small vendors to be much more helpful. Often the developers help with or even do all of the tech support at small vendors. And they actually read my emails, instead of replying with canned responses. Most of the

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-23 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/22/13 10:19 PM, Richard Talley wrote: I originally picked up on LyX because I needed to produce some technical manuals quickly that looked good to management and that didn't make me deal with the WYSIWYG nightmares of Word and its ilk. LyX really came through for me. Now I'm helping a

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-23 Thread Ken Springer
source software in the way of bug fixes. On 10/23/13 10:50 AM, Ernesto Posse wrote: You do understand that a lot of open-source software, including LyX, is developed by *volunteers*, do you? On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com mailto:snowsh...@q.com wrote: On 10/22

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-23 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/23/13 11:24 AM, David L. Johnson wrote: On 10/23/2013 12:33 PM, Ken Springer wrote: The program I filed the bugs with is one that wishes to take on a commercial program in the marketplace. And they add new features, some of which are inevitable buggy. But the attitude exhibited

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-23 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/23/13 12:42 PM, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: Ken Springer schreef op 23-10-2013 19:41: I do, but that's no excuse for being nonprofessional in what you are trying to do. Adding features while ignoring bugs is nonprofessional. Not professional ? Right, don't use it then. Not sure how

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-23 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/23/13 10:34 AM, Les Denham wrote: On Tue, 22 Oct 2013 22:19:38 -0600 Richard Talley rich.tal...@gmail.com wrote: Now on to the résumé. Let's see what's available. ModernCV looks good, under development for seven years. Richard, That's what I thought too. The documentation is, as you

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-23 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/23/13 2:31 PM, Richard Talley wrote: Interesting comments. I too have found small vendors to be much more helpful. Often the developers help with or even do all of the tech support at small vendors. And they actually read my emails, instead of replying with canned responses. Most of the

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-23 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/22/13 10:19 PM, Richard Talley wrote: I originally picked up on LyX because I needed to produce some technical manuals quickly that looked good to management and that didn't make me deal with the WYSIWYG nightmares of Word and its ilk. LyX really came through for me. Now I'm helping a

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-23 Thread Ken Springer
much from the open source software in the way of bug fixes. On 10/23/13 10:50 AM, Ernesto Posse wrote: You do understand that a lot of open-source software, including LyX, is developed by *volunteers*, do you? On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Ken Springer <snowsh...@q.com <mail

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-23 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/23/13 11:24 AM, David L. Johnson wrote: On 10/23/2013 12:33 PM, Ken Springer wrote: The program I filed the bugs with is one that wishes to take on a commercial program in the marketplace. And they add new features, some of which are inevitable buggy. But the attitude exhibited

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-23 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/23/13 12:42 PM, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: Ken Springer schreef op 23-10-2013 19:41: I do, but that's no excuse for being nonprofessional in what you are trying to do. Adding features while ignoring bugs is nonprofessional. Not professional ? Right, don't use it then. Not sure how

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-23 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/23/13 10:34 AM, Les Denham wrote: On Tue, 22 Oct 2013 22:19:38 -0600 Richard Talley wrote: Now on to the résumé. Let's see what's available. ModernCV looks good, under development for seven years. Richard, That's what I thought too. The documentation is, as you

Re: why people give up on open source software

2013-10-23 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/23/13 2:31 PM, Richard Talley wrote: Interesting comments. I too have found small vendors to be much more helpful. Often the developers help with or even do all of the tech support at small vendors. And they actually read my emails, instead of replying with canned responses. Most of the

Font tables/charts, a tad OT, IMO :-)

2013-10-13 Thread Ken Springer
My apologies if anyone is offended by this post, but I don't know another place to ask. Back in the 8-bit days, my computer actually came with an ASCII chart somewhat like this: http://www.asciitable.com/ Does anyone know where a similar, but simple, chart can be found for modern systems

Re: Font tables/charts, a tad OT, IMO :-)

2013-10-13 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/13/13 8:52 AM, stefano franchi wrote: On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com mailto:snowsh...@q.com wrote: My apologies if anyone is offended by this post, but I don't know another place to ask. Back in the 8-bit days, my computer actually came

Font tables/charts, a tad OT, IMO :-)

2013-10-13 Thread Ken Springer
My apologies if anyone is offended by this post, but I don't know another place to ask. Back in the 8-bit days, my computer actually came with an ASCII chart somewhat like this: http://www.asciitable.com/ Does anyone know where a similar, but simple, chart can be found for modern systems

Re: Font tables/charts, a tad OT, IMO :-)

2013-10-13 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/13/13 8:52 AM, stefano franchi wrote: On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com mailto:snowsh...@q.com wrote: My apologies if anyone is offended by this post, but I don't know another place to ask. Back in the 8-bit days, my computer actually came

Font tables/charts, a tad OT, IMO :-)

2013-10-13 Thread Ken Springer
My apologies if anyone is offended by this post, but I don't know another place to ask. Back in the 8-bit days, my computer actually came with an ASCII chart somewhat like this: http://www.asciitable.com/ Does anyone know where a similar, but simple, chart can be found for modern systems

Re: Font tables/charts, a tad OT, IMO :-)

2013-10-13 Thread Ken Springer
On 10/13/13 8:52 AM, stefano franchi wrote: On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Ken Springer <snowsh...@q.com <mailto:snowsh...@q.com>> wrote: My apologies if anyone is offended by this post, but I don't know another place to ask. Back in the 8-bit days, my computer a

Re: LyX installation packages, possibly OT

2013-09-09 Thread Ken Springer
I've know RTFM for years, and have often used it. You missed the point of my post, but I don't have time to explain at the moment. Work calls. :-( On 9/9/13 12:47 AM, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote: Please google what RTFM measn :-)-O el On 2013-09-07 15:12 , Ken Springer wrote: On 9/7/13 3

Re: LyX installation packages, possibly OT

2013-09-09 Thread Ken Springer
Sep 2013 06:54:39 -0600 Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com sent this: I've know RTFM for years, and have often used it. snip With the risk that I also might have missed the point. I think it was suggested that if you RTFM. Your question will be answered and there would be no need to post

Re: LyX installation packages, possibly OT

2013-09-09 Thread Ken Springer
I've know RTFM for years, and have often used it. You missed the point of my post, but I don't have time to explain at the moment. Work calls. :-( On 9/9/13 12:47 AM, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote: Please google what RTFM measn :-)-O el On 2013-09-07 15:12 , Ken Springer wrote: On 9/7/13 3

Re: LyX installation packages, possibly OT

2013-09-09 Thread Ken Springer
Sep 2013 06:54:39 -0600 Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com sent this: I've know RTFM for years, and have often used it. snip With the risk that I also might have missed the point. I think it was suggested that if you RTFM. Your question will be answered and there would be no need to post

Re: LyX installation packages, possibly OT

2013-09-09 Thread Ken Springer
I've know RTFM for years, and have often used it. You missed the point of my post, but I don't have time to explain at the moment. Work calls. :-( On 9/9/13 12:47 AM, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote: Please google what RTFM measn :-)-O el On 2013-09-07 15:12 , Ken Springer wrote: On 9/7/13 3

Re: LyX installation packages, possibly OT

2013-09-09 Thread Ken Springer
wrote: On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 06:54:39 -0600 "Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com" sent this: >I've know RTFM for years, and have often used it. With the risk that I also might have missed the point. I think it was suggested that if you RTFM. Your question will be answered and the

Re: LyX installation packages, possibly OT

2013-09-07 Thread Ken Springer
On 9/7/13 3:33 AM, Stephan Witt wrote: Am 07.09.2013 um 03:19 schrieb Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com: Having resolved my issue with the LyX installation on my Mac, I also have installed it under Windows 7. Also appears to work fine. This has left me wondering about installation packages

Re: LyX installation packages, possibly OT

2013-09-07 Thread Ken Springer
On 9/7/13 3:33 AM, Stephan Witt wrote: Am 07.09.2013 um 03:19 schrieb Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com: Having resolved my issue with the LyX installation on my Mac, I also have installed it under Windows 7. Also appears to work fine. This has left me wondering about installation packages

Re: LyX installation packages, possibly OT

2013-09-07 Thread Ken Springer
On 9/7/13 3:33 AM, Stephan Witt wrote: Am 07.09.2013 um 03:19 schrieb Ken Springer <snowsh...@q.com>: Having resolved my issue with the LyX installation on my Mac, I also have installed it under Windows 7. Also appears to work fine. This has left me wondering about installation pa

Re: New LyX install problems... apparently minor :-)

2013-09-06 Thread Ken Springer
snip My apologies to everyone, I screwed up. I had installed and then uninstalled LyX once before, just for a quick look at the LyX window. But didn't use it. But I had downloaded MetaTeX, but I don't remember if A) I didn't install it then, or B) I installed it and then uninstalled it at

LyX installation packages, possibly OT

2013-09-06 Thread Ken Springer
Having resolved my issue with the LyX installation on my Mac, I also have installed it under Windows 7. Also appears to work fine. This has left me wondering about installation packages for different OS's. Why is it, that if it's a Windows program, if a supporting program is needed to make

Re: New LyX install problems... apparently minor :-)

2013-09-06 Thread Ken Springer
snip My apologies to everyone, I screwed up. I had installed and then uninstalled LyX once before, just for a quick look at the LyX window. But didn't use it. But I had downloaded MetaTeX, but I don't remember if A) I didn't install it then, or B) I installed it and then uninstalled it at

LyX installation packages, possibly OT

2013-09-06 Thread Ken Springer
Having resolved my issue with the LyX installation on my Mac, I also have installed it under Windows 7. Also appears to work fine. This has left me wondering about installation packages for different OS's. Why is it, that if it's a Windows program, if a supporting program is needed to make

Re: New LyX install problems... apparently minor :-)

2013-09-06 Thread Ken Springer
My apologies to everyone, I screwed up. I had installed and then uninstalled LyX once before, just for a quick look at the LyX window. But didn't use it. But I had downloaded MetaTeX, but I don't remember if A) I didn't install it then, or B) I installed it and then uninstalled it at the

LyX installation packages, possibly OT

2013-09-06 Thread Ken Springer
Having resolved my issue with the LyX installation on my Mac, I also have installed it under Windows 7. Also appears to work fine. This has left me wondering about installation packages for different OS's. Why is it, that if it's a Windows program, if a supporting program is needed to make

New LyX install problems... apparently minor :-)

2013-09-04 Thread Ken Springer
From http://www.lyx.org/Download, I downloaded ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/2.0.6/LyX-2.0.6+qt4.dmg and used the MacTeX link to download MacTeX. Installation of both went without a problem. I'm running OS X 10.8.4 but the Gatekeeper wasn't a problem, although the web site says it may be.

Re: New LyX install problems... apparently minor :-)

2013-09-04 Thread Ken Springer
you try going to LyX Reconfigure and then restart LyX? Do you get the same message? Scott On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote: From http://www.lyx.org/Download, I downloaded ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/2.0.6/LyX-2.0.6+qt4.dmg and used the MacTeX link to download

New LyX install problems... apparently minor :-)

2013-09-04 Thread Ken Springer
From http://www.lyx.org/Download, I downloaded ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/2.0.6/LyX-2.0.6+qt4.dmg and used the MacTeX link to download MacTeX. Installation of both went without a problem. I'm running OS X 10.8.4 but the Gatekeeper wasn't a problem, although the web site says it may be.

Re: New LyX install problems... apparently minor :-)

2013-09-04 Thread Ken Springer
you try going to LyX Reconfigure and then restart LyX? Do you get the same message? Scott On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote: From http://www.lyx.org/Download, I downloaded ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/2.0.6/LyX-2.0.6+qt4.dmg and used the MacTeX link to download

New LyX install problems... apparently minor :-)

2013-09-04 Thread Ken Springer
From http://www.lyx.org/Download, I downloaded ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/2.0.6/LyX-2.0.6+qt4.dmg and used the MacTeX link to download MacTeX. Installation of both went without a problem. I'm running OS X 10.8.4 but the Gatekeeper wasn't a problem, although the web site says it may be.

Re: New LyX install problems... apparently minor :-)

2013-09-04 Thread Ken Springer
you try going to LyX > Reconfigure and then restart LyX? Do you get the same message? Scott On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Ken Springer <snowsh...@q.com> wrote: From http://www.lyx.org/Download, I downloaded ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/2.0.6/LyX-2.0.6+qt4.dmg and used the Ma

Re: Question #3: LyX and LaTeX and TeX

2013-09-01 Thread Ken Springer
On 9/1/13 11:06 AM, Steve Litt wrote: On Sun, 1 Sep 2013 08:29:23 +0200 Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote: snip It sounds as if Lyx/LaTeX has a higher learning curve than I was hoping for. But it intrigues me. :-) I've got some simple help documents I want to create, and I want

Re: Question #3: LyX and LaTeX and TeX

2013-09-01 Thread Ken Springer
On 9/1/13 11:06 AM, Steve Litt wrote: On Sun, 1 Sep 2013 08:29:23 +0200 Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote: snip It sounds as if Lyx/LaTeX has a higher learning curve than I was hoping for. But it intrigues me. :-) I've got some simple help documents I want to create, and I want

Re: Question #3: LyX and LaTeX and TeX

2013-09-01 Thread Ken Springer
On 9/1/13 11:06 AM, Steve Litt wrote: On Sun, 1 Sep 2013 08:29:23 +0200 Liviu Andronic wrote: It sounds as if Lyx/LaTeX has a higher learning curve than I was hoping for. But it intrigues me. :-) I've got some simple help documents I want to create, and I want

Question #3: LyX and LaTeX and TeX

2013-08-31 Thread Ken Springer
First, another thanks for all the replies to my thread about using LyX as a word processor. In reading some of those replies, I'm left wondering a bit about LyX and LaTeX and their relationship. As well as TeX, for that matter. When I was really into learning a bit about desktop publishing,

Question #3: LyX and LaTeX and TeX

2013-08-31 Thread Ken Springer
First, another thanks for all the replies to my thread about using LyX as a word processor. In reading some of those replies, I'm left wondering a bit about LyX and LaTeX and their relationship. As well as TeX, for that matter. When I was really into learning a bit about desktop publishing,

Question #3: LyX and LaTeX and TeX

2013-08-31 Thread Ken Springer
First, another thanks for all the replies to my thread about using LyX as a word processor. In reading some of those replies, I'm left wondering a bit about LyX and LaTeX and their relationship. As well as TeX, for that matter. When I was really into learning a bit about desktop publishing,

Re: Question #2: Printed results from LyX

2013-08-30 Thread Ken Springer
On 8/30/13 12:23 AM, Stephen George wrote: On 30/08/2013 1:49 PM, Ken Springer wrote: On 8/29/13 8:08 PM, Steve Litt wrote: When doing stochastic screening, the ideal is to screen at the same dpi as the final printing device. Next best is an even multiple. I.E. screen at 300 dpi for printing

Re: Question #2: Printed results from LyX

2013-08-30 Thread Ken Springer
On 8/30/13 8:25 AM, Richard Heck wrote: On 08/29/2013 08:41 PM, Ken Springer wrote: On 8/29/13 8:19 AM, Richard Heck wrote: On 08/29/2013 03:59 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 3:28 AM, Ken Springersnowsh...@q.com wrote: Much like the speakers in a sound system, it occurs

Re: Question #2: Printed results from LyX

2013-08-30 Thread Ken Springer
On 8/30/13 8:22 AM, Richard Heck wrote: On 08/29/2013 08:38 PM, Ken Springer wrote: On 8/29/13 1:59 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 3:28 AM, Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote: Much like the speakers in a sound system, it occurs to me the actual quality of the printed output

Re: Question #2: Printed results from LyX

2013-08-30 Thread Ken Springer
On 8/30/13 12:23 AM, Stephen George wrote: On 30/08/2013 1:49 PM, Ken Springer wrote: On 8/29/13 8:08 PM, Steve Litt wrote: When doing stochastic screening, the ideal is to screen at the same dpi as the final printing device. Next best is an even multiple. I.E. screen at 300 dpi for printing

Re: Question #2: Printed results from LyX

2013-08-30 Thread Ken Springer
On 8/30/13 8:25 AM, Richard Heck wrote: On 08/29/2013 08:41 PM, Ken Springer wrote: On 8/29/13 8:19 AM, Richard Heck wrote: On 08/29/2013 03:59 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 3:28 AM, Ken Springersnowsh...@q.com wrote: Much like the speakers in a sound system, it occurs

Re: Question #2: Printed results from LyX

2013-08-30 Thread Ken Springer
On 8/30/13 8:22 AM, Richard Heck wrote: On 08/29/2013 08:38 PM, Ken Springer wrote: On 8/29/13 1:59 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 3:28 AM, Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote: Much like the speakers in a sound system, it occurs to me the actual quality of the printed output

Re: Question #2: Printed results from LyX

2013-08-30 Thread Ken Springer
On 8/30/13 12:23 AM, Stephen George wrote: On 30/08/2013 1:49 PM, Ken Springer wrote: On 8/29/13 8:08 PM, Steve Litt wrote: When doing stochastic screening, the ideal is to screen at the same dpi as the final printing device. Next best is an even multiple. I.E. screen at 300 dpi for printing

Re: Question #2: Printed results from LyX

2013-08-30 Thread Ken Springer
On 8/30/13 8:25 AM, Richard Heck wrote: On 08/29/2013 08:41 PM, Ken Springer wrote: On 8/29/13 8:19 AM, Richard Heck wrote: On 08/29/2013 03:59 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 3:28 AM, Ken Springer<snowsh...@q.com> wrote: Much like the speakers in a sound system, it

Re: Question #2: Printed results from LyX

2013-08-30 Thread Ken Springer
On 8/30/13 8:22 AM, Richard Heck wrote: On 08/29/2013 08:38 PM, Ken Springer wrote: On 8/29/13 1:59 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 3:28 AM, Ken Springer <snowsh...@q.com> wrote: Much like the speakers in a sound system, it occurs to me the actual quality of the p

Re: Question #2: Printed results from LyX

2013-08-29 Thread Ken Springer
On 8/29/13 1:59 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 3:28 AM, Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote: Much like the speakers in a sound system, it occurs to me the actual quality of the printed output from a LyX document will depend on the quality of the printer being used. Right

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